riot doesnt ban bots

Yokujin·Jun 21, 2018·1 votes·2,706 views

i detect bots fairy easily (mostly common in bots mode, ARAM, 3v3)

usually [random letters][real name] or [real name][random letters]: those type of bots "try to play" or just a normal looking name with no random letters; they usually dont lh much, spam skills all over the place and die alot clanless and usually no "fancy letters" such as xX[name]Xx

2 days ago i met a player with this name composition in SR: randomL+realN he played jg, his name made me wonder: a bot? quickly looked him up on op.gg; level 50+

so i asked him a simple question: "did you buy your account?" he surprisingly answered: "yes"

the bot owner usually stop leveling the accounts at ~30 but this guy played for quite some time without getting banned

and riot apparently doesnt care about how much the players get ruined in 3v3 and ARAM in the precess and new players dont even know that they are bots, experiencing the worst possible sub-30 gaming experience

9 Comments

Kei143Jun 21, 20184 votes

Bots get banned in waves and not immediately after the game or getting reported. Even after review and found that they were a bit, they aren't immediately punished.

This way it's harder for the developer to know what got them detected.

It sucks for people in the short term, but this method works better in the long term.

YokujinJun 21, 20181 votes

the name is a dead giveaway for people such as myself who have to deal with them on daily basis

the bot devs dont care what got them detected, they just write a tool, upload it to some forum, cheaters, farmers download the tool and start making money they dont care either once the account got sold

the only loser here is the buyer once he gets banned

AJStarhikerJun 21, 20184 votes

It's something of an arms race between botters and RIot's detection systems. I imagine RIot would love to be able to preemtively block bots. And unfortunately for those of us who have to deal with bots in out games, it's better for RIot to run periodic ban waves, rather than ban players as soon as they confirm botting.

Keep in mind, the buyer isn't exactly innocent, either. Buying, selling and sharing accounts are explicitely mentioned as grounds for banning in the ToS.

YokujinJun 21, 20181 votes

when i found that player and confirmed that be bought the account i reported him as cheating; purchased account, originally a bot leveling account

2 days later: 30 mins ago he is still playing, according to op.gg

ChermorgJun 22, 20183 votes

Right, because as the other player said, they are banned in waves. That prevents the bot operators from determining how exactly their bot was detected.

YokujinJun 22, 20181 votes

refer to my other post; operators dont really care if they get banned, all they do is downloading a tool and offer the results later for sale

ChermorgJun 22, 20182 votes

So how do you suggest we combat it, if they aren't going to stop doing it?

So long as people buy accounts, they will sell accounts. So, the solution is to ban accounts people have bought (that were botted) so that those players hopefully don't buy an account again (who would spend money on an account if it's just going to get banned).

AneirinJun 22, 20182 votes

Are you deliberately not understanding people's replies? You've been told it's more efficient to ban them in waves. You're arguing the creators don't care either way. So what's the point of this discussion?

AJStarhikerJun 22, 20181 votes

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when i found that player and confirmed that be bought the account i reported him as cheating; purchased account, originally a bot leveling account

2 days later: 30 mins ago he is still playing, according to op.gg

Ban waves for botting tend to happen 2 or 3 times a year, with one of those usually during the preseason-- There's always a corresponding wave of "WHY DID i LOSE RANKED REWARDS!" posts one these boards. TBH, I think the loss of ranked rewards is almost as--if not more--harsh for some people than permabanning the account. They get the stigma of having a "gold" account with no border, no icon, no skin to show for it.