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Dealing with Bullies and Abusive people

Lovepet··3 votes·2,542 views
How to Deal With Bullies

Riots official stand on bullying and abusive players is to Ignore them. Their principles regarding this is not shared by any source I could find. Me, TedX, wikihow and every other source of information I could find got a different idea on how to deal with bullies and abusive people.

So, where does this theory come from that if you were to ignore a bully or abusive player that solves the issue? To me, TedX, Wikihow and every other source I could find about the worst thing you can do is to ignore the problem/bully. There are reasons you don't ignore a problem. For one the problem will most certain grow bigger or change in character in a way you can no longer handle. Another reason is that if a bully doesnt get his validation from you due to you ignoring him, he simply wont sit down and accept it, he will seek validation from another source. Just like any hungry person will go to another restaurant if the one he went to is full or out of food.

I speak from personal experience when talking about bullying and abusive players as I was bullied for most of my childhood. I manage to end the bullying towards me by in a physical confrontation with a bully picked him up and slamed him in to a locker and down on to the hard floor. After that noone has ever tried to physically bully me. People still try to bully me with words without much success... I have been through hell, so a few random comments from abusive people doesnt hurt me at all. My advice is to confront the bully. That's what I allways do and I allways come out on top. My information is public and so far 0 people have come knocking on my door from the intenret. I get about 1 silent phone call a year and about 1 strange sms... That's the price I did pay when I stood up against bullies.

Riot got a problem though, they can not learn and they can not be changed. "You can’t change my mind." <-- Statement from a riot-related person. "Cool. Our opinion and Riot's opinion wins. I don't like pulling that card. But this is Riot's boards. They make the rules." <--- Disqualifying any argument due to it being "riots house, riots rules and riots reality" ... I have stated it before, riot think their knowledge is absolut, but it's not. They have been caught lying several times. Been wrong about the definition of words (Idiocy, moronic, n00b, spam, idiot etc etc etc)... But disqualifies any fact that goes against their "way of thinking" on the premises that "this is our board , our rules"

Riot got a view of bullying and abusive players that is not shared by anyone to my understanding.

  1. How do we stop bullying and abusive people on the intenret/games?
  2. How can we make riot understand that their knowledge is not absolut and they should be open minded towards other ideas, especially when their ideas is not supported in science nor history?
  3. Anyone able to explain Riots offcial stand on bullying and abusive people?

Thank you for contributing to this thread. Thank you for not going offtopic.

68 Comments

EvilDustMan12 votes

Dealing with bullies in real life is far different than dealing with them online. Online bullies have more anonymity and can't gain that personal empathy.

However, yes, you can politely and sternly rebuke someone flaming you. You CAN assert yourself, but you should do so concisely and not more than once. And with firm but polite words. After that, if they continue, you mute them and report them.

Reporting them is not leaving them alone. Reporting them leads to their eventual punishment. You are not personally taking action, but you are ensuring that action is taken.

Lovepet1 votes

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Dealing with bullies in real life is far different than dealing with them online. Online bullies have more anonymity and can't gain that personal empathy.

I dont believe this for a second. I believe internet and real life is the same thing, its the same people and you dont gain nor lose intellect because you change your means of communcation from voice to fingerpresses. Noone is anonym, it's a matter of effort to put in, and that is why my information is public.

However, yes, you can politely and sternly rebuke someone flaming you. You CAN assert yourself, but you should do so concisely and not more than once. And with firm but polite words. After that, if they continue, you mute them and report them.

I believe this to be false. I also have never seen any source of information ot theories that this will work and this is the points I talk about in the OP. You can not use mature and intellectual languages when talking to a bully just like you cant use mature and intellectual language when speaking with a child. Bullies have a differnt thoughtprocess then others and lack the basic understandings of empathy, no matter how many sweet words you use you can not affect a person who lacks empathy in that regard by that method.

Reporting them is not leaving them alone. Reporting them leads to their eventual punishment. You are not personally taking action, but you are ensuring that action is taken.

