Reasons for my Toxicity

Kenkashi·8/4/2018, 2:19:14 AM·2 votes·2,201 views

I sent this to Riot to hopefully help with their ongoing research, figured I'd share here not necessarily for feedback, but to add to the wealth of information on the subject.

The main impetus for my toxicity, from my own introspection, seems to come from a feeling of helplessness during games. Like I'm powerless to not only perform enough to win some games, but beyond that my inability to rally the team to meet me even halfway. At this point, any sort of protest or slight from teammates irritates me to no end. It isn't just their words, but their play that feels almost like a personal attack. It feels incredibly personal, as if they joined this game with the sole intent to harrass me and make me have a bad time, like their only purpose was to do that instead of to try and play a game of league. After that it sort of often becomes an insult slinging competititon between me and others. This is, I think, an extension of a personality flaw of mine, where I typically argue to the death. I will die on certain hills, but for the most part I argue until someone is right and the other is wrong regardless of whether it is me that is wrong. This relentlessness can be obnoxious, especially in the wrong time and place, but for the most part I think the unpleasantness of it all is mitigated by laughs, and smiles, and reassurances of no hard feelings in disagreements. Things I can't really do through chat.

Overall, I'd say this is the pertinent information I can come up with:

-There are specific triggers, I can go hundreds of games without toxicity.

-There are real world influences, if it was a bad or long day etc

-Often incited because of a feeling of personalness with the trigger event. It feels like I'm personally slighted, although that is likely never the case. It feels like I was picked out personally to be abused through grief or inting, or just a lack of trying to win a game that I want to win.

Brainstorming on Solutions:

Ranked Restrictrictions and Chat restrictions were somewhat effective, but definitely not effective enough.

For me and my ilk, I think it would be a lot more effective if there was sort of an "LP handicap" if you are toxic too much. Sort of like leaverbuster, where the more toxic you are, the less LP you gain per match for a set number of matches. Often times I think toxic people are people that really care about the game, really care about winning, really care about climbing. If it's a constant nuisance to climb, I would imagine it would act as a deterrence to toxic behavior better than permabans would, because passionate players will just get another account and go through the process, while also being more toxic because they have less at stake every time they get banned.

-I don't see reform happening that often with cases like mine, since the toxicity more than anything is an outlet of frustration. I may as well be talking to no one, or talking outloud without anyone to hear (which also helps if I vocalize my frustrations rather than type it out)

-An ingame message system that detects when you're being toxic and gives you a giant message, or orange text in game with a sound that tells you you're likely to be banned. it might bring some people back to earth.

A way to turn off your ability to send messages the same way you can disable all chat. Just turn it off and then you can type type type and no one will be able to read what you send.

Anyway, thanks for listening if you do. Good luck in your experiments!

2 Comments

cT Preist8/4/2018, 8:03:00 AM2 votes

Honestly, I love the idea of a way to turn off your own chat. I used to have anger issues in competitive games like League and would often break my monitor/headset/mouse/keyboard. I've got it more under control these days but when I do get pissed off because of my team feeding/flaming the way to keep myself is by flaming them back. I need a way to release my negative energy somewhere and I'd rather it be in-game than irl. I've even gone through a stage where I would tell my teammates to mute me at the start of the game because if they keep fucking up I'm gonna end up flaming them more than likely. But obviously, that will give people a reason to not mute me and wait for me to flame so they can report me and try to get me banned. I really wish when you muted someone they couldn't see your messages either. That way I could load into a game /mute all than not have to worry about my behavior because its only affecting myself rather than other players. I really can't see a way that a way to mute yourself for everyone else would be negative. I personally would use this system myself a lot knowing how competitive and toxic I get.

Kaisa Aran8/4/2018, 2:55:15 AM1 votes

It's 10:50 PM here so I'm gonna be pretty brief, sorry. Just to be clear though I really love your honesty & your dedication in making this post!

-There are specific triggers, I can go hundreds of games without toxicity.

Correct. Toxicity is triggered by multiple factors (much like many other psychological topics) including but not limited to mental susceptibility, the severity of stressor(s), the individual's type of schema (experience with the world and League in particular) & more. In other words - a lot goes into making someone who they are, their type/degree of toxicity being one of them.

-There are real world influences, if it was a bad or long day etc

Correct again, this is one of the factors I was talking about above (situational factors).

-I don't see reform happening that often with cases like mine, since the toxicity more than anything is an outlet of frustration. I may as well be talking to no one, or talking outloud without anyone to hear (which also helps if I vocalize my frustrations rather than type it out)

Escapism is a very common thing on social media & the internet in general, this is nothing new and you shouldn't be ashamed for needing to get it all out once in a while. If I had to suggest anything though it's to tackle your stressors head on and either work to diminish them or get rid of them altogether. One easy solution - punch a pillow to get your energy out!

A way to turn off your ability to send messages the same way you can disable all chat. Just turn it off and then you can type type type and no one will be able to read what you send.

I currently still want this very much, please do this Riot.

Overall I think your post is very insightful & well thought out, good job. I hope that the self-reflection helps both you and others in the future and that Riot notices it too! [sg-ahri-2]