I don't get paired with honorable players, so I can't be honorable.

Tolinar·2/23/2020, 8:12:31 AM·1 votes·2,723 views

I hate your system, Riot. I hate it and everything it stands for. The entire game would be better off without an Honor system, because I get treated like crap either way.

When you first launched Honor, I quickly got Friendly, then Mentor and then Leader. But then eventually I got mad at someone who trash-talked me, and that was the end of it all.

People call me racial slurs and I get mad too. You have created a culture where people vomit their failures and frustrations over everyone else, and it only leads to more of the same. You have so many bad examples that you have no way to control it.

Everytime I think it's okay to start communicating again, your community shows me that I'm wrong. This is why I quit sometimes. Your game is fun to play.

But your community is UTTER TRASH.

And by cursing people who communicate on this level as "Dishonorable" you just frustrate people and promote the problem. This doesn't fix anything. The 40% of people who don't actually care about the game, earn Honor rewards. Anyone who pays attention to the chat eventually loses their temper and gets stuck in the Prisoner's Island of locked honor.

You don't believe me? ... Then why don't most of your players have Honor markings on their banners? They're so rare.

Without the Honor system, at least I wouldn't feel like crap also. I don't get keys and I get ridiculed by the system for losing my temper. Your structure of account bans and stuff clearly doesn't work at all, people just make a new account and start over. If anything, this adds to the problem as Yet More Smurfs end up in low ELO games, adding frustration and ruining the play balance.

How many times do I need to be told to kill myself, called awful names, or just plain yelled at, before I'm allowed to be angry too? It's human nature to get upset when someone is upset at you, and this game beats it into you like a drum. The worse you play, the more likely you will draw the frustrations of whoever else is losing, or anyone who feels like you're going to cost them a win.

And at what point is this communication bad? Is telling someone, repeatedly and loudly that they are playing badly, too negative? What about complaining that you're definitely going to lose?

Why is this type of behavior classed exactly the same as encouraging suicide and calling people homophobic slurs?

I'll say it a third time. Your system doesn't work and I hate it. It's the reason why I quit every now and then. You issue a chat ban because I got angry - at a team that was angry at me. If you keep playing, you'll eventually be the butt of a game. And when that happens, you had better pray the people who lose are angels, because if not, they'll draw you into the exact same type of behavior yourself.

You know, it's very telling that when you show people the chats that led to their restriction, you don't show the chat comments of the other players. Without the context of 4 other players raging at me, it's hard to even tell why I was moderated. In fact, if you look at my last three games, I mostly talked about specific plays - but each chat had 1 or 2 curse words in it.

Is that all it takes to get chat restrictions?

Cursing a single time?

Over and over I get to Honor 1, and then immediately go back to 0. I get to Honor 1, decide to start talking, and voila - the game puts me at 0 because I cursed once or a team drew me into complaining about someone. Usually, someone complaining at me first.

12 Comments

Joe 2nd2/23/2020, 9:21:00 AM7 votes

All I see that you are part of problem. You talk about how toxic community is, but you are toxic aswell. Don’t blame it on others.

Mianta2/23/2020, 9:53:12 AM5 votes

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When you first launched Honor, I quickly got Friendly, then Mentor and then Leader. But then eventually I got mad at someone who trash-talked me, and that was the end of it all.

You issue a chat ban because I got angry - at a team that was angry at me.

You imply you're a victim, and yet try to justify doing what they do to you in return. That's called hypocrisy, my friend, and it's not a good quality to have. I get it, the community is cancer and full of jerks. So you just have to do your best to zone out the toxic players and do your own thing. Sometimes I have to mute everyone when I know I'm playing awful and am bound to get harassed. It saves me from a ton of anger & frustration. I suggest you do the same. Getting to honor 5 isn't difficult whatsoever; it just takes forever to get.

Saezio2/23/2020, 10:53:09 AM4 votes

Why the fuck is your chat enabled if you have such a hard time with chat? Just disable it and be done with it. You will enjoy the game without the community's input. How on earth is it so hard for you to do this?

NateThePunk2/23/2020, 9:18:00 AM4 votes

Brah I've gotting Honor 5 4 times in one season I don't know what your problem is. Don't flame and just play the game the best you can.

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Salty Mc Feed2/23/2020, 11:02:12 AM2 votes

What Riot has declared as the "good" way to behave is not actually what the majority does.... basically it's based on naive wishful thinking and unrealistic ideals. But their system can only work properly if the principles actually match what I would call the average behavior. The average behavior does not match Riots unrealistic vision of the always positive, never negative, almost unemotianal and completely altruistic perfect human being.

It's part of human nature to express negative opinions. Riot expects you to never do that and they go as far as to tell you that the community does not tolerate any negativity which is a blatant lie, because everyone sometimes wants to express an opinion that might be not recieved positively.

Kei1432/23/2020, 11:57:26 AM1 votes

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You don't believe me? ... Then why don't most of your players have Honor markings on their banners? They're so rare.

Honor flairs only show up after you hit h3+ and was honored by a stranger or 2+ premades in the previous game.

Since the h2+ players got their honors reset at the start of the season, it is no suprise that many of them haven't hit h3 yet. Or like me, I'm grinding for TFT right now and TFT games don't count towards honors, so my honors is not progressing.

Subdue2/23/2020, 5:55:26 PM1 votes

“No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.”

-Calvin Coolidge