🔒 Banned 2 weeks for hovering alistar jungle

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Hello, I was banned 2 weeks for hovering alistar jungle in a game I had many autofills. The only reason I wanted to try alistar was because of my friend adrian that told me he had good success with it top lane. I knew we had a low chance of winning as my best champion ezreal was banned so I needed to put as much pressure with this champion early game in order to win.

I think this happened because many people spam reported my account and probably sent mass tickets to get me banned.

Other streamers have played Alistar in a similar fashion and receive no type of ban. Adrian riven playing alistar top : https://gyazo.com/b6726d1f6c6cef1c575c9107fb595676 Dyrus playing alistar jungle : https://gyazo.com/738e8763e5090e3586483bee88ccf877

119 Comments

Oniigiri36 votes

Weren't you banned for threatening to play zilean jungle in champ select to get people to dodge?

Vìvì33 votes

"there are multiple instances where you threaten to troll the team and lock in intentionally poor picks for jungle such as zilean in order to get people to dodge the queue" https://twitter.com/LoLTarzaned/status/920445252103786497

Slice n Dice em3 votes

So qtpie can Sion AD, but tarzaned cant zilean jungle?alistar or zilean whatever...

Oniigiri11 votes

Context matters. It seems like he was threatening offmeta picks to get people to dodge. Not just trying something new

Slice n Dice em1 votes

what context? AD Sion seems like a threatening off-meta pick to get people to dodge too. Which would you prefer Sion as adc or zilean as jungle? No, you wouldn't prefer both, rules are there for a reason. And Riot acting on whim/playing favorites is totally not the way to go.

Votable Jester6 votes

I'd rather have someone trying to win with Sion AD than someone tilted playing Zilean jungle. Besides, it sounds like there were chat logs of him specifying that his pick of Zilean jungle was a threat to make them dodge. It's the threat that warrants the ban, not the champion pick.

Stinrygar6 votes

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Context matters. It seems like he was threatening offmeta picks to get people to dodge. Not just trying something new

It actually does NOT matter. If you only feel like playing off meta when your best champions are banned or you're just bored, it does NOT change a thing. It's either allowed or isn't. You can't say "oh but you usually don't play off meta so now I report you". Context does not matter in any way here unless he was not trying in the game and just walking in circles etc. I certainly am more willing to go off-meta in games I perceive as low winning chances (Teemo ADC). I have every right to do this. It is completely up to me when I choose to go off meta and my motivations for it are no one's business as long as I try in game. Obviously, there are some exceptions. Taric mid is just not remotely viable (unless vs Zed, I guess) so that's going past just off meta.

Eedat16 votes

For those who dont know, Tarzanned (who is the OP of this thread btw) is a full blown rager who is well known for flaming others in game, on his stream, and across multiple platforms such as Twitter. This guy has multiple accounts banned for flaming, inting, and afking when anything doesnt go his way. He regularly holds champ select hostage and actually threatens to troll all the time hence his multiple banned accounts. He is Tyler1 levels of toxic. It's EXTREMELY well known.

He didnt get banned for locking in Zilean jungle. He got banned because he repetitively threatens to troll on multiple streams in front of THOUSANDS of people and will actually follow up on it.

https://youtu.be/C9Y4Uey4qNA

Full Tilt Fedora1 votes

Snitch cmonBruh

Big Black Croc3 votes

hol'up, playing zilean jungle is bannable?

2Charmnot2Charm13 votes

More like using it to threaten people to dodge is bannable not the pick itself (even if it is garbage).

Big Black Croc1 votes

but I don't understand, how do you know if he was trolling or just wanting to play zilean jungle? Ive see off meta picks hovered in champion select and a teammate dodged but they don't get a ban...

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

He was attempting to play it as a troll pick & suck at it, not because he intends to play & be serious at it. There's a mentality difference here.

Telephone Booth5 votes

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but I don't understand, how do you know if he was trolling or just wanting to play zilean jungle? Ive see off meta picks hovered in champion select and a teammate dodged but they don't get a ban...

