Needing help coping with a ban

LLW9N4CcHS··3 votes·820 views

I originally posted this on reddit, but I don't know how they would take it, so I'm posting it here in hopes I can get some advice here and maybe if I'm lucky the attention of someone I can actually talk too.

I come to you guys in search of help and advice of some stuff regarding a permanent ban I have, and well I'm just trying to cope with it and maybe try to find a solution to get back into the game. I can cry about how much this game is involved with my social life and how much money I put into the game, but the ban was justified as I haven't been the nicest player in the world. There are excuses I can throw out for why I was behaving the way I was, but the truth is that I sometimes don't know how to keep my mouth shut and play this game as an 'escape from stress', when really its rather terrible for doing so. I sometimes realize my behavior is wrong after I burst out something, and then I jump back in to say 'sorry', but sorry doesn't cut it when you drop the moral of the team and already stain a bad mark onto the game. I'm just sort of asking for advice on how to cope with this and what to do. League has been my primary game and source of entertainment for a while now, and without it; it just kind of hurts. Its going to sound sad when I say this, but a lot of my social life does have activity in regards to this game and without it I just feel empty. I want to ask the League community two things, and thats how do I deal without playing this game? And is there any way I can make an appeal? The games in question where I was 'toxic' were not "go kill urself get cancer" it was more so me whining about stuff like fed yasuo, the team got udyr, or the most recent one was me dragging on a complaint of me hating premades too much. I know the old saying of "its just a game, don't take it too seriously", but this made me break down man, like I'm still shaking over it and its been three or four hours. I'm just looking for some support here from others that have been in the same situation. Thanks to all,

-Rose (Aradia Megido (NA))

I'm really trying to find the right forum for this, I really am trying to seek out help; even if its just someone to talk too. Im not sure this fits in with the rules here, but this is a player calling for some help from others, and even though I'm not entitled to anyone helping me, I really would appreciate it.

18 Comments

Dominick Destine1 votes

is there any way I can make an appeal?

No, you were toxic and therefore the ban is justified.

The amateur dramatics are meaningless because we know they are only crocodile tears.

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

Look, I understand this man. If its done its done, but I'm still freaking out over this, and I really have no idea what to do.

I get it, the last month or so I've been a shitty player, I have been overly vocal and even with the other warnings I still decided not to listen to them. There is a lot of time in my league history where I was good and not so bad, I'm not even asking for an appeal to be done now, but later down the road maybe.

I neversaid it wasn't justified.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Aradia Megido,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=er3cxWEb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-03-05T23:47:47.732+0000)

I get it, the last month or so I've been a shitty player

You have to have an extremely long pattern of consistent toxicity to get perma-banned.

You also get two chat restrictions and a 14-day suspension. Do not try to downplay your behavior. You are toxic and paid the price.

I'm not even asking for an appeal to be done

Well that seems reasonabl...

but later down the road maybe.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

Ok, I'm not arguing over the fact that I was toxic. Look, the last month or so, as this all started in January has been really shitty for me and well I've been taking out all frustration and stress into the game. I had a time in the past where I did this before, but after getting warnings/restrictions I slapped myself out of it. This time around I did not and it just lead to getting worse and worse. I'm someone who gets tilited easily and trys to find motivation to be a better players so I can catch up with my friends I have. Now, there is going to be a little bit of down playing as I'm trying to make a case here, I'm a human afterall and well it just sucks that I have problems keeping my mouth shut at times. Again, I said I have a ton of excuses for why I acted the way I did.

I put so much time and dedication into this account, and just knowing I don't have it hurts a lot. Like, I'm honestly scared about what my mind is going to have me do. This is my problem and not riots I understand.

I really do want to make an appeal, I know its not likely and I'm just crying the same stuff every other banned player says and the added dramatic effect does nothing for me. I don't have a lot of avenues to go to man. I couldn't even call a hotline to tell them why I'm upset as it just sounds so silly. but to me.....it just hurts.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Aradia Megido,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=er3cxWEb,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-06T00:07:35.158+0000)

I have a ton of excuses

Excuses are irrelevant.

I really do want to make an appeal

Toxicity bans are almost never rescinded and more egregiously; You don't seem to have learned your lesson at all .... if I were in charge of this, I would not rescind the order.

I was perma-banned in early season 2 because I was massively toxic. I started a new account and changed my ways. I have not been suspended again.... the takeaway from this is; I learned my lesson. Did you?

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

I don't think you are reading my full post, and you're just cherry picking my posts to make it sound like "RIOT BANNED ME GIVE ME BACK MY ACCOUNT NAO"

As you're obviously not reading my posts and not giving me useful advice I have no more care to what you have to say. I clearly stated I could list off a bunch of excuses but they did not amount to nothing, I clearly made a point that I'm trying to figure out what I can do as a person about this as well as see if there is ANYTHING in the future I can do.

