So Riot support is called "zen desk"

KORGtuners·Oct 9, 2016·3 votes·893 views

Can anyone provide a Zen teaching that encourages censorship or punishment?

25 Comments

Deep Terror NamiOct 9, 20167 votes

Zendesk is the platform they use, it's got nothing to do with them. Also, I see the only posts you've made for the past year are about not punishing toxic behavior. If they didn't do it, it'd be much more common; if you don't like that they punish for it you can follow their simple rules of not being a jerk, or not play :3

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

Zendesk is the platform they use, it's got nothing to do with them

Ever hear of blood diamonds? (yes it is an escalation, yes it is still a valid analogy)

Also, I see the only posts you've made for the past year are about not punishing toxic behavior. If they didn't do it, it'd be much more common

Oh no! Someone might say something offensive over the internet.

if you don't like that they punish for it you can follow their simple rules of not being a jerk, or not play :3

So if I follow the rules Riot won't punish other players? I had no idea. I'll do either one or even both if it means no one ever gets punished.

DrCyanideOct 9, 20161 votes

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Ever hear of blood diamonds? (yes it is an escalation, yes it is still a valid analogy)

What do blood diamonds have to do with using software that fits your needs? Are you going to complain that they use "Windows" but aren't transparent as you'd like next?

KORGtunersOct 9, 20161 votes

Blood diamonds have nothing to do with software. (I don't think)

The analogy is claiming that a company you are actively supporting has nothing to do with yourself.

Need another example?

If I use Google; am I not a googler?

DrCyanideOct 9, 20162 votes

Need another example?

If I use Google; am I not a googler?

If you use Chrome, are you Chrome? If you use League of Legends, are you a League of Legends? If you use Apple products, are you an Apple product? If you eat a banana, are you a banana? If you listen to Bare Naked Ladies, are you a bare naked lady?

We consume things all the time without being labeled by them, and without necessarily agreeing with all the implications of their name being applied to ourselves.

To quote Shakespeare, A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. Riot would likely use ZenDesk regardless of their name, as they're an established company with a good product. Unless Zen teachings are baked into the ZenDesk product, it doesn't make sense to assume that Riot picked it for any "zen" reasons.

KORGtunersOct 9, 20161 votes

If you use Chrome, are you Chrome? If you use League of Legends, are you a League of Legends? If you use Apple products, are you an Apple product? If you eat a banana, are you a banana? If you listen to Bare Naked Ladies, are you a bare naked lady?

Basically, yes to all of those things. You always have a choice. When you choose, you become a part of that chosen community. Whether you are ignorant of all the implications or not, you are a part of that community. Possession of stolen goods is a crime, regardless if you personally stole.

Ironically, you are arguing the meaning of words is subjective. Which would mean punishing people for the use of words is illogical. Or do you agree and just want to punish people for the sake of punishing people?

Unless Zen teachings are baked into the ZenDesk product, it doesn't make sense to assume that Riot picked it for any "zen" reasons.

You are making assumptions. No one else. Why zendesk chose it's name; why Riot chose zendesk; is all irrelevant. It is ironic that Riot uses a product called zendesk to do non Zen things.

MagicFlyingLlamaOct 9, 20163 votes

Zendesk is a company that provides web support for a large number of games and programs.

Troll ArmadaOct 9, 20163 votes

lol.

it's a common app lots of companies use. Just be thankful they aren't 'crowdsourcing' like google or apple support

KORGtunersOct 9, 20163 votes

Have an upvote. I am assuming you understood the irony since you laughed. Only one more comment and the prophecy is fulfilled!!!

Troll ArmadaOct 9, 20161 votes

well, actually I gotta be honest I didn't laugh until I realized I hadn't actually read your post and was replying to the title.

but u did good here

Chamuel85Oct 9, 20162 votes

Judging the name of something is not very zen.

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

Possible. How does Zen teach us to react?

Paradise ProxyOct 9, 20161 votes

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Possible. How does Zen teach us to react?

to not be a %%%% in the first place

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

Do you have a source?

That is some mind blowing circumstances.

React by preemptively reacting.

Paradise ProxyOct 9, 20161 votes

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Do you have a source?

That is some mind blowing circumstances.

React by preemptively reacting.

it's pretty obvious

get b& d00d

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

I did a Bing search for "to not be a %%%% in the first place".

I am still pretty confused.

So obviously, I am just a dumbass.

Please, for the sake of this dumbass, provide me with your source.

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

So here is what is going to happen:

I will be downvoted constantly.

No one will answer my question.

No one will even research Zen teachings.

Every single comment that says "bans are awesome" will be upvoted.

Most of the comments will focus in on bans and completely ignore censorship or any punishment that is not a ban.

Many comments will try to use my personal history to circumvent the actual subject.

EDIT: I foresee many people will not understand irony. At least, 5 comments will say "zendesk is just a name".

Paradise ProxyOct 9, 20162 votes

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So here is what is going to happen:

I will be downvoted constantly.

No one will answer my question.

No one will even research Zen teachings.

Every single comment that says "bans are awesome" will be upvoted.

Most of the comments will focus in on bans and completely ignore censorship or any punishment that is not a ban.

Many comments will try to use my personal history to circumvent the actual subject.

...

what

edit: oh did you get banned?

you deserved it.

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

Have an upvote from me.

The Red GoatOct 9, 20162 votes

Honestly the name sounds fairly on point. Last I remember, note I'm not selling this as fact, "Zen" was about things being kept in balance. As in when something goes wrong in League, either a player acts douchey or somebody's server crashes, then Riot support is there to "restore the balance" and "maintain Zen".

Now yeah we could probably do with more encouraging people to act decently as opposed to punishing them for being jerks when it comes to dealing with player behavior, but still, I think I get the sentiment behind the name.

KORGtunersOct 9, 20162 votes

I really wish you would do some research.

You admit to not knowing what Zen is, but give your opinion anyways?

Honestly, it took me less than a minute to find out. http://buddhism.about.com/od/chanandzenbuddhism/a/zen101.htm

Not once did I see the word "balance".

But good news! You fulfilled the prophecy! Thank you! Please accept this bonus factoid:

"Karma" is a mispronounced word. The actual word is "Kamma". Don't let the little red line underneath Kamma confuse you.

AstôlfoOct 9, 20161 votes

Maintain the zen of this community by getting out of it?

KORGtunersOct 9, 20163 votes

I'm not an expert. I am guessing Zen is maintained through self and not others.

Troll ArmadaOct 9, 20161 votes

however thisi s a good example of the edducation level of many cheaters.... they can press 'spacebar' to win, but not much else.

KORGtunersOct 19, 20161 votes

Time to post in a void!!!!!!

http://imgur.com/a/UkPAH

I'm sure it is just a coincidence this image is used by Riot. A coincidence that the avatar is wearing colors commonly associated with Buddhist monks. A coincidence that the avatar has a shaved head, just like a Buddhist monk. Just a coincidence that the avatar is a happy chubby person, which is commonly used to depict the Buddha.

Everyone is right. No religious themes anywhere. Just coincidences.