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Riot Needs to Get Real with this permaban stuff

LesserPro·12/26/2016, 4:50:28 AM·3 votes·822 views

Ok so I'm going to be straight up honest, ya I'm toxic and will leave games if it is a lost cause. But after spending at least $500 and the time put in and then getting permabaned is a real piss off. I have played other mobas and I can honestly say none has more hate for the creator than league.

But they need a new system. Lets look at Dota 2 for example if you leave a ranked game your team gets bonus gold and ex to make up for it and you automatically lose mmr (LP) . if you continue to leave games or are toxic (Ranked or unranked) you will be sent to low priority. For those who don't know low priority is where you are forced to play with other players who leave games and are toxic. The only way to get out is to win 3-5 games. So you actually have to learn to work with your team and it makes you a better player.

Permabanning people is not the solution. All you do is get hate from the community and you look like a**es. I can honestly say I have never seen anyone permabanned in Dota 2 before and in league it is like every other person has been permabanned. All your doing when you permaban someone is making them hate you and they will repeat the cycle. Ya you still get trolls in games but no where near the frequency that league has. Once you permaban someone they have nothing left so whats stopping them from making a new account and just trolling for fun. they have nothing left to lose.

9 Comments

Horse Grenades12/26/2016, 7:49:42 PM4 votes

If you get permabanned they want you to leave and not play their game

ModPrandine12/26/2016, 8:12:11 PM2 votes

I see where you're coming from and I disagree for a few reasons.

From the sounds of it what DOTA2 does is essentially Prisoner's Island, something that Riot has said numerous times in the past that they will never do.
Permabanning someone may not be the perfect solution, but it sure beats allowing them to continue to play and ruin more games on their account. Besides, in order to even reach permaban status one has to go through at least 35-games of chat restrictions+ a 2 week ban under normal circumstances (just a 2-week ban under extreme circumstances), meaning that players are given at least 1-3 extra chances to improve their behavior for the better before they get permabanned.
By doing permabans it forces the offender to live with the consequences of their actions should they get to that point, and forces people who aren't there yet to consider what they value more: the ability to even play or the ability to just harass everyone when things get tough. With DOTA2's system since all you have to do is win X amount of games it doesn't really encourage people to reform in their behavior. Now of course the same could be said about LoL's system of reform (i.e. punishing people who act up consistently and rewarding people who behave consistently) but from what I've seen it's at least better than just lumping all poor behaving players in with each other.

With that being said though however I do like the idea of the leaver being punished while the team gets gold and xp to compensate for that. Maybe Riot could figure out a way to implement something like that into LoL in the future.

bad arcade kitty12/27/2016, 1:34:49 AM2 votes

chargeback on the gounds of bad service and losing the permanent access to the goods which you paid for

yes, riot has a much worse ban policy than valve, we can't do much with it

Nathan Du12/26/2016, 5:29:23 AM1 votes

Man i strongly agree!