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I don't think people should be punished for telling others to report people

doiminat0r3600·11/11/2018, 6:44:51 PM·3 votes·1,506 views

Assuming the claim is legitimate, telling the enemy team once that <player> should be reported for <something actually against the rules>, punishment should not be acted upon.

However, if the player says it multiple times over all chat or in post game lobby, then action should be taken.

If it's the first time, it should be considered Venting. We've all been there. It's a very frustrating situation when you, as a support, get left alone in lane while your ADC moves ever 1.5 minutes to avoid the logout timer. Telling the enemy team what is happening so they are aware should be considered venting unless it's repetitive and consistent.

Also, can we fix Camille's icon to where she actually faces the front? She's the only champion that doesn't and it's bothering me.

Edit: They're here I guess. Every comment I've made on here has been downvoted all within 10 seconds.

You're not supposed to do that lol.

27 Comments

CharDeeMcDenniz11/11/2018, 6:49:03 PM5 votes

there's literally no reason to say it, 1 report has the exact same effect as 9

Jo0o11/11/2018, 6:50:06 PM3 votes

I don’t think I’ve ever seen somebody punished for just saying it once.

But legitimacy is subjective and unrealistic to establish mid-game, and as I’m sure you’re aware, multiple reports are redundant. Calling for reports is at best spam and at worst hostile.

ModPeriscope11/11/2018, 6:56:45 PM2 votes

I think DuckCurry explains it best:

{quoted}

Despite the word phrasing sounding benign on the surface ("report" isn't a bad word on its own) when someone calls for another player to be reported, there's a few implications under the hood, which really result in an attack on the player:

they're publicly expressing frustration towards another player

they're associating the target player with someone who exemplifies behaviors that would be valid to report for

they're asking for something negative to happen to the target player, like a chat restriction, ban, or worse.

and if they're doing it in All chat especially, they're also asking everyone else in the game to join in and gang up to hurt this player, context or no context, and maybe even seeking validation from others on the negative feelings they have towards the target player

...and the target player on the receiving end of this probably feels all these things in some shape or form. Unless you're friends, in a premade, or just happen to click with someone's personality, you'll risk the target player taking it negatively and feel attacked, hurt, and maybe even frustrated enough to submit a report at the end of game.

BONUS: For those who are looking to learn and aren't sure how to assess how others may interpret what they're saying, here's my personal high level take, which is basically 3 questions I ask myself: (examples included for fun)

Do i have good intentions behind my statements? (e.g., am i saying something because I'm angry and want to vent, or is there something genuine to be discussed here or something that needs to be clarified?)

Is what I'm saying/doing good for me? (e.g., is the thing I'm about to say going to help me win my lane, take objectives, or lead to victory?)

Is what i'm saying/doing good for others? (e.g., is telling someone that they're bad or did something poorly a few minutes ago actually going to help them right now? is it going to teach them something, or help them perform better in game, or increase the team's odds of making better decisions and winning? is it going to make people laugh or have a more enjoyable time? Is it going to have negative consequences for others, make them feel worse, or perform worse? are my positive intentions getting blocked by my choice of words and coming across the wrong way?)

...If I'm not getting a clear 'Yes' on all 3 questions, there's usually something I can improve, and an increased chance I'm going to come off offensive or unsportsmanlike in some way.

Basically it comes down to this:

Please don't call for reports. Just don't do it.

Consider the implications of the things being said, because at the end of the day, people will remember the way you made them feel, but not necessarily the specific words you've used.

Think about and be honest with the consequences of your words. If words didn't have power, we wouldn't be using them.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Zombie Gerbil11/11/2018, 7:03:53 PM2 votes

Telling people to report each other is taking your focus off the game and onto that person. While you're trying to convince people that this individual should be reported, could be playing the game instead of harassing a player.

It's not venting because it's toxic. No different than retaliating. Besides, it does absolutely nothing for the game itself for your team if you sit there trying to convince people to report each other. Quite literally, you should not focus on other players but should be focusing on the actual game itself.

disregardable11/11/2018, 6:48:08 PM2 votes

It's a line of text which is only said to directly makes someone feel worse.

I don't see why it should be allowed when all other chat which does that is banned.

Bansheenoir11/11/2018, 8:06:03 PM1 votes

But noooooo, You need to take it all then report at the end :/

ValyrianBlade11/11/2018, 6:51:32 PM1 votes

You don't need to ask for a report to say what's going on.

"My ADC stopped playing and is just moving every minute to avoid leaverbuster, this sucks" is perfectly fine to say.

"Report my ADC afk" isn't.

In the former they can choose for themselves. In the latter, well I can tell you that toxic players often say crap in all chat quickly to try to get the enemy on their side to report the legitimate player. They'll say the good guy was the one being toxic. Their duo will agree with them. Hence why it's a problem...

SUPERSATANA11/11/2018, 6:51:56 PM1 votes

Riot itself stated that you WON'T get punished ONLY for such a thing. They consider it something VERY mildly negative, but not worth a punishement "per se". Ofc IF you don't spam it, you don't use it like a threat etc.