Because the report specifies that he was doing it to get people to dodge. It's implying that he was trolling, and not just wanting to play zilean. Just because they didnt provide chat logs in there, doesnt mean he didnt use chat. Up to you to believe if Riot is lying and just deciding to randomly ban some guy, while letting others get away with it, or if they actually had reason to ban this guy specifically. The latter sounds more reasonable and realistic.

Wimbledofy5 votes

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but I don't understand, how do you know if he was trolling or just wanting to play zilean jungle?

Because things like chat logs exist

Big Black Croc1 votes

So if he didn't use the chat but still played zilean jungle he wouldn't get banned?

Silent Gravity6 votes

No. Any champion can be played in any role.

Trolling and threatening to troll are both bannable though.

Chermorg25 votes

I was going to try not to make a comment here, but I would like to offer my completely non-official opinion as a community member who has sampled both the twitter account and the streams of the person in question.

This person isn't your normal Challenger grind player. This person has used their fame for attempted monetary gain (by advertising for and/or actually boosting accounts). Further, this player has made a list of "dodge players" - players who he will troll champion select lobbies to get someone to dodge in if he is matched with these players. And he trolled to attempt to force people to dodge in multiple games - simply because he didn't want to do it himself.

Riot placed this ban on the player because nobody, no matter how high ranked, no matter how much they stream, no matter how popular they are, is above the Summoner's Code. The Summoner's Code can be boiled down to one line: "don't be a jerk". Making a "hit list" of dodge players and then releasing it publicly, trolling to get other people to dodge games that he doesn't want to play with them in, and trying to use your fame/high rank to advertise for services which are at best anticompetitive and at worst worth a permanent ban in and of themselves - those are all negative behaviors that are contrary to the spirit and the words of the Summoner's Code.

The bottom line is that this player has been doing this for quite some time - and it only came to the attention now towards the end of the season, which is why everyone's crying "politics". There is no politics involved. Riot saw enough reports with validity to perform a manual review of the account, at which time they discovered punishable behavior (and quite a bit of it). I'd be surprised if they weren't also aware of the other actions that the player has taken on off-Riot sites (twitter/streams) that are also contrary to the competitive spirit of League.

My personal opinion? This player doesn't deserve to be Challenger at the end of the season. They don't deserve their ranked rewards (which they are now ineligible for). They don't deserve their honor. They are certainly not an honorable player, and if they try to game the system by trolling to get people to dodge bad selections, or making a "hit list" of "bad" players to try and game the matchmaking system, they aren't skilled enough to be Challenger on their own.

Let this be a warning to everyone - nobody is above the rules, and Riot will catch you eventually. Is it worth losing your 50th (or higher) rank in the world, the skins on your account, your time, your friends... etc?

Hachira1 votes

Buuuuut he made it rank1 If said player is bad then how come he has an above 70% winrates nearly on all champs he plays and 3+ kda

I discovered tarzaned when i was watching bjergsen stream and saw 3 people collapsing on lvl5 olaf (actually the highest in the game with 2kills) while bjergsen was last hitting under his turret and the toplaner recalling. Unskilled? Stats scream he's good. Easilu tilted? Yes

Im a gold player and when this happens i get tilted. Imagine high elo and pro players doing it... and they ALWAYS do that shiet

General Esdeath 1 votes

Because he grinded on a busted champ (Graves) in a broken role (jungle). A jungler could hit 6 while solo laners were still 4. That's why Riot changed camp timers. Also he was win trading with someone. Not hard to have a good KDA when most of your accounts are smurfing in gold/plat.

zecastar3 votes

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Because he grinded on a busted champ (Graves) in a broken role (jungle). A jungler could hit 6 while solo laners were still 4. That's why Riot changed camp timers. Also he was win trading with someone. Not hard to have a good KDA when most of your accounts are smurfing in gold/plat.

I don't think he's ever had a smurf in Gold or Plat for more than a dozen or two games. Don't let your hate blind you to reality.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"A dozen or two" is 12-24, that's a lot for boosting your winrate and KDA.

astralwit2 votes

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"A dozen or two" is 12-24, that's a lot for boosting your winrate and KDA.