Question was: Anyone able to explain Riots offcial stand on bullying and abusive people? I dont understand your post to that last question. Also, it has been proven that the report system got flaws, huge flaws where people who are innocent get punished and warned and others who are nazis etc still playing this game and talking about "clensing the arian blood". I suggest you look up Riot-Lytes talks about this and hopefully you come to the same conclustion that both me and lyte got, that the system is not perfect, far from it and almost the opposite.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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I dont believe this for a second. I believe internet and real life is the same thing, its the same people and you dont gain nor lose intellect because you change your means of communcation from voice to fingerpresses. Noone is anonym, it's a matter of effort to put in, and that is why my information is public.

I believe this to be false. I also have never seen any source of information ot theories that this will work and this is the points I talk about in the OP. You can not use mature and intellectual languages when talking to a bully just like you cant use mature and intellectual language when speaking with a child. Bullies have a differnt thoughtprocess then others and lack the basic understandings of empathy, no matter how many sweet words you use you can not affect a person who lacks empathy in that regard by that method.

Question was: Anyone able to explain Riots offcial stand on bullying and abusive people? I dont understand your post to that last question. Also, it has been proven that the report system got flaws, huge flaws where people who are innocent get punished and warned and others who are nazis etc still playing this game and talking about "clensing the arian blood". I suggest you look up Riot-Lytes talks about this and hopefully you come to the same conclustion that both me and lyte got, that the system is not perfect, far from it and almost the opposite.

Thought processes do change. Not being face to face with someone changes the way you deal with them.

And that's correct. You can try to be firm, calm, and level headed, after that, you mute and report them.

These aren't people who are going to be constantly involved in your life. They are people you are going to see for 40 minutes then likely never see again. They aren't people repeatedly harassing you over time.

The report system has some flaws, but no, hate speech like that would be quickly punished and innocent people rarely get punished by accident. When you see people saying it happened, it is either an exception, or they simply assume the person doesn't get punished.

Lovepet1 votes

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Thought processes do change. Not being face to face with someone changes the way you deal with them.

Not in riots case, the one time they did change was when Lyte quit/got fired... they changed for the worst and threw all his research out the window.

And that's correct. You can try to be firm, calm, and level headed, after that, you mute and report them.

Understand that this will result in the bully going to the next target and abusing him. IT doesnt stop the bully, it simply directs him in a differnt direction. You dont stop a bully by censure. It has never worked and there are no studies that I know of that support that claim.

These aren't people who are going to be constantly involved in your life. They are people you are going to see for 40 minutes then likely never see again. They aren't people repeatedly harassing you over time.

Not true. I had to see my bullies 5 days of the 7 days in a week for ~10 years. We are talking about bullying and abusive players. Not what happens with a troll in a lol-game. This thread is bigger then that and so is the questions and problems.

The report system has some flaws, but no, hate speech like that would be quickly punished and innocent people rarely get punished by accident. When you see people saying it happened, it is either an exception, or they simply assume the person doesn't get punished.

Okey, can you name a few of those flaws? Hate speaech like that didnt yeild a punishment, I know because I did follow up that case after I let riot know what had happen. They did nothing about it, they even said they were not going to do anything about.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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Not in riots case, the one time they did change was when Lyte quit/got fired... they changed for the worst and threw all his research out the window.

Understand that this will result in the bully going to the next target and abusing him. IT doesnt stop the bully, it simply directs him in a differnt direction. You dont stop a bully by censure. It has never worked and there are no studies that I know of that support that claim.

Not true. I had to see my bullies 5 days of the 7 days in a week for ~10 years. We are talking about bullying and abusive players. Not what happens with a troll in a lol-game. This thread is bigger then that and so is the questions and problems.

Okey, can you name a few of those flaws? Hate speaech like that didnt yeild a punishment, I know because I did follow up that case after I let riot know what had happen. They did nothing about it, they even said they were not going to do anything about.

You are back tracking here. Are you talking about real life bullies or dealing with people in League of Legends?

