It's clear that the current system can't detect bad behavior very well if it's not in the chat, so why not let us decide? This new tribunal could also be used to determine if a player is intentionally throwing the game in other ways, botting, scripting, or boosting.
Magical Player1 votesTribunal.... is dead for now If we bring it back, what would change from when it was active in the 1st place It was slow, and once the reward was taken away it was even slower
scazzman1 votes[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dyUuJFQR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-01T19:32:17.075+0000)
Tribunal.... is dead for now If we bring it back, what would change from when it was active in the 1st place It was slow, and once the reward was taken away it was even slower
the IFS would still handle chat. the tribunal would be used EXCLUSIVELY for gameplay trolling
Magical Player1 votesWho will sit around to review every report? Bringing back tribunal in this way, is likely to just get flooded with "intent feeding" reports because people know it will go straight to the tribunal and 1 tick on intent feeding if seen by a person may trip a punishment when they were not feeding.
So Three big issues 1- Leads to people reporting for intentional feeding more often 2-Back logs the system again, since no enough people are doing the tribunal 3- Tribunal overloads forcing riot to yet again take on the responsibility and produce a better ai
Imperial Pandaa2 votesAnd how many false positives would there be because some people can't tell difference between a bad game and int feeding.
So slow and inaccurate?
Karunamon1 votesIt's hard to tell even for a trained human, unless someone is extremely obvious by like running it down mid or selling their items.
scazzman1 votes[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dyUuJFQR,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-12-01T19:45:41.359+0000)
And how many false positives would there be because some people can't tell difference between a bad game and int feeding.
So slow and inaccurate?
restrict it to honor 2 or higher, or even honor 3
Imperial Pandaa1 votesThat may help with inaccuracy slightly, but will would also potentially slow it down more.
scazzman1 votes[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dyUuJFQR,comment-id=0000000100010000,timestamp=2017-12-01T20:03:15.548+0000)
That may help with inaccuracy slightly, but will would also potentially slow it down more.
with how bad the IFS is at detecting non chat offenses. it being slow is the least of the concerns
Kei1431 votesit's not like a honor5 bronze player can tell if a smart D1 player is inting.
Jo0o1 votesWhy not?
If anything, it'd be easier to tell if a D1 player is inting, because you can safely assume that they AREN'T making a noob mistake. I think it would be harder to figure out if the Bronze 5 player is inting or simply playing badly.
Kei1431 votes[zombie-brand-mindblown] [zombie-brand-clap] [sg-lux-2]**[sg-zephyr]
Jo0o1 votesFeel free to use words.
Kei1431 votesThose would be the D1's reactions when reviewing bronzie's games, and probably mine as well. Even though I'm just in silver.
Jo0o1 votesOh okay, I thought you were calling me an idiot for my opinion.
I've watched a bronze 5 friend play ranked, and it's kinda ridiculous sometimes. Games with literally zero wards on either side of the map, support Zilean with Doran's Ring building tanky, two pairs of boots across ten players, a Jayce player that never used his ranged mode... it was bizarre. Hard to tell who was playing the game seriously and who wasn't.
Watching a diamond game with a reasonable expectation of skill, I think the int feeders would stick out more.
Kei1431 votesI'd never think of insulting you :P
you are well versed, don't give me walls of texts, never in denial of minor toxicity.
Unlike certain types of players that won't accept anything you say that isn't aligned to what they think. If I'm not trying to uphold a certain standard towards myself, I would have just passive-aggressively insulted them all day.
Jo0o1 votesNot a bad idea (dunno where all the downvotes are coming from), but there is a risk there. Lots of folks seem willing to call noobish mistakes "inting", to the point where I'm not sure I'd trust decisions on the matter to be left to the community. It's popular to say things like "There's never a valid excuse to die X times in lane" or "Ban anybody with ten or more deaths in a game", while obviously exceptions are always going to exist.
I would love to see it done in a non-consequential fashion, though, similar to The Verdict. Show us clips of people accused of inting, let us vote, and then compare our opinions to that of the system.
ModPeriscope1 votesThere isn't really a practical way to review these things. I think the best thing to do is inform players what inting is: Did he state he was trying to lose? Did he act, even briefly, on trying to lose?
Item sets and running it down lane are very easy to detect, but the edge cases are what needs more help from the player base in accurately reporting problematic players.