Clearly I need some time to calm down and figure out some stuff outside of the game, and resolve it as there is something negative impacting me as a person. I have a large track record of being a nice player, but have had two time frames of just not being nice. Even when I'm toxic, the main offenses came with the 10 game restriction and I just had a few really bad eggs in between to just further the punishment down the run. The games where still bad, but its not like every game I would enter in and tell everyone to go kill themselves and die of cancer.

You're going to cherry pick this post and make it seem like I don't understand what I did was wrong and you're just going to talk down to me further more.

Dominick Destine1 votes

Let me put it in very simple terms; You will not get your account back. You are very toxic. You deserve your ban. LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. Become a better player... asking for your account back pretty much screams to everyone that you learned nothing.

Most of what you post is pure fluff so it is rightfully ignored.

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

FFS I get it. Shut up.

You don't even know the extent of how much of a fool I made myself those games. The last game that did me in, the final report if you will went down like this : Started the game, was a bit peeved at them being a premade; explained why I was (I ran on a little bit about them) and quoted some things premades did "Most premades Ive seen just tell me to f*ck myself and die of cancer". I was a bit negative about that, and I did want to encourage a surrender to the game.

Again, it makes no difference to you. You just see me as a toxic player, someone who is going to flame all day and has no regard for what they did. Words don't mean anything to you, its always black and white with no gray area in between. You have no idea how toxic of a person I am, maybe at first when I got the 10 chat restriction that snow balled all of this I was acting up really bad, but most of it was just be qqing and being a little baby and here is the thing I want you to know. I want you to know this line right here.

**I deserve the ban, because no matter what I say, the people I played with did not see me as someone they wanted to play with which is unfair for them and the League community. I don't think it was a severe amount of toxicity that hit the final nail or the one before the two weeks. The most 'severe' part was back in January when I had a chain of games where I was not having it with anyone. **

Man, I just don't want to lose everything I worked for. I'm just trying to find any way, even if its a year from now to get it back. I love that account, and I love this game a lot. I want to change to enjoy this game without getting in others way. I do want to improve which is why I need time away from the game, time to get the negativity out and deal with it like an adult rather than take it out in the game.

If you're just going to say "ur toxic, u deserved to be banned because you're bad" then don't bother responding.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Aradia Megido,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=er3cxWEb,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-06T10:58:23.301+0000)

You don't even know the extent of how much of a fool I made myself those games.

I don't need your opinion on it, I already know what I need to know; You got perma-banned.

You have to be very toxic for a very long time (Consistent pattern of intense toxicity) to suffer that punishment.

Again, it makes no difference to you. You just see me as a toxic player

And once again you reveal you've learned nothing.

I deserve the ban

That's right, but you do not think you do.

Therefore you do not acknowledge your behavior.

Man, I just don't want to lose everything I worked for.

You've already lost it, you had your chance.

I'm just trying to find any way, even if its a year from now to get it back.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Kei1431 votes

if you are having trouble not have LOL in your life, you can play another game to destress.

alternately, you are free to start another account. if other people's speech is part of the stresser, an instant mute (don't even bother responding to them) will help alot. if their actions are stressing you out, scream at the screen instead of typing it out.

finally realise that 40% of games you'll stomp. 40% you'll get stomped instead. and the remaining 20% of games you have influence over with your ingame decision making.

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

thank you very much, do you think if i make another account and stay positive on it for a while I have a shot at coming back on my old one?

Kei1431 votes

Not with the current rules.

whos knows what it will hold in the future. you can try to send them a support ticket now, asking for an appeal (and they will reject you for it), and then after a year, send them a follow up email, telling them to compare your old account against your new account's behavior, asking for an appeal again.

you never know, rules may have changed at that point.

Ben Sharpio1 votes

This post was similar to my feelings for the game. I love this game so damn much, even through the "toxic" community and what not. There's something oddly satisfying about this game. I would come home and be excited to play my favorite champion. Sion. Unfortunately, a couple of months ago, ( I think two now), i was given the temporary ban of 14 days for intentionally throwing a game. During the 14 days I was given plenty of time to think about my actions, and how i could become a better player and have less of a negative impact in games. During the 14 days, i was playing on a smurf account, literally not saying a word in-game to practice better morals, and develop a better sense of tolerance. But, without a doubt, it felt really unsatisfying not playing on my main account. After i was unbanned, i played many games without receiving a single report. I would be pissed off, but i had the **self control ** to stop myself from typing it. There would actually be times where i would be halfway through a disrespectful comment, and i'd cancel the message because i understood the risk of my account being banned permanently. In a situation like this, you should do what i did, and quit the game entirely. I stopped playing video games entirely on the 11th of February because i was literally addicted to League of Legends. I didn't really get much accomplished during my time playing the game. Now that it is the 6th of March, i still have the urge to play, i really do, but it's just another one of those sacrifices that you NEED to make. For the first week that i stopped playing the game, i couldn't stop thinking about it. But now that it's been a month, even my friends have noticed and have implied that i'm less of an asshole, i get more things accomplished, and I am more calm and more sociable. I think that your ban may serve as a lesson. Maybe you should take a break from League of Legends and focus more on other things. Maybe you like music, maybe you're like me and like to draw. Now that i think about it, as much as i "enjoyed" myself playing league of legends, i spent a lot of my time pissed off. Now that i've stopped playing I enjoy doing other things, but i still watch League of Legends videos just to...i don't know... stay updated on one of my favorite games. I think that if you choose to take a long break from the game like i am doing right now, you can develop the courage and trust in yourself over-time to make a new account, and start with a completely new mindset in the future and learn from your past mistakes... I don't know if I should get back into the game again though...

