Why do people get so mad at ggez?

Terozu··7 votes·4,147 views

First off, i dont say it, but i dont particularly care unless theyre also being an asshole or spamming it. In which case its more like an added prop to the report. So tell me, why do so many people get so tilted by this?

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A Sealed Box5 votes

The way I see "ggez" is akin to how I see "Stay free" in the FGC. Only complete douchebags say "Stay free" in the FGC: Think of Lowtiergod, or Darksydephil when I say that only douchebags say that phrase in the FGC.

It's pretty much similar sentiments in MOBA games when someone says, "ggez", or any variant of that. It'll probably get the person who is saying it jolly off their knockers, but it makes everyone else not on that person's team feel like crap.

Another way to think about it (personally one that made me laugh because my friend told me about it and he makes a lot of things funny) is: Let's say you're eating cereal at home, and your neighbor rudely barges into your home, then decides to pee in your cereal, and says, "Good morning neighbor!". I'm sure many people in here wouldn't like that.

Terozu1 votes

I have NO idea who either of those two are.

A Sealed Box1 votes

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I have NO idea who either of those two are.

In the FGC, Darksydephil was the douchebag that would constantly berate other players for sucking, even though he's considered one of the worst FGC players in terms of mechanical skill. He's been documented getting beaten by a kid below the age of 15, and he called the kid a "cheater", a "scrub", and a "bitch". He bans anyone from his streams and Twitter who do not agree with his narrow viewpoint and anyone who criticizes him is automatically an idiot, even if the person is college educated (Darksydephil has at most, a high school education, and survives by streaming every day).

Lowtiergod is essentially Darksydephil. except an African-American version of him.

Teralisan4 votes

...seeing a teammate say "ggez" after I spent 25-40 minutes trying my best makes me feel down.

Mama Soraka3 votes

Also if somebody on my team decides to say GGEZ I certainly don't feel any better about it either so we're talking about basically nobody caring except the person doing it.

Oh and I haven't seen any DSP related stuff for years now but is he really a poor sport at tournaments? Does he even still do tournaments? Actually don't answer that, the less I know about DSP the better.

A Sealed Box1 votes

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Also if somebody on my team decides to say GGEZ I certainly don't feel any better about it either so we're talking about basically nobody caring except the person doing it.

Oh and I haven't seen any DSP related stuff for years now but is he really a poor sport at tournaments? Does he even still do tournaments? Actually don't answer that, the less I know about DSP the better.

I didn't see him at EVO when I went. I think the FGC scared him off from doing face-to-face venues, which it must have taken a LOT to do so. All the FGC guys I met and became friends with were some of the nicest and most accepting people I have met in my life; they gave me a rough crash course on how to play fighting games efficiently when I told them I'm not a big fighting game person and would like to learn.

He spends most of his time just streaming, blaming people for cheating, and has gotten substantially worse in every aspect ever since he became single again.

Mama Soraka1 votes

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It must be pretty rough for him right now. If he could just grow up and stop that blaming everyone but himself thing he does I'd watch him more.

ModPeriscope5 votes

It's a meek attempt at bad sportsmanship. "I'm gonna be a bad sport, but I don't want any of the repercussions of it in game."

Curious Kat5 votes

I hate that damn phrase. Like, no matter how it's used, it's still being a dick. Unless saying GG Ezreal, then it's OK.

But the way the game is, and how it's over in champ select 9 times out of 10, of course it was "EZ", you guys had 2 hard engage tanks that do damage with said engage, while CCing your whole team for 3+ seconds. How could it not be easy, all you had to do was stand there and auto thanks to tanks. Meanwhile my team refused to even pick a champ they've at least PLAYED more than 5 times in their lifetime. Like, no durr it was EZ.

Or my favorite, some troll decides to int, and be an all chat warrior. And then the person they fed has the guts to say GG EZ. Like, really? NOOOO, i wonder why it was EZ for you. Could it be someone literally walked under your turret 7 times in a row while all you had to do was auto them once? Definitely not that, nope. It was EZ because you are just that good right?

Sorry, i get salty when i read that phrase. You can tell a lot about someone by the way they win a match. A simple GG WP is all that's needed. No need to be a dick.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I hate that damn phrase. Like, no matter how it's used, it's still being a dick. Unless saying GG Ezreal, then it's OK.

