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Rehab for Perma'd accounts.

SlickSmoothz·8/18/2016, 8:01:20 PM·1 votes·812 views

I'd like to start off by saying if you have never been perma'd then I don't think you belong here mainly because you probably can't empathize for why we did what we did.

Some people just get way too toxic, others go scripts. I got scripts because I felt stuck, Like I wasn't going anywhere and no matter what I did it wasn't changing. It was kind of driving me mad, to be not the reason you keep losing, to be the only one who doesn't feed, who rotates, who is all over objs, who is trying to get your team in the lead, who is telling your team that 4v5's can happen so they don't give up, who is constantly avoiding the negative and trying to stay positive to get into higher elo where you truly feel you belong. Never the less it would not work... every single time it felt like. I was stuck. After 6 and a half years of playing this game I threw a temper tantrum after losing to a few scripters. I felt like the only way to get out of plat elo was to cheat because let's face it honesty wasn't taking me no where. This was my mind set and it was the wrong mindset. I got scripts, only to shortly realize that my skill and decision making was better than these scripts. Those scripts were made for Bronze/Silvers/ and Low Golds.. Here I am stuck in plat 3 on the verge of dia without em. Going insane because I feel like I had to cheat to win a 1v9. Why do I feel the need to cheat if my skillz surpass these "scripts". I've calmed down by this point and deleted them. I don't need them. A week or two later... BOOM. Your account has been permanently suspended. (was kind of funny where my name use to be Goku and I was suspended til 9002, haha funny humor Riot. It's over 9000!)

Now I feel like I've just lost it all. A deep depression has set in. If only I didn't screw up and get these scripts. I hate cheating. I wouldn't even cheat in GTA San Andrea by my myself while trying to 100% the game. That is just me. I am sure there are others who went dark side because they felt angry and stuck. The point is after losing your account that you've built up since early in this game feels horrible. You're gonna have lots of sentimental value for it. I would like to suggest a Rehab Program for people like this. ( a kid gets caught stealing a dirty magazine from the "Adult bookstore" because he wants to see the goodies a little bit a head of time doesn't deserve life in prison.) Do a 1 or even 2 year ban. The rehab program could be something like where the violator has to submit their new account in some kind of watch and as long as they don't "violate" probation they get their account back at the end of their sentence.

There are gonna be a lot of players saying nah they don't deserve another chance. With plenty more to say. Well here is what I have to say to that... We've been putting our hearts into this game for a very long time. We just wanted an easier route to get where we were inevitably gonna get to. We messed up. Don't let that 0.001% of our 99.999% of the time we kept it legit damn us to an eternity of ban! A second chance is all some people need. After that second chance if they mess up again .. YEAH PERMA THEM! You tried to be respectable, you was the bigger man and gave that second chance, but you can't help someone who won't help them selves. I get it. Some of us just got lost for a moment out of the years of pouring our hearts into this game. I don't wanna lose my oldest accounts with all the stuff on it that most accounts won't have. I'm sorry for falling apart for a short amount of time. The Second Chance.. well doesn't everyone deserve a second chance?

13 Comments

TrulyBland8/18/2016, 8:19:42 PM12 votes

I'd like to start off by saying if you have never been perma'd then I don't think you belong here mainly because you probably can't sympathize for why we did what we did.

This right there, to be honest, reveals that you haven't really changed your mindset. It's still all about you. You refuse to acknowledge that this suggestion is also relevant to the innocent bystanders that are affected by scripters. You try to make it seem like you're making a stand for others who did mistakes like yours, but at the same time you accuse other scripters of being the reason why you started it yourself.

I don't believe for a second that this post is about 2nd chances, or Riot being the "bigger man". This is about you still trying the easy way to acquire what you want and your inability to accept responsibility; be it for your rank, or the permaban you got.

Either way: As it stands, apparently a permaban is not yet enough of a deterrent to scripters. So I don't quite see how lowering the punishment will be helping. And I don't think that Riot should cater to the tiny minority that break the rules, at the potential expense of the majority that plays by the rules.

Stephenizgod8/18/2016, 8:17:23 PM4 votes

If you were overly Toxic, but learned to stop, I would understand. If you intentionally fed out of rage, but understood why that was wrong and changed, I would understand. But Cheating I do not understand for any reason whatsoever. This is a game of skill, cheating is probably the worst way to effect the other 9 people in the game as there is nothing they can do about it. If someone is being Toxic, you can mute them. If someone is intentionally feeding, there are ways to work around them. If someone is cheating... you can only hope they suck so bad the cheats don't do anything. That is about all you can do.

