The report system doesn't pick up indirect toxicity, which bothers the shit out of me.

Bolroy·Apr 20, 2018·4 votes·2,807 views

Which is also why we need manual reviews, just played a game where my gnar was doing everything he could to make me feel terrible because I didn't gank his lane, and usually when they type "XD", you know in reality, they're being a douche bag. It even comes to a point where they start flooding all chat with "Report Zac XD" and spreading rumors of shit I didn't do, and of course I further on get reported by multiple people. This has got to be worse than any other form of toxicity in my eyes, getting people from the enemy team to believe that you're the issue, when in fact he is. I dont know, it really fucking makes me upset and it happens all the fucking time. Too bad whenever I report someone for this, they always seem to continue playing.

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redniwediSApr 20, 20184 votes

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It's actually really simple.

if (reports > 0) { review(); }

Don't worry about multiple reports, Riot really doesn't care how many reports someone earns from a single game. The only part of a report that matters is it's validity.

Asking for reports, particularly in the way you describe, actually counts as harassment and you should use that report option when reporting people like this.

BolroyApr 20, 20181 votes

Good to know, thanks for the advice!

notoriouspencilApr 21, 20181 votes

The reporting system is so messed up, say you call a troll dumb cause he intentionally trolled your promo game, you report eachother, you get chat banned cause they see you called him dumb but he gets to keep playing cause there's no real proof he trolled other than that hes 0/12 which doesn't help cause you can't report for doing "bad"

redniwediSApr 21, 20181 votes

If you engage in name calling you'll get reported for name calling. You say it's messed up, but in all actuality it's working as intended.

If you don't do anything reportable you don't get punished.

notoriouspencilApr 21, 20181 votes

^^ 100% proves my point thank you

redniwediSApr 21, 20181 votes

Your point is that the original offender avoids the punishment. Nothing I said supports this, so you really shouldn't be thanking me.

Rules are rules. You don't have to like them, but if you don't follow them don't be surprised when it comes back to bite you.

notoriouspencilApr 21, 20181 votes

literally enforcing my point why do you think the systems so wack, I could go troll 20 games in a row if I wanted but because i didnt actually admit I was trolling its all g, but god almighty you call that person thats intentionally trolling you dumb ya better watch out lol

redniwediSApr 21, 20181 votes

I don't think the system is "wack". I think people don't understand the system, and make assumptions off of nothing but ignorance.

You are in the wrong for opening your mouth. He is in the wrong for trolling. They are separate issues handled by separate methods of detection, and both people will get what they deserve.

Don't be stupid, think it out before posting.

notoriouspencilApr 21, 20181 votes

Exactly why its wack in my opinion, and no he wont get what he deserves cause there's no proof of trolling, its so easy to bypass reports if you are intentionally trying to troll someone its ridiculous.

I've played this game since release I have a solid 6k games on my main acc, I've watched the community go downhill dude I'm not just making stuff up cause some guy trolled my game

redniwediSApr 21, 20181 votes

Well, I started playing about six months after you did, so I've seen just about all the nonsense you have. I know what goes on in game, but I also took the time to look at how Riot is doing things.

I did say that trolling has a separate method of detection, and I didn't throw this in for no reason. Human behavior is just not something an automated system can judge accurately. A real person has to investigate and that takes a lot of time. To make sure their time isn't being wasted the bar is set pretty high for how many flagged games are happening, and that lets a lot of small time trolls slide for much longer than is ideal. They do get caught all the time, but it's not reliable.

Is it perfect? Hell no, and no one in their right mind would try to say it is. The problem here is that no one seems to have a better idea of how to do it. That's not to say there are no ideas, ideas are a dime a dozen, but the majority of them have either been tried before, cause far more problems than they fix, or are unrealistic in some way.

The current system isn't wack or broken or anything like that, it's working exactly as intended and in the best way it currently can. Suggestions for improvements are always welcome, but sitting there saying things are bad doesn't help anything.

Also the community isn't going downhill, it has always been like this since the very beginning. At least moving to the Boards was a massive improvement, which is saying a lot considering the content of the Boards.

notoriouspencilApr 21, 20181 votes

I don't expect it to be perfect in any way I just disagree with it and find it odd how you would get punished more severe for saying "dumb pick on going irelia adc in a ranked" than the irelia would get for intentionally trolling the ranked,

I'm just here to discuss it like we are, also I don't know about you but back in the day having fun playing league was working with your teammates to get the win, now literally having fun in a game is to troll. Like why do I have this ap ali jg in a competitive game, ali "I'm just having fun". I'm so over people saying that lol

redniwediSApr 21, 20181 votes

I still have fun when I play, so we're already on different pages.

Also calling the pick dumb wouldn't get you punished, and if it did you could request a punishment review and get it overturned. What Riot doesn't like is when you insult other players, they don't really care if you insult champions or events in the game.

Honestly, at this point in League I can't recommend solo queue to anyone. Just bite the bullet and play with a premade. No one cares about solo rank anymore, and playing with friends is always more fun than playing with random people.

ChermorgApr 20, 20182 votes

In addition to what the other user said, the report system can pick up on things like "XD spam" or lines with "XD" in them to appear non-toxic - but those are relatively minor and aren't going to get a punishment over one game unless it's extremely spammy. Your reports will however add to their record and potentially contribute to future punishments if this is a common thing for them.