Lovepet1 votes

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You are back tracking here. Are you talking about real life bullies or dealing with people in League of Legends?

WRONG! Im not backtracking. The thread and it's content speak for itself. I suggest that you use the find funciton in your web-browser or press ctrl+f and search for keywords like "league" , how many times was that mentioned in the OP?

If I dont say cheese once odds are that Im not talking about cheese.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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WRONG! Im not backtracking. The thread and it's content speak for itself. I suggest that you use the find funciton in your web-browser or press ctrl+f and search for keywords like "league" , how many times was that mentioned in the OP?

If I dont say cheese once odds are that Im not talking about cheese.

Oh well, in that case, no DUH dealing with a constant every day harassment is different than a random 40 minute troll on the internet, thanks for figuring that one out for us.

Lovepet1 votes

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Oh well, in that case, no DUH dealing with a constant every day harassment is different than a random 40 minute troll on the internet, thanks for figuring that one out for us.

Im sorry, I dont understand your statement and I dont understand how it is related to this topic.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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Im sorry, I dont understand your statement and I dont understand how it is related to this topic.

Riot's stance relates to dealing with trolls in games. It is not meant to be a stance for dealing with real life bullies who consistently harass you.

Lovepet1 votes

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Riot's stance relates to dealing with trolls in games. It is not meant to be a stance for dealing with real life bullies who consistently harass you.

But as pointed out by me, by wikihow and tedX their methods doesnt work. I have done re-search about this subject for almost 20 years now and find nothing to support their claims on how to prevent and stop bullying and abusive players... rather the opposite of what they are saying. No war has ever been won by ignoring the enemies. No conflict has never ended by ignoring the other party. An "alt-right" party manage to get in to parlament and is now the #2nd biggest party because of others ignoring them, refusing to debate them, refusing to talk to them and saying the opposite of what they said.

Everything points to that riot are wrong, their stands on this is not supported by history nor facts nor any theories nor research. So, who wrote that originally and how can he believe it to be a solution when noone else who is qualified doesnt?

EvilDustMan1 votes

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But as pointed out by me, by wikihow and tedX their methods doesnt work. I have done re-search about this subject for almost 20 years now and find nothing to support their claims on how to prevent and stop bullying and abusive players... rather the opposite of what they are saying. No war has ever been won by ignoring the enemies. No conflict has never ended by ignoring the other party. An "alt-right" party manage to get in to parlament and is now the #2nd biggest party because of others ignoring them, refusing to debate them, refusing to talk to them and saying the opposite of what they said.

Everything points to that riot are wrong, their stands on this is not supported by history nor facts nor any theories nor research. So, who wrote that originally and how can he believe it to be a solution when noone else who is qualified doesnt?

Except none of those people or situations are what you deal with in League. Where Riots stance applies. And yes, there are repeat offenders, but most people stop after their first chat offense.

Again, Riots system applies only to people you meet for 40 minutes, then probably never again. You aren't trying to get them to understand universal healthcare, you just want them to shut up so you can play.

Lovepet1 votes

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Except none of those people or situations are what you deal with in League. Where Riots stance applies. And yes, there are repeat offenders, but most people stop after their first chat offense.

This thread is not about league. And you are being a victim of bullying and abusive players in league.

Again, Riots system applies only to people you meet for 40 minutes, then probably never again. You aren't trying to get them to understand universal healthcare, you just want them to shut up so you can play.

Again, this thread is not about league and I quote myself:

Thank you for contributing to this thread. Thank you for not going offtopic.

TrulyBland1 votes

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This thread is not about league.

You keep saying that, and then switch back to League related topics. There are four possibilities:

A) This thread is about Riot's policies on player behaviour. B) This thread is about real-life bullying / abuse. C) All of the above. D) None of the above.

So once and for all: Which of these is it?

Lovepet1 votes

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You keep saying that, and then switch back to League related topics. There are four possibilities:

A) This thread is about Riot's policies on player behaviour. B) This thread is about real-life bullying / abuse. C) All of the above. D) None of the above.