I have had toxic ragers and intent feeders, but you sometimes can work around that and if not, well at least you can say you performed your best. When I have faced cheaters, the feeling of anger and resentment for them is beyond anything else. My personal performance at that point is null and void since someone is cheating so skill is irrelevant.

I have been stuck in Silver for 3 Seasons, finally getting to Gold V last week. Not once did I ever consider cheating because I knew there was always something I could improve in myself. I also knew i had the ability to get to Gold it was just a matter of time. You are stuck in Plat? Who cares? Its better than being in Silver or Bronze where they not only have no skill, but also no knowledge, decision making, and no clue that they are the problem not everyone else.

I am sorry but i have no sympathy for cheaters. You have the ability to make a new account, I hope you can Rank up without cheating. Only then will you prove you are truly sorry for cheating, it won't get you your account back but if you are truly regretful that wouldn't matter.

Astôlfo8/18/2016, 9:31:31 PM4 votes

"I'd like to start off by saying if you have never been perma'd then I don't think you belong here mainly because you probably can't sympathize for why we did what we did."

There is no need to sympathize. You dug your own grave. You don't need a rehab. You had 4 chances to rehab. You didn't take them, your fault. You're not wanted in the community.

Zombiemaster8/18/2016, 8:22:41 PM3 votes

I'm sorry, but cheaters do not deserve a second chance. It is one of the worst things you can do to ruin the game for other players as it throws skill directly out the window. You knew it was against the rules, and you say that cheating is not you, yet you did it anyways. The reasons for doing so are completely irrelevant.

If you want to continue playing, then your only choice is to start a new account. You will not under any circumstances be getting back your banned account. That's just the way it is. It's time for you to take responsibility for your actions and not just look for an easy way out.

Kaioko8/18/2016, 8:04:34 PM1 votes

I mean you do get a second chance, it's called making another account. Yes you lose everything you've put into the first including all the money you've spent, but that's what happens when you break the rules - you accept the consequences and then you move on. Welcome to the world of being an adult.

I realize that it's a bit harsh but I'd rather tell you the truth as it is.

SlickSmoothz8/18/2016, 9:07:08 PM1 votes

I understand all of your pov. Look, not giving a second chance to get these accounts back is pretty good punishment. People do learn from their mistakes tho. Why not do a 1 or 2 year ban, that's a pretty good ban too. If they come back and do the same mistake then perma them, hell IP ban them(this sounds efficient) . Kick them out completely. That would slowly start getting rid of scripters, and repeated toxic offenders. Slowly but surely. (people still can have a thought process of well I've done lost all my accounts, I will just keep making more.) I would be willing to bet on that. Now me being a gambling man I Know I'm not gonna make this mistake again whether a 2nd chance is implemented or not. Not for those stakes. I've already been lvling a new account. I'm just glad to still be playing.

Desolas Arterius8/18/2016, 9:16:29 PM1 votes

I would have agreed with you, but I cannot and will not ever sympathize with cheaters. This doesn't have anything to do with toxic behavior or reforming players who have a chance to come back (despite them being given 4 chances to change their behavior.. but that's another discussion). This is trying to avoid the punishment for cheaters, people who purposefully ruin the game for 9 other players.

I am not here to attack you or be rude, but you have to realize no one can feel sorry for you since you cheated and broke the ToS you agreed to. It doesn't matter what justification you can think of to make yourself feel better about cheating. It's wrong and you knew it, yet still did it despite knowing the severe punishments it can bring.

Riot has no reason to give accounts back to cheaters or nor should they. This should never be up for discussion in order to protect the integrity and fun of playing the game. It's challenging for a reason. So you can push yourself and watch yourself improve in skill through your own hard work and merit. If you want a second chance then you'll have to create a new account and start over again. It sucks I know, but imagine how the other players felt playing with or against you while you used scripting systems to cheat.

What is the point of playing any kind of game if all you do is cheat at it? How can that be fun for you or anyone else around you?

I hope you realized the error of your ways and never cheat again. Especially in an online game where you play with other people just like you; struggling to continue to improve and ultimately win.

Good luck and best wishes.

Maximum Morde8/18/2016, 8:18:55 PM1 votes

If it was my company, I'd sell amnesty tokens in the RP shop for 20$ a pop. They'd only drop your punishment 1 tier though. So next time you got punished you'd just be perma'd again.