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Gwyneth Windsor··29 votes·12,937 views

I really enjoy playing and I’m glad I found this game but it’s really frustrating to hear things such as ‘she’s just a feeder, report her,’ ‘go back to bots,’ ‘worst insert champion name here ever.’ The learning curve is very steep between bots and humans. Regular PvP games should be an opportunity to learn but how can you learn when once you make a misque you are left on your own? The answer isn’t to retreat to bots constantly which I’ve done after being made to feel generally unwelcome. Not all of us have months or years under our belts and are simply trying to learn, grow and have fun. Please be patient. We are doing the best we can.

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Ekitaih5 votes

Not all of us are like that! Just enjoy the game and forget the haters. Sometimes it helps to queue up with others. I’ve made a lot of friends on League over the years. So it’s easy to find five man groups. Sorry the community can be pretty rough sometimes. Just comes with Online gaming, unfortunately. Especially competitive gaming. Just keep your head up and keep on working on getting better! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Saezio4 votes

Just take OP under your wing for a couple dozen matches. Help them improve a bit in a safe environment.

Ekitaih1 votes

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Just take OP under your wing for a couple dozen matches. Help them improve a bit in a safe environment.

True. If the OP wants to add me, that’s fine. I don’t mind playing with new people. OP you’re welcome to add me and ask to play anytime I’m on! [slayer-jinx-wink]

R107 Games4 votes

Use the mute feature to block their chat. Ignoring and growing thicker skin also helps in the long-term

Madjack016 votes

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Use the mute feature to block their chat. Ignoring and growing thicker skin also helps in the long-term

Unfortunately you have no influence over flamers growing a thicker skin so they won't be tilted by just about anything. If toxic people only learned to stay cool.

Ph03n1xb1rd2 votes

Well, you do what YOU can do. And what YOU can do is grow a thicker skin. Ofc it would be better if butthurt people would not get butthurt by one mistake, but you cant control that.

MrZalgo1 votes

Usually toxicity only helps the user grow a thicker skin if they continue playing the game. Think of it like "I have heard far worse insults from that toxic Malphite than whatever the hell Soraka is saying." type of mentality.

It's how I got used to league toxicity so damn fast because of a time I decided to play Sombra ranked in Overwatch despite being really good at her.

Moñarch1 votes

dont know why people are bashing you. If u play a multiplayer game and expect everyone to be super nice and happy you shouldnt be playing. If you cant take the fact that some people will tilt then dont play...

Gwyneth Windsor1 votes

I realize that but 30 minutes straight of abuse is crap. I ended up the 5th with 4 friends. They knew where they wanted to be. Claimed top, mid, bot and jungle. I’ve never played support but I tried my best. Went down to bot to try to support. I was told ‘I called bot. Leave.’ The mid asked for help so I went to try to help and was told ‘I didn’t ask YOU for help. Don’t lie.’ Then top chimed in and said don’t bother coming up here. At a certain point I asked if I should just stay at the base because I clearly couldn’t do anything right. The response? Yes because I was the stupidest Kog’maw ever. I’ve faced this type of behavior a few times when paired up with 3-4 friends. There is tilting and then there is flat out abuse. Telling me not to play or assuming I’m being overly sensitive is an unfair characterization.

Kei1432 votes

Low level games are a cesspool of toxicity as the people who got banned and are starting new accounts. It gets better as you play more, since those toxic people don't change their ways and get banned again.

Saezio2 votes

./muteall at the beginning of each match is your best shot. Now I know this sounds harsh especially for a new player that would ideally like the rest of the team giving feedback but League community consists of very insecure people that like to bash others over their skills on a video game. You should also report every person that makes you not enjoy the match, it sounds vindictive but the report feature is there for this reason. And if those dipshits can't even keep their cool in a normal game we are all better off without them.

Gwyneth Windsor4 votes

I hate the idea of muting but ultimately I’ll need to sometimes. This game should be a team game and it’s hard to be a part of the team when everyone is muted. That being said, true I could report. I hate going that route. I know many people have invested a lot of time and money into it and I don’t want to be the reason someone would get banned. It’s not that I’m a crybaby because I’m not. In games I do well in I see it happen to others. It’s a shame it happens so often or to so many others.

14daysuspensionk2 votes

It's mostly about learning gameplay, try to ignore the toxic assholes.

AIQ2 votes

I wish there was some solution I could tell you, but this will happen even if you were challenger. You can't have bad games. All I can say is try to be the difference you want to be, and don't fight back. Simple things like "I know I'm not the best", and "I really want to learn this champion" could perhaps put a more positive spin on it might help, but overall your best option for learning new stuff is with friends that are okay with dealing with those growing pains.

Gwyneth Windsor2 votes

Even if you try to say that they don’t seem to care. In an ARAM game I got a champion I haven’t even faced. I view ARAM as stepping outside my comfort zone. From the get I said I hadn’t played the champion before. I got ‘that’s a tank. Clearly you aren’t a team player. Can’t you read your abilities?’ The thing is the more someone attacks you the worse you play. Or at least me. The more I get attacked I forget everything I do know. In champions I feel comfortable with I can do okay. Got my first S- rank today which I’m pretty darn proud of. But I also know I can’t just learn one or two which is the goal of ARAM. I guess mute will be the way to go when I play it. Thanks guys! Good to see helpful players out there!

