If you call for a /ff 2+ times per game the system should punish

Demon King Maou·5/31/2018, 9:42:50 PM·1 votes·1,195 views

Everyone is downright salivating to get the loss quicker now and will spam /ff whenever it is available This demoralizes everyone else so it should start being automatically punishable by the system if it detects said player abusing the function Punishment Ex: Chat bans or some other kind of punishment

Its downright toxic and shouldn't be allowed ingame in any shape or form.

Now that being said i don't mind you calling for a /ff once or twice but spamming it every single time its available is just abuse of the system and is very wrong.

Anyways lets see how many downvotes i'll get for bringing this topic up [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

5 Comments

eaglei35/31/2018, 9:48:44 PM7 votes

I counter with that you should be banned for denying my FF vote more than twice and holding me hostage in a 99% chance to lose game.

In games I see, the demoralizing does not come from FF votes. It usually comes from other behaviors.

Umbral Regent5/31/2018, 10:05:36 PM3 votes

...but spamming it every single time its available is just abuse of the system...

No, it's not abuse. Abuse would be using a system for a purpose it was not designed for, (with the easiest example being using chat to flame people. That's abusing the chat system.) and putting up the Surrender vote at any available opportunity - while in some cases may be annoying - is not abuse.

Punishment Ex: Chat bans or some other kind of punishment

A chat restriction (not a chat ban, mind you, they're different things, and chat bans aren't used) would be an improper punishment for hypothetical Surrender Vote abuse. Let's come up with a hypothetical scenario.

You're playing a match. It's a losing match, you know it, your team knows it, your neighbor's dog knows it, it's an L. You try to Surrender, but for whatever reason, two people vote no. You've said nothing throughout the entire match, and you don't intend to say anything now. You've communicated entirely through pings (bravo on that purely hypothetical feat, by the way), so you just quietly wait until the next opportunity. Surely to god in 3~ minutes they'll see the match is lost, right?

You start another Surrender vote. Green. Red. Green. Red. Vote fails. So you just quietly continue playing until the next opportunity.

The enemy team has broken all but one of your Nexus turrets, and you only barely got through that last teamfight. You try one last time to get that Surrender vote through, because you're down to one turret, and the enemy still has their Inhibitor turrets up. Red. Green. Green. Red. Vote fails. The match drags on for two more minutes, and ends in your defeat.

CONGRATULATIONS! You've now been Chat Restricted despite not using the chat at all.

You're greeted to a reform card devoid of chat logs and the warning that further punishments will be harsher.

D'you see how bad of an idea it is to try and use chat-related punishments for hypothetical offenses that do not involve the chat?

Silent Gravity5/31/2018, 10:30:50 PM3 votes

Asking for ff, pressuring people to ff, or whatever is already considered negative by the system.

If they want to ff, the proper way to go about it is to initiate a ff vote.

Using the system to initiate a vote is the proper use of the system, not an abuse.

MAGA Trump MAGA6/1/2018, 2:03:38 AM2 votes

That is a downright terrible idea and here is why. If someone hits /ff every available time but still plays to help the team there is nothing wrong with that. They are allowed via system design to hit it every time it is available. If they spam surrender then AFK and say defeatist things then refuse to help the team then yes punish. Otherwise just ignore them.

Lost R6/1/2018, 2:08:29 AM1 votes

Everyone is downright salivating...

I think people are starting to pick up my vocabulary.

In fact... this entire thread reiterates what I said over a week ago.