You literally make no sense. He isn't playing his smurfs against each other. You must be using some strong stuff...

YerroFever14 votes

Show us your reform card because this makes no sense...

Spank the Fox12 votes

Interesting how you managed to interpret "we banned you because you were picking sub-optimal picks for jungle in attempt to force a dodge, such as Zilean" to "Riot banned me for hovering Alistar"

If you're not going to be candid, go away. There's already enough children on here that try to perform mental gymnastics to justify why they shouldn't be banned. We don't need a high level challenger with visibility making this even more acceptable.

Chermorg15 votes

This is 100% true.

I don't give a rat's ass if you're the bottom of bronze or the top of challenger, intentionally attempting to force people to dodge is wrong and it most certainly is against the Summoner's Code and will get them banned.

It looks to me like Riot banned him for multiple instances in which he was toxic and trolling his team in champ select.

##He doesn't get any special treatment for being Challenger nor for being a streamer.

xMidnight3 votes

If im hovering twitch, and a person on my team bans Twitch after ive shown that i wanna play it, shouldnt that be banable too then, since its actually just trolling and trying to force you into dodging? :thinking:

Sayonara Shabi9 votes

ahh changing up the story to make yourself the victim i wasnt expecting this at all item 3070

CarryLord Brix8 votes

That's very strange, did they say specifically why the pick got you banned?

DreamTeamProxE7 votes

Free the man if singed can supp with smite this guy can try out ali jgAlistar You CAN milk those.

DressedSalad6 votes

P sure the guy that invented singed supp with smite got a 2 week suspension due to reports LOL

zecastar4 votes

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P sure the guy that invented singed supp with smite got a 2 week suspension due to reports LOL

Why would it be? If you are allowed to play off meta, you cannot decide someone committed a "thought crime" and is thus trolling. Some people do joke around or try to get dodges but the fact is, they're ENTIRELY within their right as long as it's not a 100% troll pick like Braum ADC. Maybe someone only plays off meta when they're in a bad mood because it's more fun. Why should you give a fuck about their reason? It's either within the rules or not. You can't have it both ways. That's just fake BS.

gifted player6 votes

It's funny all of you guys talking out of your asses without knowing the real facts. How can riot say that he hovered zilean jungle in an attempt to get people to dodge when he didn't even own zilean on that account? Also, why is alistar jungle automatically considered a troll pick only when tarzaned picks it, but when Dyrus picks it no one bats an eye? Very nice bias coming from all of you, good to see you guys are all thinking critically about the situation.

archerno17 votes

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It's funny all of you guys talking out of your asses without knowing the real facts. How can riot say that he hovered zilean jungle in an attempt to get people to dodge when he didn't even own zilean on that account? Also, why is alistar jungle automatically considered a troll pick only when tarzaned picks it, but when Dyrus picks it no one bats an eye? Very nice bias coming from all of you, good to see you guys are all thinking critically about the situation.

Maybe because Tarzaned is well known troll and toxic player, while Dyrus isnt?

Adªm3 votes

We live in a world where a Challenger player can get a suspension for even CONSIDERING to play something off meta. The first team to have Ezreal jungle definitely wasn't happy, but here it is dominating the standard and pro scene. Honestly, what kind of hatred and bias did someone have against this player? Didn't a Riot employee get laid off for biased actions against a certain Draven main?[sg-lux-2]

Chermorg5 votes

He wasn't just considering. He was full on trolling and being toxic in the champion select lobby chat to attempt to get someone else to dodge so he wouldn't have to.

Big Black Croc3 votes

I wish my teammates would get banned for hovering yasuo mid.

Ravore3 votes

Is this riot support? The forums? Are you trying to get public opinion on your side when you pick AND choose what you show us. I literally don't believe you just take it up with them.

Jobriq3 votes

troll post

Somber Fox3 votes

You were banned because you threaten people and wish death threats upon people + grief when people pick what you don't like. So, what you do is immediately tilt and decide they don't deserve to win and tell them that if they don't dodge that you'll go AFK and troll and never gank them/etc etc.

