"nonmeta jungler is bad, we're going to play this out until you realize it"
Bot lane goes 1/9 by the 7 minute mark without any jungler intervention. From either team
But yeah, blame the nonmeta jungler
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Some people find it easier to just give up and blame a non-meta than actually play well. Thats why 0/1 turns into 0/9, they get an easy way out of feeling bad about the game and they take it.
See discoheat. Botlane dies at level 2 "gg report this ashe mid"
there is no lane that can be killed if played properly. if you die in lane, its always your fault and never the junglers or anyone else.
being non meta doesnt mean bad, it simply mean not the ''Most Efficient Tactic Available'' (META) meaning that non meta pick can be good and work BUT they arent the best thing you could do at the current state of the game ex. ( talon jg got a little bit of CC and deals alot of DMG, but j4 does too but better) you understand ?
you do understand that some lanes are lost due to being counterpicked? for exampl draven+janna vs vayne and bard:)...Draven wins this hard:).ot saying it's the jungler fault, but you need to be aware of this;)
As a jungler, you should be helping lanes especially if they are at a (slight) disadvantage. That said, unless you are next level you can't help everybody. Every lane should be able to hold their own even when counter picked. They may not win, but it's also not the jungler's fault if they feed. It's okay to lose a little in lane. Generally, when you get counter picked, it hurts you most early game but you either outscale later or provide something else to your team that they don't. Otherwise, they messed up hard in champion select anyway.
Anyway...everybody blames a jungler when they lose lane. I've had all 3 lanes losing and managed to help one out of the ground. The other 2 raged hard that I wasn't ganking for them and they were behind. They tend to only see their own lane, and as a jungler you have to watch the entire map and not babysit.
Being meta or not had nothing to do with their raging. Losing their lane did.
To be fair,they might have a point,at least to a certain extent.
I for one will play very differently depending on who the enemy jungler is,if it's something without much presence early I might play as if he isn't there at all,whereas if it's something with very serious presence,I might in turn play very passively,which puts me in a less favorable position for trades and all ins.
So yeah,the jungler can actually influence the lane a lot without ever going near it.
Now I'm not saying that they went 1/9 in 7 minutes due to that(and in fact it's highly unlike to be the case),but picking a weak early jungler can screw your team much more than you'd think.
Odds are, they're getting ganked cause you have no map presence or lane pressure and it IS the JG fault for at least half those deaths. That they're bad and feeding just makes it worse.