But the way the game is, and how it's over in champ select 9 times out of 10, of course it was "EZ", you guys had 2 hard engage tanks that do damage with said engage, while CCing your whole team for 3+ seconds. How could it not be easy, all you had to do was stand there and auto thanks to tanks. Meanwhile my team refused to even pick a champ they've at least PLAYED more than 5 times in their lifetime. Like, no durr it was EZ.

Or my favorite, some troll decides to int, and be an all chat warrior. And then the person they fed has the guts to say GG EZ. Like, really? NOOOO, i wonder why it was EZ for you. Could it be someone literally walked under your turret 7 times in a row while all you had to do was auto them once? Definitely not that, nope. It was EZ because you are just that good right?

Sorry, i get salty when i read that phrase. You can tell a lot about someone by the way they win a match. A simple GG WP is all that's needed. No need to be a dick.

See, this is what I'm talking about in my other post here... You've created a persona for the person who says it to you. THATS what makes you angry. You think, is this guy really that fucking dumb?! NO SHIT IT WAS EASY. lol... I understand why you do that, but you gotta keep it in check. The dude might be saying it knowing full well that he didn't do shit. The very reason he is saying it, might be to piss you off. And you let it work. YOU give it power. I know, you get upset when people are complete assholes and do stupid shit like that. They don't see the world your way. Let it go... It only hurts yourself to get so tilted off of a phrase that people are going to use against you so many times.

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

Personally, I tend to consider it along the following lines:

  • "GG" - Handshake after a game
  • Says nothing - Doesn't shake hands after the game
  • "GGEZ" Spits on you rather than shaking your hand

It's just an unnecessarily disrespectful gesture.

There is simply no purpose in doing so unless you just want to be an ass.

420 grams3 votes

People get mad about anything you say to them, even if it's nice and trying to be helpful.

Chermorg14 votes

In what way is telling someone the game was easy for you "nice and... helpful"?

EPIKON1 votes

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In what way is telling someone the game was easy for you "nice and... helpful"?

Because game was easy for me, I can't say it like it is?

What's next, Darth Vader can't say he is indeed Luke's father?

Chermorg6 votes

I don't see why you have to brag about it?

420 grams1 votes

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In what way is telling someone the game was easy for you "nice and... helpful"?

I meant if you try to tell a team mate something helpful they immediately try to flame you for something.

Master Noct3 votes

It's a way to be a douche, that's for sure.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Vayne GGEZ

Ezreal Hey, thanks!

Terozu1 votes

Id respond with my own joke but im on phone and cant use icons. I garentee it would be funny. I might be being a little vayne and this might jinx me but it is somewhat ez to make puns about just about anniething in LoL even if youre just ekkoing your kindred punners.

Master Noct2 votes

I see we have a Graves-ituation here.

Terozu1 votes

...Well you are a badAshe, take 4 slow claps.

DariusDemiurge2 votes

Mostly people seem to dislike it because the person typing that in all chat was the worst player on the winning team. Typically 3-11-5 vaynes, ezreals, yasuos and other ckiche/sterotype champs known for having obnoxious players.

I can't use an example that I want cause I'd get banned.

Beas7ie4 votes

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Mostly people seem to dislike it because the person typing that in all chat was the worst player on the winning team. Typically 3-11-5 vaynes, ezreals, yasuos and other ckiche/sterotype champs known for having obnoxious players.

I can't use an example that I want cause I'd get banned.

Well for the the game was "ez" because their team carried them. hahahahaha

Seriously though, most of the time it's just because they're trying to be assholes and tilt the other team further. It's like saying "You guys sucked so hard you didn't even give us a challenge". And when you imply that, you're being an asshole.

Why do you have to say the game was "ez"? What do you have to gain by doing that? Do you see athletes saying a game was "ez" after a win? No, people who just say that are just being assholes and Rito's rules on behavior pretty much boil down to "do NOT be an asshole".

Telephone Booth2 votes

I honestly think that it would not bother people that much, but the fact that it's reportable, people report it just because they can. I mean, people who say it are kind of asses. It's just a jackass thing to say after winning. So since it is deemed reportable by riot, people report it, not because it offends them, but because it could get a jackass punished, so why not?

