Intentional Feeding Epidemic?

Subdue·Jul 28, 2017·20 votes·1,067 views

When I look across these boards, especially the Player Behavior board, I get the sense that there is some sort of Intentional Feeding epidemic going on. But when I look back across my own experience, I might have had one intentional feeder in the last 50+ games. I've had a lot of players who played poorly of course, but very few that I got the sense were trying to lose the game.

Do you think this is an issue of perception - some people try to label anyone who doesn't do well as an intentional feeder?
Do you think the people who are experiencing this epidemic of feeders are causing the problem, such as by being so toxic as to make teammates who otherwise wouldn't want to lose, want to lose?

20 Comments

HalcyonDwellerJul 28, 20172 votes

You've probably hit the nail on the head with this.

Also important to note is that the playerbase is huge, and your average player will not usually turn to the boards until they have something to complain about. So you will see a disproportionate amount of complaints here, accurate or not. It's definitely not widespread or an actual epidemic, more an issue of sample size and what you see here.

It may be true that a large % of the complaints on the player behavior boards are related to int-feeding, but that is as far as it can be taken. It is only with respect to the total number of posts on the player behavior boards, rather than with respect to the total number of games played or players in the playerbase.

SiytherJul 28, 20171 votes

ppl def label bad games as int. i mean it clear when someone is int'ing and just bad.

leaugesbaneJul 29, 20171 votes

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ppl def label bad games as int. i mean it clear when someone is int'ing and just bad.

its why I'm not playing anymore I don't have a big enough champion pull and I get stuck with sub par match ups as a result. I got called inting by trolls so much I had to throw my hands up.

when you tax a lane you aren't helping AND they are behind wtf do you think is gonna happen? feeding happens they cant do anything even if they are under the turret and when you play in such a way the shows you have clearly no intent of playing with your teammate why should they help you when you need it? you didn't help them. you in some cases have even fucked them over on top on refusing to help them. why would they think you're an ally in the situation?

scazzmanJul 29, 20171 votes

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ppl def label bad games as int. i mean it clear when someone is int'ing and just bad.

its actually not always clear. smart intentional feeders will often try to disguise their feeding by pretending to just be playing poorly

ChermorgJul 28, 20171 votes

I think it's mostly the first reason you give. Many players simply can't accept they were part of the reason for that loss, so label anyone with a negative aggie an intentional feeder to make themselves feel better.

AuraCreedJul 28, 20171 votes

It probably seems that way since people only tend to come to the boards when there's something to complain about, though there are times when this is genuine and not just baseless complaining.

You do bring up an interesting point about how it COULD seem that way due to the nature of people playing the blame game - I definitely see it, though I couldn't say in which direction this issue primarily lies as both have occurred at some point. I don't have the data to really make a judgement on it, but the idea is great for discussion.

Trashy McGarbageJul 28, 20171 votes

I've run into quite a few who run it down mid, but the thing is that that particular behavior is actually super easy for Riot to catch, and it will catch you a ban faster than anything. You may not have run into many simply either by luck, or because they're getting banned.

Glory97Jul 28, 20171 votes

No its just a one-dimensional perspective. Those who don't have intentional feeder don't even bother to make a post on the boards. So you only see the complains but don't meassure them against the ammount of players playing games without intentional feeders. In my games there are very little intentional feeders, maybe 1 in a 500. (And intentional feed is of course not that toplaner who went 0/6 because he got camped, i'm only counting those who run down mid buying 6 times boots)

zPOOPzJul 28, 20171 votes

I just don't understand the 6 boots thing. If you're going to troll and int, at least be a smart int-er and buy 10% MS items....everyone knows 6 boots don't stack.

Glory97Jul 28, 20171 votes

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zPOOPzJul 28, 20171 votes

if the point is to intentionally feed, at least be efficient at it and get the maximum amount of move speed you can....nothing I hate more than a troll that is also an idiot!

[zombie-nunu-tears]

BigBellBruteJul 29, 20171 votes

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I just don't understand the 6 boots thing. If you're going to troll and int, at least be a smart int-er and buy 10% MS items....everyone knows 6 boots don't stack.

If I'm playing Elise, I need a boot for each leg.

zPOOPzJul 29, 20171 votes

Touche

SubdueJul 29, 20172 votes

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If I'm playing Elise, I need a boot for each leg.

Then you'd need 4 boots, not 6. They come in pairs.

On a more serious note, the point of #2 isn't that being verbally toxic is an excuse for someone to intentionally feed, but rather, that being verbally toxic /causes/ people to intentionally feed.

BigBellBruteJul 29, 20171 votes

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Then you'd need 4 boots, not 6. They come in pairs.

On a more serious note, the point of #2 isn't that being verbally toxic is an excuse for someone to intentionally feed, but rather, that being verbally toxic /causes/ people to intentionally feed.

I'm Elise Imelda Marcos. I need a unique boot for each leg. Elise, like some spiders, have adapted their front two legs for purposes other than walking. So I only need 6. After all, how can she sink that claw if there's a boot on it?

ahferroin7Jul 28, 20171 votes

It's also the fact that there is a reasonably prevalent lack of understanding of the difference between having a bad game, not being good, and intentionally feeding.

Jeanne fan clubJul 29, 20171 votes

no, there are many posts with screenshots of a guys op.gg who has inted 15+ games in a row. Riot doesn't ban these people for some unknown reason, yet they will ban someone over 2 games of toxicity.
There is no excuse for inting or trolling, Even if someone is being toxic to them. One is just words, the other is an action, and actions are 100x more severe than just words

HarrisonOwnsJul 29, 20171 votes

Nothing will be done about it unless they say naughty words.

Scary DoorJul 29, 20171 votes

While I wouldn't call it an "epidemic", there is no question that intentional feeding has occurred with greater frequency this season as opposed to Seasons 1 and 2. Looking at my match history and browsing back about 50 games I can see 4 where someone CLEARLY intentionally fed and another 2 that are cases where someone got pissed and just ran into the enemy team but only did it once. So even at the lower estimate that's still 8% of the 50 game sample I've taken. That's pretty insane if you think about it.

Sure, over the course of 500 games it's unlike that such a high percentage would continue, but I do know that intentional feeding was one of those things I used to only see a couple of times in an entire season in 2011-2013. Now, it's a couple of times per month, maybe more.