Had someone literally cussing me out, told them to Frick off (but not the pg 13 way) they reported me and I got a 10 game chat restriction wow. League's system for penalties is like a school no fight tolerance policy. Get punched in the face/some1 inting/cussing you out? Both get a restriction unless you pretend that you're fine and move on.
GatekeeperTDS3 votesSorry dude, you didn't get punished for one game of telling someone to fuck off.
Makattack3 votesRegardless of anything else, the title actually is great advice.
Umbral Regent1 votesTell me, what good does it do to respond to toxicity in kind? What benefit is there to flaming someone back?
Yes, there's the obvious of personal satisfaction, but that's not enough to outweigh the fact that you're just exacerbating the toxicity by adding to it.
Gabriyel1 votesUsually I only reply if some1 blames me for a play by telling them watch replay what actually happened was X, and if they're at fault they take that as me flaming them.
Umbral Regent2 votesI didn't ask how you replied to flamers, I asked what good does it do to reply to them.
Gabriyel1 votesAnd I told you, encourage them to double check what actually happened, so they can learn in that scenario
Umbral Regent3 votesIf they're flamers, they don't care what actually happened. What they care about is releasing their vitriol on whoever they think is most deserving of it, for whatever reason they can drum up.
And responding to them, telling them to "watch the replay", or "fuck off", etc., is just going to agitate them and exacerbate the problem. It won't help anything. That's why both parties get punished for flaming and fighting with one another - even if Player A started it, Player B is just making shit worse by continuing it.
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Tell me, what good does it do to respond to toxicity in kind? What benefit is there to flaming someone back?
Yes, there's the obvious of personal satisfaction, but that's not enough to outweigh the fact that you're just exacerbating the toxicity by adding to it.
I mean I've told someone to stop being toxic and leave me and others as well, and i got a restriction for it. It's just an unfair system, I'm really just tired of people not realizing that and saying it works perfectly as intended. My friend who doesn't play LOL even said "overwatch and lol have some of the worst punishment systems" yes he has done some research and he knows about leagues system. But the point is that you're too caught up in the "i never say anything so it's a perfect system" this may sound a bit toxic and it kind of is. I hate the system and i think it needs a change, I'd love to see it changed, and it frustrates me when people say it is fine because it really isn't. But say what you want, argue against me all you want, i have all i need to know to know that it isn't a great system.
Hotarµ3 votesI mean I've told someone to stop being toxic and leave me and others as well, and i got a restriction for it.
No you didn't, you got punished for stooping to that person's level and/or telling them off in a toxic way.
If you're civil and (at the very least) neutral, you'll never be punished.
yes he has done some research and he knows about leagues system.
No he doesn't, because if he did he would know that you don't receive punishments for doing things in neutral or positive ways.
But say what you want, argue against me all you want, i have all i need to know to know that it isn't a great system.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say the system is perfect or even great, but it's definitely good and gets the job done a large majority of the time. No system is without fault but the fact is that you don't receive punishments for neutral or positive behavior.
bluefire mark 21 votesNo you didn't, you got punished for stooping to that person's level and/or telling them off in a toxic way.
If you're civil and (at the very least) neutral, you'll never be punished.
No he doesn't, because if he did he would know that you don't receive punishments for doing things in neutral or positive ways.
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say the system is perfect or even great, but it's definitely good and gets the job done a large majority of the time. No system is without fault but the fact is that you don't receive punishments for neutral or positive behavior.
Mhm okay and does the system encourage you to not be toxic? Does it reduce toxicity? Is the system working? No. Because someone or your whole team start dissing you and you say a bit of telling them to leave you alone. Then what? You got banned and not the problem makers. Hmmmmm.. we all agree league has a very toxic community. So it's obvious the system isn't doing. It's god dang job.
0minous1 votesIt's true, I got a 2 week ban for talking back to someone who was flaming me. I don't even remember ever getting warned or chat muted prior to that.
Funny thing is I'd constantly get daily notifications and be congratulated about being such an amazing and honorable player that people love to play with (300% more honors and such), and then minutes later the ban claiming that the majority of players don't like playing with me and find me toxic. A little confusing and contradicting.
But anyways, ya gotta realize that league isn't a social game, so no point in trying to socialize in an unsocial game. It's best to rarely say anything or just give in game calls. Pings and "k" in chat is more than enough lmao. Think of it being like sitting in a tournament match. And if you want to be social, play some WoW or something. Where you get to chill & play and chat.
A game like league is meant to be antisocial, you just queue in with randoms, using each other for elo or whatever and then most of them ya won't be seeing ever again. So no need to talk to anyone. Else you can just call this game league of reporting.