Terozu2 votes

Ummm it wasnt deemed reportable by Riot. The system learns. If a lot of people being reported are saying the same key phrase it starts issuing punishments. It was deemed reportable by players.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Yeah that is true actually. I guess I mean, just the fact that they think it could get a jackass punished, and since its so quick and easy to report someone, they report for it.

It's not the "ggez" itself that is offensive, its the persona you create for the person that said it. That subconscious idea in your head, that this is some snickering, cocky little punk laughing at you, trying to piss you off. You want that person to get banned so you can imagine the look on their face. But I'm pretty sure, most people quickly forget about the ggez and move on.

I think that's the general psychology of it. It's the anonymity of being online. If you knew the person, you wouldn't give two shits about the ggez, depending on their personality. Maybe you wouldn't like that person anyways and you would report them for the littlest thing, maybe you would like them and you would laugh at the ggez. Since you don't know em, you create a personality based on the littlest data, and if all you have is a "ggez" to go off of, you're gonna say fuck that guy probably. If they were cool in game, it might change your reaction.

However, if someone says it really does make them mad, of course you're gonna have variations. Maybe it does piss some people off. To those people, I don't know what to say. Maybe think about what I said, and find the real reason why it makes you mad. It might help you to brush it off easier.

(upvoted you... I don't know why someone would downvote your factual post)

Teralisan2 votes

ummmmm.... no, saying "gg ez" isn't just going "Hey enemy, you were boring!" it's saying, "Hey, team, you were bad!" all at once. An "ez" game is one where no effort was spent on the winners side no matter how much was spent on the losers side. And frankly, seeing it even if I am on the winning side is genuinely annoying to me.

PaladinNO2 votes

It's unsportsmanlike behaviour, and thus reportable under "Negative Behaviour". https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/csKc4u0W-is-saying-gg-ez-being-toxic?comment=0009

It's simply a rude thing to say.

Zaryelle2 votes

It doesn't make me angry, but it often highlights the ignorance of the person saying it. Two examples come to mind:

  1. People saying ggez when it was actually a really close match, I can only hope they're joking. Close matches are somewhat rare so it's pretty odd when I see someone doing that.

  2. People saying ggez during games where you had people int feeding or bots on your team. I had one game with 3 bots on my team and the other team had only one bot and they barely won. Each bot had 24+ deaths yet me and the other human almost won. Of course ""ggez" at the end. Good job I guess you barely won against bots.

Master Noct2 votes

See the problem with 'GG EZ' is that no one likes it, except the users themselves. In ANY game, saying 'EZ' is just the hallmark of being a douche in-game to those not on your team, regardless of how 'good' you are.

Scenario 1) Game has gone over 60 minutes, teamfights are very tied, objectives being taken on both ends of the game. After one fight that took what it felt forever to finish, the red team messes a key play up and they all die. Blue team rushes in and takes their base, spamming 'EZ', even after getting absolutely beat sometimes, and having such a long game, and having a hard time winning at all. Red team gets upset because everyone on the Blue team said 'EZ AF'. Why? Because they had fought for so long, and so tiredly, they made a mistake (remember, humans are things), and your team being your team decided to rub it in against them, and make them feel bad because you took it like it was 'EZ' (even though you knew it wasn't).

Scenario 2) Blue team has 2 people AFK after going 0/3 in their lanes, Red team pushes in hard because there's little pressure in those lanes, team starts collapsing and since they couldn't catch up to cover for the missing spots, they lose. Cue the 'GG EZ'. Blue team gets really upset because they were at a disadvantage and yet you decided to mock them for it, bragging your cheap Victory in their face.

Scenario 3) Bot lane on both sides are matched up, fighting to the death, heals going around, flashes too, Red team makes a mistake and dies to Blue team's ADC. Blue team's ADC flashes mastery and says 'EZ' even though they almost died themselves, and using both summs to barely survive. Red team's ADC respond in a negative way because they think you're being toxic, and understandably so. They start playing a little worse, focusing more on answering to the childish behavior from the Blue team (which is a mistake to not be made), and die more and more, everytime having the Blue team's ADC spamming mastery, repeatedly saying 'EZ' in chat. Things go badly from there, lanes start messing up more often, and Red team loses. Incoming the 'EZ game'.

