Im not sure its possible to justify a permanent account ban when you could just permaban the chat function. people pay money for skins. ban account means no skins. taking peoples money and not delivering aint right. neither is flaming, but you can only flame if you have a chat function. so dont remove the entire account. just remove abused game feature.
elduris12 votesSimply put, permanent chat bans were tested and found to not work.
EvilDustMan8 votesBecause people salty enough to earn a permanent ban may resort to other methods if they can't express their generic futile rage through chat.
Oh sure, people say 'I wouldn't' but they usually say that after they've been permabanned.
Astôlfo6 votesToxic players do not deserve to enjoy the privilege of playing League. If they lose $10,000, so be it. That's entirely their fault.
DrCyanide6 votesThey tried that already with infinitely stacking chat restrictions. Players just used their limited chat to keep flaming.
Full out chat ban would likely result in people saying "hey, I suck at support, I'm going to swap roles with you" and there'd be nothing they could do about it. Even if you allow champion select chat, someone will "accidently" lock in a champion that is better at a role and have the chat banned player go a different role.
As others have said, it's a recipe for other, worse problems.
Awkward Couch5 votesBack with the Old Tribunal, people would stack up thousands of games worth of chat restrictions, essentially perma muting accounts. When people did this, they were more likely to feed and to troll instead of being toxic in chat.
dapositiveviking3 votesbecause you don't buy the skins to own, you pay riot for the using rights of a skin, like movies or bowling shoes. and riot has tried indefinitely stacking chat bans, and when people couldnt chat they griefed instead.
Starboyˇ3 votesBecause people that have been perma banned don't deserve to play the game and will just intentionally feed. I've had a perma ban the system is completely fair
Krigjer3 votesIf you can't behave like a decent human being in a video game, you really don't deserve to even play that game.
KirynDawn2 votesvalid point but riot just doesnt want those people to play their game i suppose
Strawberrycocoa2 votespeople pay money for skins. ban account means no skins.
People also click through without reading the terms and agreements that state they give Riot consent to remove or block their account at any time.
Woook3r1 voteswhats your point? i know the terms.
dapositiveviking1 votesthen you wouldnt talk about money spent like it has any impact
Woook3r1 votesIf someone gave me money for something, I wouldnt revoke it unless it was the last possible option that could work. Thats because of my sense of honor. As people have pointed out here. Chat bans do not work. I have my answer. Thanks.
Strawberrycocoa1 votesIf you new the terms then you would know that how much money you spend on skins means absolutely nothing in regards to behavior-based bans. There is no favoritism to the Haves over the Have-Nots regards to money, and according to the terms of use we all agree to when we make our accounts and when we launch the client at the start of a new patch, Riot has our consent to revoke access to accounts at anytime they deem necessary, without compensation or refund.
But then again, you know that. Clearly.
Woook3r1 votesIf someone gave me money for something, I wouldnt revoke it unless it was the last possible option that could work. Thats because of my sense of honor. As people have pointed out here. Chat bans do not work. I have my answer. Thanks.
Timethief492 votesYou buy a toy (skin) your Break the toy by using it wrong (breaking the summoners Code) you can't play with your toy anymore (Ban). If people can't Flame through Chat they Start Ping spamming or trolling. Also Flame destroys other peoples game experience so you are getting punished. Taking Chat away is more of a stopping further Flame than a punishment
Woook3r1 votesYou know what destroyed my experience? Being reliant on a support player in lane who truly did not want to even play support and who therefore decided to not give it any effort. The VAST majority of players hold support as their anti-preference.
That role destroyed any chance of fun I had playing draven that game and it does so on many occasions. That doesnt excuse what I did, I guess, but it doesnt excuse him for picking support when he had no interest in playing it in a fun, interesting, or effective way and it doesnt excuse riot for keeping that LESS-THAN-FUN-INTERESTING-AND-EFFECTIVE role in the game either.
I wanted nothing more than to afk and stop wasting my life at that point. I would gladly take a ban rather than sit through an hour of that painful idiocy. No one has a right to waste my time but me. Especially not someone who is only playing support because his premade wanted to get through the line faster.
Slythion1 votesbecause then you'll make a new account and buy more skins/etc which equals a higher profit for them :3
Woook3r1 votesthats a nice win rate on amumu. what is your amumu rank?
Zykklon B1 voteshaha
Awkward Couch2 votesbecause then you'll make a new account and buy more skins/etc which equals a higher profit for them :3
Why, why would you buy more skins if you got your account banned? If you're starting over, why would you buy more skins? That has never made sense to me. Behavioral economics tells us, if you have a negative experience with a company, especially one that you don't need to pay for access to a good, that you wouldn't give them more money.
Kei1431 votesthere's alot of rich toxic snobs out there that don't think negatively of Riot when they get permabanned.
probably cos they know what they did was wrong but they don't care
Woook3r1 votesTheres also people who worked for the money that they used to buy skins with. like me.
Kei1431 votesthat comment was for the toxics that keep spending money after they are permabanned.
for you a regular toxic and not a rich snob, we also pay for the RP and get access to skins as well. We choose to be civil and not toxic and not flame so we can enjoy the game, and so can others.
If you have been permabanned and are complaining about the money spent, then I say get out, as your attitude is not welcome, and you deserve to loose your money.
Woook3r1 votesI will never buy another skin. I have an alternate account with RP on it. I will never use that RP.
Awkward Couch3 votesI will never buy another skin. I have an alternate account with RP on it. I will never use that RP.
That's what I'm saying, there is the arguement of "Riot bans players accounts so they have to buy all those skins again" but if you got your account banned, why would you spend money on that game? It makes no sense to me.
Woook3r1 votesyea but i say shit all the time that doesnt make sense. so im not surprised.
Kei1431 votesthe purpose of a permaban is to stop them from playing the game, and not continue playing.
i.e, make them frustrated enough to have them leave LoL.
Ozuraak1 votesEasy solution. Just dont flame.
Nik Nikerson1 votesThey basically used to. Riot claims it didn't really work.
FiddlesOnTheRoof1 votesYou can flame with pings, intentional feeding, report system, etc. At some point, some people just don't deserve to play the game. And they were given MORE than enough warning. It was their fault they lost skins and runes