So once and for all: Which of these is it?

I dont understand how your comment is contributing to this thread: Bullying and Abusive people. Try to stay on topic and contribute to this thread. Avoid stating lies based on nothing. Avoid speculating when knowledge is avail. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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You keep saying that, and then switch back to League related topics. There are four possibilities:

A) This thread is about Riot's policies on player behaviour. B) This thread is about real-life bullying / abuse. C) All of the above. D) None of the above.

So once and for all: Which of these is it?

This thread is like some sort of foreign art film. Indecipherable and mind boggling.

Lovepet1 votes

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This thread is like some sort of foreign art film. Indecipherable and mind boggling.

Understand that you are going offtopic all the time and you do not contritubte to this thread: Bullying and Abusive people. Please avoid putting words in my mouth. I dont do that to you because I find it disrespectful and in hope that noone does it to me. In this case you are dead wrong. I have not said what you claim I have said and I have no idea why you come here, goes offtopic and then starts to lie. I find it to serve no purpose regarding contributing to this thread and this topic. Personally I have yet to find 1 of your comments on topic in any thread.

Lovepet1 votes

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Riot's stance relates to dealing with trolls in games. It is not meant to be a stance for dealing with real life bullies who consistently harass you.

We are not talking about trolls, this thread is about bullying and abusive people. Please stay on topic.

ModPeriscope1 votes

You did say "Riot" and you are posting on their forums. If you're not talking about league, then why are you posting about this on this forum?

Lovepet1 votes

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You did say "Riot" and you are posting on their forums. If you're not talking about league, then why are you posting about this on this forum?

I dont understand your statement and dont see how it is on topic. Please stay on topic to this thread. This thread is about bullying and abusive people and how to prevent that behavior.l

ModPeriscope1 votes

I'm only trying to elucidate your complaint. If it's about League, then I'd comment on on your statements. But, you seem to indicate that your comments do not pertain to League.

Drugoth4 votes

Your advice for dealing with bullies is horrible, the one case you use as an explanation is terrible as well.

You got off lucky after you did what you did to that guy. Assaulting him could of seriously backfired. You could of got arrested and charged for assault. He could have come back at you with several of his friends for revenge. Sure, people stopped bullying you after you did that, but I'm sure it also made it harder to make friends as everyone else was likely afraid of you.

No matter how much you try to argue that real life bullying is the same as cyber harassment, the fact of the matter is they aren't the same. As was explained by evil dust man anonymity makes a huge difference coupled with the fact you will likely only encounter this person once. On the flipside, in real life, usually the bully is someone you see often (school setting for example) and you each know each other's identity. This changes the bullying to be on a more personal level, as the bully likely knows personal things about you and can use that knowledge against you. Not to mention they can physically assault you.

Online is a completely different landscape and is actually much easier to deal with harassment. Riot has left a shiny little nugget of a tool for us in the form of the mute button. Someone harasses you about the fact you're 0/3 at 10 minutes? Mute em. To top it off, if the harassment was especially bad, we can always report them at the end of game screen.

Tl;Dr, Using a single case to justify your theory or method of dealing with bullying is silly and you're simply wrong. Going around, suplexing bullies into lockers is not the way to end bullying. Unfortunately, at the moment we still have no real way to stop it altogether and we only have ways to deal with and punish it.

Sarutobi3 votes

  1. You cant stop bullying period. Everyone is different especially in terms of how they bully, let alone the fact that this is online and there is that animosity. Thats really the main reason people do what they do. You dont know who they are, so they are scared of any type of real punishment.

  2. Riot is more than happy to see ideas, it just doesnt help that really your only solution is to do physical harm to others who bully. Its fighting fire with fire which is something Riot doesnt tolerate.

  3. I mean i get it, The main reason people do this is to get attention. They want you to rage in the chat not only because they get a kick out of it, but because they know how the punishment system works and thus will get you punished. This is why Riot tells you to ignore. Dont give in to their demands because it only causes more problems than solves. Ignoring them helps because it doesnt give them what they want, and thats the attention!