See the thing is, if you know the game was tough as hell, or was a cheap win because people refused to play as well as they could or wanted to, or because you decided to screw up someone's gameplay by being unsportsmanlike, then you don't say 'EZ'. Ever. I sometimes see people saying 'EZ' in ARAM matches, where some team goes full assassin/tank and the other ends up with all squishy targets, and they get completely steamrolled not because it was 'EZ', but because it was one-sided. Or in gamemodes that are supposed to be fun, like URF, or Nexus Siege, or One-for-All.

TL;D: Don't be a dick and say 'EZ', because even though you felt it was 'EZ', no one likes people that brag/are unsportsmanlike. I, or anyone else, is not entitled to what people can say, but it'd be really nice to not have someone that went 5/12/4 say 'EZ' at the end after getting roflstomped by that Soraka mid, to then so happen to pick up a lucky Double/Triple kill, and proceed to call everyone trash as they did.

Instead of being a dick, suggest some tips to those that seemed to have a hard time, and tell them about those times they did really well, and to practice more to get better. And when I mean suggest some tips, I don't mean suggest them ways on how to commit suicide, for the love of everything good in this world.

Terozu1 votes

Dude, your TL;DR needs a TL;DR.

Master Noct1 votes

TL;DR: Behave yourself

Is that good? Lolol.

Xurreal2 votes

At the end of the match, we are no longer enemies.

We are back to being Summoners. We might play with one another next game.

You shoot yourself in the foot if you insult an enemy and wind up with them on your team next game. And don't be the type to ask dumb questions in chat about you beating them last game cuz then they are not going to even want to play with you at all.

GGEZ...

Wind2342 votes

I personally don't like it because it makes the person saying it sound like a douchebag. It's just being an ass for no good reason, and rubbing a loss in someone's face. I usually don't report people who say it, though, only if they were being a douchebag all game and not just "ggez." It's obnoxious and unnecessary, and it kind of makes you look like an asshole.

It's one thing if you say it ironically, but it's tilting coming from the 13/0 Vayne who got fed early and shut the game down 20 minutes in. Like, it's not enough they completely curbstomp you into the ground, they gotta add salt in the wound that basically says, "hey, I didn't find you a challenge at all! I'm so glad I had fun and you guys didn't, thanks for the easy win!" And people try to defend "ggez" by saying people are "too sensitive." These people just wanna be assholes and not get called out on it. They're the jerk jocks of the high school known as life who think that just cause they actually didn't feed for one game they suddenly have the right to treat their opponent like crap. To these people, I flip them the bird and wish them a long drive off a short pier.

TL:DR - "ggez" makes you look like an asshole, and no one likes dealing with assholes.

Hanuchan1 votes

Same with me really

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

League players are extremely sensitive.

Master Noct1 votes

No, assholes are extremely insensitive.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Well, probably both.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

gg ez = I beat you and it was easy

Master Noct1 votes

I found some of the poison guys.

MyBotFunnelsYou1 votes

Most of the time I couldn't care less about post-game chat...but there are some games where it just rubs me the wrong way if I see someone saying "GGEZ". Regardless, whoever says "GGEZ" earns an auto-report from me(Yes, this includes teammates and even premades assuming they feel like trolling). It is just extremely poor sportsmanship and absolutely not needed.

I WISH Riot would actually punish this...

Terozu1 votes

They do...

Hanuchan1 votes

I get really tilted when people say ggez or just ez because ok maybe the game was easy for them but not for me, how can you be so inconsiderate and then brag about it. That's why it tilts me anyway.

Raoul1 votes

I just report it whenever it happens, my team or enemy team, doesnt matter, if I see people throwing insults, i report them.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

If calling someone a %%%% repeatedly is not punishable, then ggez shouldn't be.

Xurreal1 votes

Disrespectful to their hard efforts.

Also it shoves the already tilted.

Discourages spirits, incites individuals and members to rage and spread negativity.

Unnecessary.

Whao i didn't catch this. This is a necro.

Please don't necro-post.

Strilter1 votes

Because saying GG after a 4 v 5 is something resorted to by idiots... If the game was obviously skewed you shouldn't say GG and especially not EZ because imo that's gaslighting. The game obviously wasnt a good one becaause the sides were not even, or something went wrong to snowball it so it was not fun for half the players.

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