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It's not Elo Hell, it's you

Pommel Knight·3/19/2017, 12:42:55 PM·7 votes·1,304 views

Recently I got bored of soloq and wanted to climb again, but was too lazy to level a new account, so I tried my hand at flex and TT. Bloody hell is it toxic as fuck.

It's not just that they are bad, which they really are, but they are allergic to any advice. If you tell someone not to buy chalice if they don't have heals or shields (this happens every single game with the silvers and golds) they will start raging at you and saying:

"STFU you noob, I know what I'm doing!"

"KYS you boosted Diamond."

"You are so toxic!"

Or if you don't play like a god on every single champion you will get so much shit thrown at you. If you outplay them or get an items that counters them (ie. Executioner) they will call you a scripted or a noob for playing an op champion.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not just bashing on lower elos, there are some plats in the rough. The main point I'm trying to make is that they don't want to listen to other people and think that they are the best and know everything. That is the wrong mindset to have, you should learn from your mistakes and try to plan out a way to not repeat the same thing in a different scenario. If you die top from a gank, don't rage at your jungler. Ward next time and be aware of the map and where the enemy jungler is. If you die 1vs1 try to see what you did wrong and how you could have played it better.

There are situations where it's not your fault, team fight or when other players feed too much. So instead of being a toxic little shit try to help them, give the adc a kill if you already have 9, tp or roam mid or bot. Help the jungler when he gets invaded in his jungle or in river. DO SOMETHING! Don't just stand in one lane alone and act so high and mighty. If someone gets ganked, the jungler must do something in other lanes. If top is getting ganked the jungler should gank mid, invade and steal his jungle cs, gank bot and get dragon. You can't just be static and afk farm in this meta, it doesn't work.

One last thing is the greed. So much greed for kills and none for objectives. Fuck the Sona, get the tower/dragon. Also if you__ are the tank/juggernaut/ tanky MF (Not Miss Fortune, pls no more) you need to tank the baron, don't chase anyone and follow the team, you are the front line, not the assassin/ mage to chase them.

You can easily get out of any league you are, just learn to accept your mistakes and improve on them. Help your team if they are having problems, stop raging at them.

17 Comments

Simply Coosh3/19/2017, 1:04:22 PM4 votes

There is some truth here, but MANY missing pieces to the argument.

I've been stuck in B4/B5 for a long time now. Sure, maybe I belong there, but like every other player, I think I don't! (Go ahead Flamers of the Forums...have your hay day with my match history and flame away...I know that's what you'll do.) I have manually tracked games, analyzed my best champions, played them and still can't seem to climb.

When you are in the B4/B5 cess pool, you encounter the same players OVER and OVER and OVER. You start to recognize names because in a prior game they must have done something so egregious that it sparked your memory. Upon starting to recognize names, I actually started a list of people that I would prefer not to play with. I keep a Notepad document open on my desktop at all times I'm playing League. When I encounter that name on my team, it gives me a little edge in decision making...I could a) dodge, b) alert the rest of the team of my experience *(this is really not the right nor the fair way to do it, but sometimes be effective in causing another player to dodge) or c) play through the game KNOWING your chances of winning just went down.

In my opinion, the best way to get better is to play against higher quality opponents and learn from them...but I don't see that possibility in trying to climb out from the cellar. So goes my League Life.

Hammermancer3/19/2017, 2:08:27 PM3 votes

it's ok bro, you go back to your gilded arches and let us bronzies stay down here and polish our bronze

I beat a g3 in lane the other day, so now nothing i do will ever be wrong again, clearly I have the pass to blame my team :D

Nah i'm joking,

but I think this is honestly true, people do the same thing over and over. I've been watching my replays and one thing i keep yelling at myself is "GROUP MORE" but in practice all it seems to do is make me pick up on how bad everyone is, start laughing a bit, but then realize how horrifying it is to have an enemy brand and a "Grouping" (I call it clumping) team... they all get really close to eachother the second brand comes.. same with zil, fiddle.

We can enjoy when people rush armor against an all ap team, not just a sunfire, I mean stacking armor HARD.

Look i'm bad, I acknowledge that bro

My team is all about as bad as me

keep them away from me

Magical Player3/19/2017, 3:03:05 PM3 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Great Muta3/19/2017, 7:51:36 PM2 votes

I got told by a player in Bronze that "gold and cs don't matter", and this person was ranked higher than me. The whole team also agreed with him. Are these really the people I should be playing with as someone who has played over a 1000 games? It's really my fault huh? LOL

I kept a list for a while of all of the various issues that went down in games in Bronze/Silver. I think it's pretty clear that trolling, AFK's and intentional feeding cost me a ton of games: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DXfqiP4cR_mF1ajdlmRmqMtyZLrE_lsGwCvvjO0uRp8/edit#gid=1180632855

There's easily 100+ games on that list that had issues. Would also be willing to bet dollars to donuts that most of those guys are still playing.

Interestingly enough, the second I started using a full Dynamic Q team, my winrate shot up to 64-70%. Is it still me? LOL

YokoNomi3/20/2017, 12:17:10 PM1 votes

I'd just finished a match where an Enemy Swain had lost his promo's fairly hard. Granted, he didn't do well in his lane, unable to outdo the heimer he'd been fighting against. But as roaming phase hit, he was the only one that could visibly sustain a build. He was smart enough to farm, to harbor enough self-clarity to realize what he should do, should such a problem like a failing lane occur. Meanwhile I'm watching a snowballing Annie insisting that she's better off roaming than farming, and a Xin and Cho'gath, who queued up for bot, forfeiting their role as either support or adc.

Is it still right to simply blame that Swain for his loss, for dealing with a team that'd rather act on brash and irrational thought than think things through beyond every step they insist on taking backwards instead? I'm sorry, but the "it's you" schtick is too vague now, and is something I'd even go so far as to view as outdated. With how League is right now, it should be very apparent that it's "You and your team". It should always be about how you improve yourself in whatever way possible, either with the champion you play, or your communicative skills with your team. But to preemptively place the blame game on every single person like that feels a little too black and white. If we're going to truly tackle the problem at large, we need to bother being as grey as the problem itself.

rujitra3/21/2017, 3:28:50 AM1 votes

There is so much truth to this statement. I just finished a game as 8/13 lethality MF because my team would not allow me to play passive botlane, katarina ganked 6 times before 15 minutes, dying 3 of them, allowing the enemy to kill me and prevent my farm because I try to help her ganks, and she wouldn't stop after I asked her to not gank anymore.

But no, any advice that isn't "great job keep doing exactly what you're doing that's challenger play right there" is seen as negative and not taking it. I'm slowly climbing out of Bronze (fell from Silver due to literal ELO hell where i was losing 29 LP per loss and winning 14 per win for some reason). These types of people won't ever climb out. And that brings me at least some happiness that I try to be the one to take advice and give it, regardless of whether it's accepted or not.