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

Thank you man, this advice means a lot to me. Its really hard for me to move away from the game as a whole, its like having your car be wrecked, its like sure you can buy another car; but you put so much time and money into this one that starting over just makes you feel kind of sick.

Thats actually the main thing I'm concerned with, I just don't want to lose all those things. Infact I didn't even know permabans could happen to someone like me just for rambling on about how bad certain champions are for the entire game or something, it really threw me in for a surprise.

Grindy4081 votes

Honestly, it seems to me that you depend too much on a video game. As far as making an appeal, I highly doubt that you will be unbanned, regardless of whether you change. My advice is to simply stop playing for a while. While I haven't ever been banned, there were a few times my laptop had to be fixed and I didn't have access to play video games for 3 months. Yeah, it sucked not to be able to play, but it was also very refreshing in a way. If you insist on playing, then create a new account and start from scratch, and be intentional about being a friendly player.

LLW9N4CcHS1 votes

im going to try my hardest man, there has to be a way.

WinBoat1 votes

Alright bro, I myself am pretty toxic, or was at least on my other account. My other account got over 6 back to back chat restrictions. I'd be getting off a chat restriction only to be reported again and placed on another one. I ended up being 14 day banned and that is far as it went for me as I soon made a different account which is this one. So yeah I risked being ban permanently.

Trust me, I know how you feel. I hate feeders too, I hate people who refuse to communicate, and people who intentionally pick bad champions like Bard, Shyvanna and Warwick and and most of all, I hate losing. However, losing happens, and that's the other side of the coin. You can't win them all, nor should you expect to. Nor should you expect the other players on your team to be good either.

Those excuses you said you have aren't really excuses, some are legit. I mean people baiting you to become toxic is a thing here, it happens everywhere, even in real life organizations and stuff like the Donald Sterling thing from the LA Clippers, and the Hulk Hogan racist rant and stuff. There is people out there who will try to piss you off. There is also people who play this game that don't care about winning, so they don't perform their best because so.

I think for me, it was about admitting "ok, I'll never be lcs cause I'm not fortunate enough to be matched with the right people to move up in ladders, and meet the right people in life". Also knowing these trolls, feeders and people who piss you off will never make challenger and stuff too is a good feeling, so they're going nowhere either and will remain at a low elo more than likely.

Just face it, you're going to lose some games no matter what. You're also going to win some games. Also use the report button honestly, just remain quiet, and just report these trolls, and yeah I'll call them trolls, even feeders, and not so skilled players who should really stick to playing bots until they are completely sure they are capable of playing against a real life human being, or just go play ARAM where it's "fun".

Sometimes badmouthing someone hurts their feelings, as I said I was so toxic, I nearly made someone quit the game right after the match cause he added me to tell me how hurt he was and that he was going to leave and never come back to league again cause of me. So I told him sorry and apologized completely to him and stuff, and told him I would try to better myself and not go crazy on future teammates who screw up. So he stayed thankfully, but I don't want to be the person to make someone quit league, i wish they could just improve and stick to bot games tho or ARAM matches, and especially never play rank with a champion that isn't level 4 or higher.

You can't have what want always. You should realize its not about you and your expectations, but more so about you trying your best and that's it. You can't really judge someone else honestly, people have bad games, I have terrible games and I consider myself the best player on this region and realize that not everyone will do as good as me, especially in this lower elo even where all my diamond friends are struggling to get out of bronze. yes a group of diamond players can't make it out of bronze.

So you shouldn't feel to bad, you could be a lot worse off, just make a new account, don't hold the high expectations anymore, don't even say much because I used to be so fricking talkative and stuff, just try your best. If you don't win, move on, you'll eventually win, the losers on the team will not go anywhere, so no need to badmouth them. Some people will acknowledge your performance. I have games where I lose but carry so hard the whole other team gives me honors....

If someone tries talking shit to you, just ignore them and report them. That's what they will do to you if you say anything back, so don't let them have anything to report you again. Yeah it's lame, you cant say anything cause Riot wants you to not defend yourself but only with the report button, but you are playing on their terms.

Lastly, take a break for a month or so, wait until Aurelion Sol releases later in march then come back on a new account. I think there is more than just League, it shouldn't control your emotions. Go play something else, read some books! You don't want to be the person to hurt someone so bad and make them quit league or even worse harm themselves. Just remember by you being toxic could impact someones life in a negative way, if they suck ass at the game, just report them for intentionally feeding, or whatever. Don't become the puppet again and give in and lash out. Remember you'll get reported again and again and face another perma ban. Not worth it bro.

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