AbiwonKenabi2 votes

Once you get past about ~level 12, it gets better. The toxic smurfs lose interest and stop playing as much or else their MMR gets adjusted away from yours, and then you are actually playing with mostly legitimate level 12ish, same as you. Hang in there.

Curious Kat2 votes

Unfortunately league is not very newbie friendly. My best suggestion is to make some friends, and play the game with them. There will be no "real flaming" and the matches will feel generally more relaxed and fun to learn in.

And when that's not really an option the best thing to do is mute all, and focus on your mistakes. Even if the match loss is not your fault, there is always something you can improve on.

Focus on CS, map awareness, warding, positioning, etc. Even in the most hopeless of matches you can still improve yourself a tad bit every match.

I always find myself going " i should of done this, or shouldn't of done that, or i should of positioned myself there" blah blah. Iv'e been playing for YEARS and i mess up every match in one way or another if not many ways.

I struggle with CS, since I'm a "Kata Main", most picks these days the only option i have is to just not die, and wait for good chances to roam, or a good solid gank. So recently iv'e focused ALOT on map awareness/vision so i know when to roam, or when my jungler is gonna go balls to the wall on a gank. It helps make up my CS i lose in the beginning.

But yeah man, it sucks that people are like this in this game, but just focus on yourself when it's those kinds of matches, and try to better whatever little thing you can that way it's not a TOTAL stomping. You will at least come out of that match going "ill never make that mistake again" or "ill do this that way next time" blah blah.

Good luck friend!

The23rdGamer2 votes

League has plenty of toxic players that are constantly rude and crude (especially under level 30 because that's where lots of smurfs and people who just got their account banned play, which is incredibly unfortunate for genuine new players who aren't toxic) but there are some of us who are nice too!

Best thing I can recommend to you is to stick it out for awhile because some of the toxicity of lower levels does disappear once your account is a higher level (although it never fully disappears) and to try and befriend some of the nicer players you see. Having a premade group of nice friends to queue with can make League a much more enjoyable experience!

Welcome to League! [vlad-salute]

Karunamon2 votes

The best thing that helps this, I find, is to get a regular group of people to team up with. Playing in 5 stacks eliminates the ability for you to get matched up with someone who's being a jerk.

Sent you a friend request ingame :D

Lemexis2 votes

Unlike some other people I think that using "mute all" isn't a good idea, because there are still good people playing LoL and that will want to message you simply to be friendly (saying "wp" or "need help ?" or something), or trying to give you advice. And sometimes there can also be -friendly- banter, totally different from flaming, which can actually make the game even more fun.

For example, I never flame people unless they flame first (and even then I generally just mute and report), and when I see someone struggle or make mistakes that may cost us the game I simply point it out in the most polite and friendly manner I can. And if they ignore me, I just don't mention it anymore - some people don't want to improve and just want to relax, and I'm completely fine with that.

And when I see someone being flamed at, I tell them to mute the offender, and I think some people feel relieved that at least someone in their game (I also say it to people on the enemy team) is friendly, so you would also be missing out on that.

So yeah, just mute people the second they show the tiniest hint of toxicity. And mute their signals and emotes too ! Those are normally very important since it's a team-based game, but I found that toxic people care more about flaming than winning, and so they'll spam signals for stupid reasons.

It's a shame you're playing on NA, I would have added you, I actually am looking for beginners to play with and that share my "zero-tolerance for toxicity" policy.

**TL;DR: don't mute all because you're missing out on friendly chat and advice. Mute someone the first time he says something you don't like. And when you do, don't just mute chat, mute signals and emotes too. **

OlympusSworn1 votes

While I can't save you from toxic people, there is something I can do :) If you want, add me, and I can teach you a bit. Im totally tilt proof (promise!) and I know a fair amount about almost every champ, so I might be able to help you out!

Gwyneth Windsor1 votes

Thanks for the offer OlympusSworn! I’ve sent a request. I don’t have many friends in the game yet so any knowledgeable player is a great ally!

GankLord1 votes

I think Riot should bring ribbons back to indicate new players that being said that isn't a patch for bad behavior. Probably the worst season to start LoL toxicity is at an all-time high. I would also recommend staying away from jungle for now unless you're into BDSM. I probably should be more "Were not all like that" but honestly it's too much. The best piece of advice I can give you is that the minute someone starts with you mute them.

FeederIee1 votes

I think Riot should bring ribbons back to indicate new players

Flawless system these ribbons

which one was the int feeding one that you got for being helpfull when the enemy team honored you ?

Yellow i think it was yellow

Kattzy1 votes

I am so sorry you're encountering toxicity (especially as a new player). I personally am so happy whenever I meet someone new - I want more people to play the game I love! It can be a really intimidating learning curve so having the support of your teammates can make a huge difference in your desire to improve rather than just go play something else. I hope you find some nice people to play and learn with. The haters are mostly people whose previous accounts got banned (for toxicity, trolling, etc. so you can see where the attitude comes from) and smurfs (who for some unknown reason enjoy stomping new players and telling them they're bad). Definitely friend the nice people and queue with them! Good luck, have fun <3

Nimblepaw1 votes

I can't reccomend mute all more. I got a penalty today just for responding in a non-happy, but non abusive way to being cussed out -w-

MrWasjig1 votes

Safe yourself the trouble, and don't get invested. Find another game to play.

No I'm serious. The hardship and struggle necessary to play this game is not worth the payout.

kira helion1 votes

Make friends. Play with friends. That way at least some people on your team will be supportive.

Good luck on the climb

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