I know that because I have been in games with you before on my main, and so have my friends. It actually legitimately impresses me how often you threaten peoples' lives + even flame your own friends and say they deserve to be raped and murdered in front of their families(( YOUR OWN FRIENDS!!!)). It makes me wonder how you are as a person outside of League. Do your parents know how you are online? I wonder if you tell people in stores that they should have their throats slit for messing up on a sandwich like you do here when people miss cs?

I also wonder why Riot hasn't banned your actual identity yet with the amount of death threats and harassment you give to people. Life comes full circle and you're going to hate the aftermath.

I know a lot of these words are harsh, but I want you guys to understand the actual crap Tarzaned says to people in lobby and in game. He legitimately threatens peoples' lives, and how he hasn't been life long banned from this game is something I frankly don't understand.

r1pp3r dj3 votes

oi retards. point is a lot of other players in challenger playing alistar jungle or top. why is he banned for such a stupid reason. decisions tend to have a taste of bias when it comes to tarzaned. for the guy explaining who is tarzaned: its pretty shallow to say someone is extremely toxic and bla bla does this does that. dude imagine the level of toxicity that he gets from other players. he gets trolled a lot , he just keeps going on. like how can you judge a person just from pointing out when people do dumb stuff on stream. like legit you dumb reddit analysts have no fucking idea how to process thoughts. First of all he is the best jungler in NA. His games are fun to watch because most of them he tends to dominate the map by himself. He has a flawless pathing and he coordinates insaleny well with teammates. have clips from his stream and from replays i watch from his games. The only problem is that he tries to educate people who are legit dumb af. I give this game 1 year till it collapses if rito goes on to do dumb stuff like this. I mean we have Imaqtipie who goes lethality sion and lethality xin zhao. i can make a list if any of you dumb motherfuckers wants so you can see who is truly trolling in high elo. Besides judging from my experience i have reported afk players , inters even manually here and they are left untouched because they dont stream, they dont cut through ladderboards like tarzaned.

So to conclude , @riotgames please stop being retarded and unban him. right now %%%%s. @redditanalystswhothinktheyknoweverything just watch dont raise your voice when u dont know this guy. thnx

Remmy San1 votes

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oi retards. point is a lot of other players in challenger playing alistar jungle or top. why is he banned for such a stupid reason. decisions tend to have a taste of bias when it comes to tarzaned. for the guy explaining who is tarzaned: its pretty shallow to say someone is extremely toxic and bla bla does this does that. dude imagine the level of toxicity that he gets from other players. he gets trolled a lot , he just keeps going on. like how can you judge a person just from pointing out when people do dumb stuff on stream. like legit you dumb reddit analysts have no fucking idea how to process thoughts. First of all he is the best jungler in NA. His games are fun to watch because most of them he tends to dominate the map by himself. He has a flawless pathing and he coordinates insaleny well with teammates. have clips from his stream and from replays i watch from his games. The only problem is that he tries to educate people who are legit dumb af. I give this game 1 year till it collapses if rito goes on to do dumb stuff like this. I mean we have Imaqtipie who goes lethality sion and lethality xin zhao. i can make a list if any of you dumb motherfuckers wants so you can see who is truly trolling in high elo. Besides judging from my experience i have reported afk players , inters even manually here and they are left untouched because they dont stream, they dont cut through ladderboards like tarzaned.

So to conclude , @riotgames please stop being retarded and unban him. right now %%%%s. @redditanalystswhothinktheyknoweverything just watch dont raise your voice when u dont know this guy. thnx

bless

SΤRIDER2 votes

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DreamTeamProxE8 votes

classic EUW response ;D

Telephone Booth2 votes

Proof please. I definitely don't believe you, and anyone who does is quite gullible.

abbbez2 votes

So maybe send us the ingame chat as well?

General Esdeath 2 votes

I like how you posted this on Twitter to get your fanboys to upvote it

Galacius2 votes

I'm going to give a friendly reminder to keep things civil. Please do not flame anyone or the person involved.

Thanks.

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