I have a confession... Got permbanned for providing justice

Raigarak·1/15/2020, 4:54:57 PM·2 votes·2,342 views

In one of my games, I had a feminist and transgender on my team. Everything was going well and we were stomping the enemy team. But, then the enemy midlaner started being transphobic and was talking down to women. I got triggered and called the enemy laner "human trash", "dogshit", "piece of shit" etc.. My team gave me 4 honors for defending them, but Riot gave me a perm banned notice a few days later. Yet, the enemy mid laner is still playing till this day. Concidence? I think not

20 Comments

HommeGoujon1/15/2020, 5:08:04 PM11 votes

That wasn't justice lol That was just you insulting someone else.

CharDeeMcDenniz1/15/2020, 4:57:23 PM6 votes

is this a serious post?

Cind3rkick1/15/2020, 4:56:37 PM6 votes

Wow you were toxic and got banned. Coincidence? I think not.

Modi1/15/2020, 6:48:00 PM6 votes

That isn't justice. That is retaliation.

Arammus1/15/2020, 5:27:03 PM4 votes

ah yes the "defend justice" id just like to say that the 5 transgender people i know all hate if some random wannabe hero comes in and "defends" them. they never asked for it, they dont want it AND this is my fave quote of one of them "im already a grown up. i think i can deal with some bad words on the internet"

Eedat1/15/2020, 9:16:40 PM3 votes
Kei1431/15/2020, 8:24:31 PM2 votes

Few days later?

I want to see your reform card.

Dragau41/15/2020, 5:22:17 PM2 votes

Check the rules... yes it was nice of you, but the real solution was for everyone to mute that person, and report them at the end. Not so complicated isnt it

Yin Yang Taoist1/15/2020, 6:30:01 PM1 votes

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In one of my games, I had a feminist and transgender on my team. Everything was going well and we were stomping the enemy team. But, then the enemy midlaner started being transphobic and was talking down to women. I got triggered and called the enemy laner "human trash", "dogshit", "piece of shit" etc.. My team gave me 4 honors for defending them, but Riot gave me a perm banned notice a few days later. Yet, the enemy mid laner is still playing till this day. Concidence? I think not

If you're playing Riot's games then you have to play by their rules. You can defend someone like this IRL if they look like they can't stand up for themselves. But Riot doesn't want you to implement what you'd do IRL, in their games. Especially in the chat, be careful of the words you use and the implication (Nothing negative or offensive). They want you to mute-report. Its just how it is. If you feel like its unfair and they were using homophobic slurs, yet not banned. You can submit a ticket and have this manually checked and get them punished as well. But most likely, you won't have your punishment removed. And the board members also won't sympathize with you because they are following Riot's policy of punishment to gauge your logs. Using those words is a definite punishment. No ifs, buts or legitimate defense with regards to it.

Personally, I usually have everything muted but even if I see someone mess around like this. I just [slayer-pantheon-popcorn] and report them in the end if I feel like it. No need to get yourself mixed up in this situation. People do this IRL all the time. Take out their cell phones and record or call the police. There's no need to stick your neck out to help anyone because chances are that you will end up with the short end of the stick. Like, what happened to you. Of-course, if I can help someone out IRL without risking too much then I don't mind helping them. My point is, don't mix how you'd act IRL with how you act in League. Especially with Riot because their rules are concise and anything negative- not to mention toxic will be punished if it gets on their desks. Just like what happened to you. That account has been active since S1, its really sad that you got perma-banned on it. I'd keep my eyes peeled for whenever they decide another experiment on perm-banned accounts. And hopefully, salvage it.

Good luck with your next account OP, if you decide to keep playing. [galio-happy]

Foxynth1/15/2020, 6:34:54 PM1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Tele II1/15/2020, 10:48:13 PM1 votes

Insulting someone for insulting someone isnt justice. The middle of a league match is not the time to play social justice warrior (and i hate that trendy phrase, but this is actually the literal definition of it, so it fits). Next time someone offends you, just mute them and report them. If they broke the rules, Riot will take notice, just like how you got noticed for breaking the rules.

fatherdarius1/16/2020, 4:52:48 AM1 votes

My future daughter-in-law (my son's fiance) is transgender.

She doesn't announce this in-game (why would she) but if someone starts making slurs against the trans community she simply mutes and reports. Then again, she's very comfortable with herself and doesn't get easily offended by trollish behavior - especially online.

Which, ideally, is what you should have done in this situation. Then you'd still have your account.


That being said, sometimes you DO need to take a stand, even if it costs you something personal. Like a league account. Which is not tangible thing, and ultimatel in the scheme of life isn't really that important. Did the teammate need you to stand for him or her? Who knows. But, maybe they DID and maybe your actions helped them just a little bit. Sure, it might have cost you to fight back (people have been jailed, fined, and executed for less) but maybe in this instance you did the noble thing.

No good deed goes unpunished, as they say. The stoic thing to do is take your lumps. I hope it was worth it (i really do, I'm not being snarky). Sometimes we make sacrifices, or do the 'wrong' thing for the right reasons.

I don't agree with your decision, but I salute your reasons.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Lastly - lest some fool claim I'm some "SJW snowflake" (or whatever the lastest insult is) - know that I'm pretty dead center on the political spectrum (with slight conservative leanings fiscally and slight liberal leanings societally) and am obviously an 'old fart' who is sick of humanity's BS. We treat each other terribly sometimes, for really awful reasons. I find the rage on both sides of the political aisle both distasteful and dishonest. Not that it matters. But seriously, just be your own person, I say. If other's don't like it, find new 'others'. Ultimately, as was suggested in Bill & Tedd, should we not be 'excellent to each other'?

Peace.

(And not that it's anyone's business, but I'm proud to say that my future daughter in law is the best thing that has ever happened to my son. She's helped him become a responsible adult. We once told him if they break up, we'll adopt her and miss HIM... should have seen his face, LOL)

FrenchDragoon231/15/2020, 10:12:34 PM1 votes

Chargeback now!

ModPeriscope1/16/2020, 4:39:46 PM1 votes

No, others' behavior does not mean you get a free pass to insult others.

I'll periodically see someone use hatespeech in a game. Because I don't want them or anyone else repeating it, I kindly ask them to stop, and mute them if they don't.

If you repeated anything the other player was saying, you may want to write a Support ticket.