Lovepet1 votes

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  1. You cant stop bullying period. Everyone is different especially in terms of how they bully, let alone the fact that this is online and there is that animosity. Thats really the main reason people do what they do. You dont know who they are, so they are scared of any type of real punishment.

I manage to stop all the bullying in my life and I was severely abused for over 10 years. I did manage to stop bullying and so did others, you can in fact stop bullying using different methods. I did use violence and these days I use confrontation.

  1. Riot is more than happy to see ideas, it just doesnt help that really your only solution is to do physical harm to others who bully. Its fighting fire with fire which is something Riot doesnt tolerate.

Riot have shown time after time after time that they are not happy to see ideas. That's why I included parts of a chat log to show you that riot is not open for discussion nor will they change their mind nor opinion. I have dealt with this for a very long time and have brought this up with riot several times. Each and every time I get the same response, our game, our rules, our reality... Accept it or GT-O /riot

  1. I mean i get it, The main reason people do this is to get attention. They want you to rage in the chat not only because they get a kick out of it, but because they know how the punishment system works and thus will get you punished. This is why Riot tells you to ignore. Dont give in to their demands because it only causes more problems than solves. Ignoring them helps because it doesnt give them what they want, and thats the attention!

I dont believe that is correct at all. Most of the bullying towards me has been behind closed doors, it has never been about attetnion when it comes to the people who used to bully me. They have stated reasons for what they did and noone did ever say it was due to attention. A bully dont want you to act up because then you grab attention wich means someone "stronger" then the bully can see what the bully is doing, confronting the bully and ending the bully. A bully doesnt want attention at all, a bully is afraid of attention, he is ashamed of what he does and does not stand for it. I have personal experience about this. I have seen a bully start to run and cry just because a teacher confronted him about his own actions.

Sarutobi2 votes

But its not always going to be as black and white like that. Plus Violence doesnt solve everything. Im glad it help you, but what would have happen if it didnt solve it and they kept bulling you? Like i said just because it helped you, doesnt mean its going to solve everyone else problem.

With that said, from time on this forum (as well as places like Reddit) The Rioters (usually called Reds) have taken into consideration on people's idea. It could just be how you come off, or if it goes against their ideas. It seems pretty set that retaliation in your case goes against Riots idea. If you can think of another way that can solve the problem im sure they will hear it. But as of how i see your post it just not going to happen.

As for your last part you are under the impression that Online Bullying, and Real Life bullying is the same, and sadly that just isnt true. Real life Bullies can harm you, they can physically hurt you, or cause serious damages. Online bullies just call you names, or in this case (the game) Ruin your matches. Nothing from an online confrontation is "real" No one can harm you, because they dont know who you are, nor do you know who they are. Your example only works in a real life confrontation!

BlueThingamajig2 votes

There is a huge distinction between real life and online ignoring.

In real life, when you ignore a bully, you still have to put up with their abuse. You still hear and must put up with them talking, yelling, screaming, harassing, mocking, etc. You still experience any physical abuse they might choose to partake in. When you ignore someone, they still exist. You just pretend they don't and try to not react to them.

You can't pretend a physical attack doesn't exist, and expect to be healthy afterwards. Mockery can still hurt, even if you pretend to not hear it.

In League of Legends, when you ignore/mute someone, they might as well become a different person entirely. You no longer experience any harassment. They are physically prevented from interacting with you. For all intents and purposes, using the mute feature replaces the toxic player with a completely silent player at the same skill level. It literally ends all chat-related harassment you could possibly experience.

You don't have to pretend to not notice something, because it no longer exists.

Frontline Fury1 votes

Its simple. Riot's "principles" are Tencent's principles. Have you seen how people live in China? Their standpoint on EVERYTHING negative is "pretend it doesnt exist" or "remove it by force if it becomes an issue". There's nothing in between.

