How accurate is the reporting system?

Otara·Nov 26, 2015·2 votes·1,097 views

League of Legends will lock toxic players out of its new crafting and loot system

If anyone/everyone can honor/report anyone else, who's to say that information is accurate? If the "guy" having a bad day reports everyone after every game simply because he can and he's mad, and there so happens to be multiples of that "guy" reporting everyone, innocent people would receive warning boxes while they're queued up for another match. This could happen especially to someone who attempted to stick up for another person. I would hope this would be something Riot has thought of, considering I hear tales of new ways to punish toxicity. Or rather to exclude the people who exhibit "toxic behavior" from bonuses. See the attached links for the aforementioned story.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/24/9793694/league-of-legends-crafting-loot-system-toxic-players-hextech-2016-update

15 Comments

SkadeglädjeNov 26, 20151 votes

Riot have stated that the warnings are separate from punishment. The warnings are simply a message to tell the player that they have received a spike in reports but does not in itself have any other consequences. Riot's systems will scan any reported players/games for toxic chat, feeding, trolling etc and issue a ban or restriction if the report turns out to be true.

So, if PlayerWithABadDay reports you and you didn't do anything wrong you might get a warning but no punishment.

ShonjlNov 26, 20151 votes

It also matters by who is reporting too, if JoeShmoe that is tilting is reporting everyone in every single game, he will quickly find his report weight will become 0 very quickly, or even get punished himself, most companies usually punish people if they abuse something too much, moreso if it can actually harm other players.

Likewise someone that barely reports or each of their reports has been accurate will find they have very heavy weight to them. I have had weeks where I wouldn't say a word in game since its usually safer that way and the one game I do get a little overboard, see myself getting a warning for it, this is most likely due to heavy weight reports.

All in all I wouldn't worry about anyone that does that, their vote power is most likely none already and if you don't get reported too much(IE get the warning too often) you won't get reviewed so you can't be punished.

qetzelNov 26, 20151 votes

The punishment system has a very low rate of false positives. The last I heard was 1/6000 punishments (of which the vast majority are chat restrictions) are undeserved.

So a quick calculation. The statistic from just over a year ago was that 5% of players were considered toxic. 27 million average daily players. That means 1.35 million toxic people. Assuming all of them get punished, that leaves 225 false positives overall. These are going to be chat restrictions given that Riot has certain levels of punishment.

I'm willing to take that. You have basically nothing to worry about.

This is 225 false punishments. These have nothing to do with the warnings. They is automatic. It just lets you know that you have been reported a lot recently. All reports are verified by Riot's system, so false report do not count towards punishment. Everybody is fine if they aren't toxic.

COBRA C0MM4NDERNov 27, 20151 votes

A warning is just a warning...but think of getting reported like earning a snowflake.

you earn enough snowflakes and it becomes a snowball. Riot then comes by to see why this little snowflake became a snowball and notices the reasons why it got big.

That's when they move punishments up a notch in hopes you reform and become a valued member of the community.

when you get enough reports for being an honorable and decent member of the community, you get rewarded for that.

when you're exceedingly bad or awesome you'll get appropriately rewarded for that.

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

How are you guys seemingly so knowledgeable about something Riot isn't transparent about? Riot doesn't reveal this information to players. Admit you don't know and move on.

Deep Terror NamiNov 27, 20154 votes

They have released this information. Go look for it for god's sake. Ask Lyte himself on his ask.fm page; there is nearly every bit of information you claim doesn't exist there.

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

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They have released this information. Go look for it for god's sake. Ask Lyte himself on his ask.fm page; there is nearly every bit of information you claim doesn't exist there.

Are you following my posts and harassing me? You said you was done speaking. Provide proof or reserve your thoughts for yourself.

Deep Terror NamiNov 27, 20152 votes

I looked at your history really quick to see if you had a habit of your poor behavior, and I saw you had another concern which I could help address. I was done with that thread, which is why I did not reply to it again. I did not reference it, you did. Drop it.

I provided you a very helpful link and you call it harassment. Wow.

Provide proof or reserve your thoughts for yourself.

I literally gave you the link right there. Go educate yourself.

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

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I looked at your history really quick to see if you had a habit of your poor behavior, and I saw you had another concern which I could help address. I was done with that thread, which is why I did not reply to it again. I did not reference it, you did. Drop it.

I provided you a very helpful link and you call it harassment. Wow.

I literally gave you the link right there. Go educate yourself.

You stated you "looked at my history." That is stalking, which is a form of harassment! Again, if you "dropped" it, why are you replying to me on ANOTHER POST? You posted a link for me to ask a question to Lyte. You did not present any links or information from Riot Games that supports your argument and opinions. Now, if you are done, be done, stop responding on posts after me, and I will no longer have a reason to respond to you nor try to insult your intelligence, as you did with me.

As Player Support likes to suggest, "if you have nothing positive to add in chat, don't type anything at all." Good day, sir or madam.

Deep Terror NamiNov 27, 20152 votes

Looking at history is stalking? Why is it public then?... If I looked through a year of your history and was commenting on lots of things, or kept doing it in the future, sure.

Lyte's ask.fm already has answers on it for you to look at, you don't need to ask again unless you need even more info...they are official Riot information and have more links in them for you. Seriously, everything you need is there on his page already answered in a Q&A format. There are many posts about it, I'm not going to quote them all when you can just go to the source.

You ask for information and I hand it to you, and you get offended...

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

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Looking at history is stalking? Why is it public then?... If I looked through a year of your history and was commenting on lots of things, or kept doing it in the future, sure.

Lyte's ask.fm already has answers on it for you to look at, you don't need to ask again unless you need even more info...they are official Riot information and have more links in them for you. Seriously, everything you need is there on his page already answered in a Q&A format. There are many posts about it, I'm not going to quote them all when you can just go to the source.

You ask for information and I hand it to you, and you get offended...

Sir or madam, I did visit your link. Lyte was answering questions with "it's possible..." Other questions didn't address my concerns at all. I scrolled through 3 pages before realizing that it was wasted time and energy to read comments that didn't pertain to my issues. I appreciate the link and I did create an account and asked Lyte 3 questions. Will see how thorough his response is.

A bit of advice, don't send someone information they have to search to justisfy your opinion. It's like telling someone to "Google it." If you don't have the information or willing to take the time to copy and paste information that DIRECTLY addresses a person's issue, don't offer an opinion nor suggestion. It only causes confusion because you don't have all of the facts present at the time of said debate/argument.

To clarify, I'm not offended by your statements, but by your ego to assume you are correct and then choose to insult me. You replying on another post with the same negative energy from your previous post was a red flag for me. Have you noticed that despite you attempting to insult me, I haven't insulted you in return?

Lastly, I don't know how old you are, but it's not the end of the world if someone disagrees with you. I could always be wrong, however that doesn't automatically make anything you say correct nor accurate. As the saying goes, "the proof is in the pudding."

Deep Terror NamiNov 27, 20152 votes

You'll have to do more than 3 pages of scrolling. Giving up does not mean it isn't there. I'm certainly not doing it for you after your behavior here.

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

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You'll have to do more than 3 pages of scrolling. Giving up does not mean it isn't there. I'm certainly not doing it for you after your behavior here.

I'll take that as your inability or refusal to present accurate information. Enjoy your day, sir or madam.

Deep Terror NamiNov 27, 20152 votes

Ya your refusal to read is my refusal to present the information lol. I gave you an encyclopedia and you don't want to open it XD

MalaceXNov 27, 20151 votes

If only I had the option to block you, kiddo. Last response. Find someone to harass, sir or madam.