Is Riot ever going to admit that permenant bans don't solve toxicity

Hallbuster·Jun 27, 2017·1 votes·518 views

Coming from a player with no ban history or toxic behavior, I do not believe Riot should allow ANY kind of toxicity in their game. That being said, I also do not feel that permenant bans are not the right ways to address this, as it creates additional problems, mostly smurfing. Players obtain smurfs by doing two things, making them or buying them. Smurfs who made a separate account will use that one account to do whatever they want without reccupasation. While players that buy them create an illegal market that floods the servers with bots, making game modes next to unplayable, aka twisted treeline.

Instead of punishing toxic players for bad behavior we need to reward them for being good. Players who don't AFK / flame / troll in 20 or more games should be eligible for temporary ip boosts or additional hextech boxes.

15 Comments

TrulyBlandJun 27, 20173 votes

Of course permanent bans aren't a good solution, hence why Riot uses them as a last resort when it's statistically speaking certain that the individual won't reform. If Riot thought permabans "solved" toxicity, they wouldn't issue chat restrictions and two-week bans. They also wouldn't have reworked the honor system; or even introduced it in the first place.

Permabans are the bottom line. They are the maximum inconvenience that Riot can sensibly impose, which at that point is purely used as a deterrent to even play the game. Permabans are the go-to method of dealing with whoever cannot be dealt with by any other means, and as such they're not meant to be a solution. They are there to mitigate damage when no solution was found.

This Is Your DadJun 27, 20171 votes

They need to crack down on that botting system with the co op vs ai so I can have a serious game of ranked in silver 3, which is where they all start.

QuephaJun 27, 20172 votes

Solving toxicity is impossible, the goal is to reduce it as much as possible.

KrigjerJun 27, 20171 votes

Instead of punishing toxic players for bad behavior we need to reward them for being good. Players who don't AFK / flame / troll in 20 or more games should be eligible for temporary ip boosts or additional hextech boxes.

They tried this with icons and mystery skins if you were a player with an account in good standing. It proved ineffective for people that already misbehave, and was just an extra reward for people that already followed TOS.

Jo0oJun 27, 20171 votes

In addition to the good points that the other two have made already, the new honor system is going to give us special honor chests.

leaugesbaneJun 28, 20171 votes

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In addition to the good points that the other two have made already, the new honor system is going to give us special honor chests.

its also going to get players perma bans because of the reporting for lulz youtube comments have had far to many posts saying just that.

that's not even hitting on kayne the diablo 3 rip off from blizzard

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

Youtube comments are reputable?

I've never seen an unsubstantiated ban in my life. I'll believe that when I see it.

leaugesbaneJun 28, 20171 votes

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Youtube comments are reputable?

I've never seen an unsubstantiated ban in my life. I'll believe that when I see it.

dpeneds on wiether or not you live in a fantise world or not. I got sivler 5 in 30 games with jungle mundo. last I checked that's a garabge pick which means I have a good eye. also since when has anything instantly been reputable? do you never verify your sources? have you seen what cnn senpai is doing now because of the fake news they let out? I personally got called crazy because I warned people about them and msnbc during this last election cycle they called me crazy and insane and did exactly what you are trying to do here. don't worry time has a bad habit of proving me right. a really bad habit it cant kick.

for every 1 time I am wrong there are 5 times I nailed it easily.

Jo0oJun 28, 20171 votes

You lost me.

ScantyXKneesocksJun 27, 20171 votes

They're really leaving it to the players. Mostly the toxic ones. To realize that they are getting angry over a video game. I can see a few employees of theirs laughing at how mad some people get

This Is Your DadJun 27, 20171 votes

With the stupid botting accounts permabans mean nothing. I just get stuck here in silver 3 with all the toxic smurfs joining ranked again to buy 6 tears and run it down mid if someone pings them 1 time.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 27, 20171 votes

riot can only be reactionary to behavior they cant stop or police it from happening....

people who break the rules needs to be banned.

its not riots fault they are toxic nor the actions of others.

it comes from people being immature jackasses and think cuz its on the internet its ok

HexaDecimelJun 28, 20171 votes

You may want to have a look at the new Honor system. Rewards players for being honorable regardless of whether or not they win.

ModPrandineJun 28, 2017

While there needs to be meaningful rewards for those that behave, there also needs to be meaningful consequences for those that misbehave.

leaugesbaneJun 28, 20171 votes

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While there needs to be meaningful rewards for those that behave, there also needs to be meaningful consequences for those that misbehave.

riot is to incompetent the op nailed it. they have created a toxic report report culture where players are admitting to harassing players having bad games. you know the honor rework bullshit they are pushing? read the youtube comments. people will be reporting for the lulz no matter what you do because of the dishonor mark.

riot is wrong and has been. riot made there community toxic. the op again nailed it.