Lovepet1 votes

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Its simple. Riot's "principles" are Tencent's principles. Have you seen how people live in China? Their standpoint on EVERYTHING negative is "pretend it doesnt exist" or "remove it by force if it becomes an issue". There's nothing in between.

Im sorry, what is "Tencent's principles" or what does it mean?

deathgod52 votes

a lot of people think that tencent(riots parent company) is responsible for everything they don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent . It is the league of legends version of the illuminati in certain groups.

Lovepet1 votes

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a lot of people think that tencent(riots parent company) is responsible for everything they don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent . It is the league of legends version of the illuminati in certain groups.

I think that is a discussion for another thread... I dont share that opinion. I believe that riot went down hill from the departure of Lyte.

Frontline Fury1 votes

Tencent is the parent company that owns the rights to Riot games. They stipulate everything related to legal rights and rules (e.g the terms of service that you agree to with every new patch.) and take responsibility in lawsuits and similar.

Lovepet1 votes

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Tencent is the parent company that owns the rights to Riot games. They stipulate everything related to legal rights and rules (e.g the terms of service that you agree to with every new patch.) and take responsibility in lawsuits and similar.

Ahh, got you... but I have not agreed to anything.

Chermorg5 votes

I think Frontline Fury is referring to the re-agreement you do to the terms of service every time you open the client after a patch, or when it’s installed for the first time. It’s impossible to have played the game without agreeing to the terms of service.

Lovepet1 votes

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I think Frontline Fury is referring to the re-agreement you do to the terms of service every time you open the client after a patch, or when it’s installed for the first time. It’s impossible to have played the game without agreeing to the terms of service.

I dont understand this statement nor how it contributes to this thread nor topic. Please stay on topic and help contrivute to the thread and hopefully make it harder for bullies and abusive people to bully and be abusive.

Also it is very possible to play this game without agreeing to anything. (your knowledge is not absolut)

Frontline Fury1 votes

Chermorg is simply correcting me, as my statement makes a very significant claim. It helps, as i have a hard time differentializing between the two due to language barriers.

Of course we of the western world do not agree with Tencent's principles. What the chinese consider "common sense" we consider "brain washing". But that's how their culture is, and has been for longer than most of our culture has even existed.

Fact and history is like science - it's the truth wether you like it or not.

MXXXXXL1 votes

You cannot in any way play League of Legends without first agreeing to the terms of service.

Lovepet1 votes

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You cannot in any way play League of Legends without first agreeing to the terms of service.

I dont understand how your comment is on the topic of: Bullying and abusive players. Plese stay on topic and avoid going offtopic as it doesnt help not contributes to the thread.

Also: Yes, yes you can. Your knowledge is not absolut just like riot.

MXXXXXL2 votes

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Also: Yes, yes you can. Your knowledge is not absolut just like riot.

How do you play League of Legends without agreeing to the terms of service? I would like to find out.

ME UNGA ME SMASH2 votes

You physically cannot play the game without agreeing to the terms of service. You can not. You agreed to the terms when you made your account, and you agree every single time you update the game. It is the reason you can be punished for bad behavior, or even banned. What you are saying makes actually no sense.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

"Bullies" You mean ignorant internet losers with low IQs.

The only reason people like that bother me is because it reminds me off how stupid people are and how we as a society haven't handled it yet.

They will never change unless forced to or by some miracle have an awakening. No point in even putting attention to it unless you genuinely plan on changing them yourself. Of course some people are beyond help and need to be professionally rehabilitated.

To the point, mute them or start a very long debate in the middle of a competitive game. Thats how you handle the lol "bully"

Lovepet1 votes

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"Bullies" You mean ignorant internet losers with low IQs.

No I mean what it says, bullies and abusive people.

The only reason people like that bother me is because it reminds me off how stupid people are and how we as a society haven't handled it yet.

I dont see how this is contributing to this thread.

They will never change unless forced to or by some miracle have an awakening. No point in even putting attention to it unless you genuinely plan on changing them yourself. Of course some people are beyond help and need to be professionally rehabilitated.

No, this is not true. I have changed the minds and attitutdes of bullies for 15 years. Knowledge is power.

To the point, mute them or start a very long debate in the middle of a competitive game. Thats how you handle the lol "bully"

I have previously explained how that causes more harm then it does good. Please re-read the thread to avoid missunderstandings. I have referensed tedx and wikihow for those who have a problem trusting me.

x Royal Solo x1 votes

My bad i got a little carried away. :)

  1. Make it so they aren't anonymous. Have an honest debate over their actions and how it effects them and others. Ban them using a social security number so they cant make a new account. Basically rehabilitate them or banish them.

  2. I don't understand the question.

  3. Harrasment is a reportable offense, that is their stance.

Shacobroyo1 votes

The truth is that this experiment is a failure because that's exactly what this player behavior system is. It's not creating a better community what it's actually doing is causing people to turn into trolls. Any psychologist worth anything will tell you ignoring bullies and not facing them head on in any form is going to cause more trouble for not only you later in life, but also for other people. Another huge thing they will tell you is that holding emotion inside is highly toxic for you, and when you feel like you're being abused or used to say nothing. Those three things are so of the most toxic things you can do to a human psychology.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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The truth is that this experiment is a failure because that's exactly what this player behavior system is. It's not creating a better community what it's actually doing is causing people to turn into trolls. Any psychologist worth anything will tell you ignoring bullies and not facing them head on in any form is going to cause more trouble for not only you later in life, but also for other people. Another huge thing they will tell you is that holding emotion inside is highly toxic for you, and when you feel like you're being abused or used to say nothing. Those three things are so of the most toxic things you can do to a human psychology.

[Citation needed]

Lovepet1 votes

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The truth is that this experiment is a failure because that's exactly what this player behavior system is. It's not creating a better community what it's actually doing is causing people to turn into trolls.

Isn't this what I have been tryint to tell you all but when I do it I get 20 downvotes and is being harassed for it.

Any psychologist worth anything will tell you ignoring bullies and not facing them head on in any form is going to cause more trouble for not only you later in life, but also for other people.

These are basically my words.

Another huge thing they will tell you is that holding emotion inside is highly toxic for you, and when you feel like you're being abused or used to say nothing. Those three things are so of the most toxic things you can do to a human psychology.

This is also true, you also never get verification if your feelings are true or not. You are mostly correct and I have no idea why anyone would downvote your comment... unless they are a bully or abusive person.

Lovepet1 votes

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The truth is that this experiment is a failure because that's exactly what this player behavior system is. It's not creating a better community what it's actually doing is causing people to turn into trolls. Any psychologist worth anything will tell you ignoring bullies and not facing them head on in any form is going to cause more trouble for not only you later in life, but also for other people. Another huge thing they will tell you is that holding emotion inside is highly toxic for you, and when you feel like you're being abused or used to say nothing. Those three things are so of the most toxic things you can do to a human psychology.

With all this being said and it's the truth for everyone who did study human behavior... Why won't a big company like Riot understand what educated people are trying to tell them?

These are some of the statements made by riot-related people and is the same statements made by rioters: The bottom line is that you were found to be wrong, and it doesn’t matter whether you think you’re right or wrong, because these are Riot’s forums and they make the rules and the judgement.

Your behavior is what needs to change, not our opinions/thoughts/whatever.

I asked a riot-related person: Understand that you can sit here and dismiss all the point Im trying to make with "It doesnt matter" ... how can you develop as a person or a company if no input is to be made? His response: You can’t change my mind.

These are the definition for ignorance. But ignorance is not punishable under any law nor is it looked down upon but rather cherished.

Doesn't this make RIOT arrogant by the definition of the word? And that only makes more questions... like how can something that arrogant be so successful without selling the arrogance as an image? (like wwe wrestlers etc) Where I come from we have implemented "Whistle blowers rights" ... If an employee finds corruption and reports it he/she is being protected from that company... I guess this is not the case with riot and guess riot doesnt believe in this idea neither.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

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