Decided to do a little experiment.

ABalancedGame·8/16/2018, 5:17:07 AM·51 votes·15,946 views
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Joined a game on a new account. I've seen people rage on smurfs before, didn't care much, because I just played like I usually do on my main and ignore it. It's not me, why should I care?

Then I played one game where someone in post-lobby that was an actual new player said to me, "why do you enjoy stomping people who just want to learn..."

I don't. I didn't really think about it. Just wanted to level up another account to one-trick on. That's it... so I thought... what's it like to BE a new player in League these days?

So I started a game, and acted like I was new. I played like the new players I've seen before. Why? I wanted to put myself into the shoes of someone coming in fresh, wanting to get a grasp, and dealing with this community... this is what transpired.

This guy added me TWICE just to tell me that I'm a useless human being.

But hey, League has no toxicity problem, right? The honor system has fixed everything, and reports keep the bad people away. This is not an isolated case, and you all know it, we've all seen this type of blatant psychotic behavior on a daily basis.

Next time you see people berating someone in your game, imagine if it was YOU. Report them.

Riot, do something.

Edit: and before anyone comes in to just say, "mute them???", how does muting someone fix the problem? It only covers it up further while the toxicity keeps rising, like throwing a blanket over a pile of trash and expecting the stink to go away.

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Icy Hot Shoto8/16/2018, 5:23:44 AM17 votes

Muting doesn't fix the problem, what you SHOULD do is MUTE and REPORT. They then get flagged by the system and checked. If they earned an offense, they will get the proper punishment.

The main issue, is that some smurfs are toxic people who were perma banned that are starting over. As such, they're usually just as toxic still.

Riot apparently has a system that can tell if you're a smurf, but I guess not if smurfs are being placed with actually new players.

Arammus8/16/2018, 5:25:37 AM9 votes

to be fair: if an acc is new and toxic, it gets banned pretty fast. i think riot has a rule somewhere that before your first insert amount of games here your acc is in a state of "you get banned pretty quick" kinda like you came back from a 14 day ban.

but yeah, when i leveld my smurf i also saw other smurfs really insult new players. its sad but oh well. thats humans for ya.

Zertryx8/16/2018, 6:45:38 AM7 votes

Ok i know i'm gonna be in the minority with what about to say, but please at least take the time to read and consider my statements here before jumping on any bandwagons and dismissing me.

For starters, Toxicity will ALWAYS be a problem in gaming, sure we can add and implement systems to fight it off but no matter how hard you try there will always be toxic people, and the BIGGER community is, the more you are going see. Because just like in games, in real life we have punishment systems in place and we still have toxic people IRL too. it just aint ever gonna go away.

While yes, there are things we can do to fight it and try to minimize it as much as possible, but the only TRUE way to really get rid of toxicity would be to delete the chat (or since we can't MUTE the player) Now i know you said that "muting" only hides the problem BUT actually it really does more than this. Hear me out for a second, Muting does a few things here. 1: it makes it so you are no longer exposing yourself to the harmful words of the other player, you already know they are a jerk so now you no longer have to see it. This is good because 2: It also prevents you from caving in and FEEDING him or her the Attention they are ultimately seeking. Weather you are being toxic back when you respond to players like this it just gives them more fuel to keep talking and to keep responding. you already know they are toxic, and by edging them on you are now part of the inherit issue, instead ignore them, and at end game ask for people to report. typing in all chat and during a game and talking to them is ALSO being toxic, because now your making the situation more involved and bringing not only your game play down but also morale down as well and thats not good.

Honestly i always felt riot should have made a option in game to turn off chat completely, we now have Emotes / Pings to communicate well enough with players that we DONT NEED chat function, which is where MOST of the toxic behavior happens, (why do you think games like hearthstone dont have "Toxic" players being complained about 24/7?) The Chat is the real demon, when you give players a way to aggressive channel their frustration onto other players, and human nature is immediately to DEFEND themselves, you now have a chat full of players constantly bickering, at this point who ever started it no longer matters, you both get punished.

It may sound like a cop out but honestly the TRUEST way to battle toxic players is to honestly ACTUALLY ignore them, the more you shine a light on something the more its gonna start appearing frequently and MOST people when they start being rude or angry are legit trying to get a reaction from you, if you dont give the reaction they no longer have anything to talk about and if all 9 other players ignore them ... then they just talk to themselves ... and the other 9 players live in peace.

For your next experiment, try muting EVERYONE start of the game, for a multitude of games and use pings / emotes to communicate and watch as your skill and FUN levels improve, once u gain control of how YOU respond to toxic people by a INSTANT mute rather than "Typing" back you realize that the games 10000x more fun when you use the mute / hide the chat

MYSTlCFLOW8/16/2018, 7:17:30 AM4 votes

i don't like the fact that you asked enemy to report him. 9 reports is the same as 1 report.

Phoenixdust8/16/2018, 10:58:56 AM3 votes

So you ruined his game, then accepted his friend request (twice?) and cry on boards what he said?

Why do not you just ignore it? It costs nothing... I know you wrote "mute them" isnt a solution, but it is. If you mute them, you dont see it, and your snowflake soul wont get hurt.... How does his flaming affect you in ANY way? It does NOT....

ModPeriscope8/16/2018, 5:50:46 AM3 votes

But hey, League has no toxicity problem, right? The honor system has fixed everything, and reports keep the bad people away. This is not an isolated case, and you all know it, we've all seen this type of blatant psychotic behavior on a daily basis.

They're always trying to improve the system. I think we can all agree that toxicity isn't dead.

I appreciate that you had taken the time to edit out the names; it shows that you really care about this issue.

Plocký8/19/2018, 6:51:45 AM1 votes

I tried to get my other acc banned with beeing a toxic lil shit, one game - 14 day ban. Riot rly stepped up the game in that regard. porps to them <3

TheCodeisCupCake8/20/2018, 1:25:25 PM1 votes

I've beaten people before, only for them to add me and tell me to kill myself, sorry for beating you?

Darkstar Annie8/20/2018, 10:18:58 PM1 votes

Need a way to report while in-game. Often I forget to report when the game is over when I simply mute toxic people early in the game.

meowwow78/16/2018, 5:52:03 AM1 votes

i've seen that guy in the op.gg. that isn't really a new player if it was i wouldn't be seeing as many wards or a semi decent build so in other words this is ironic [sg-lux-2]

Phoenixdust8/17/2018, 11:48:10 AM1 votes

So literally nobody gives a fck about OP's INTING, just because he tried to prove flamers flame?

I really hope somebody from Rito will look at this thread, and give the well deserved 14day ban for his game... Or if you want to frame flamers, then everything is allowed!?

Ps.: Did you get punished for this game? If you did, then it's okay.

sevlesruoY kcuF8/18/2018, 3:29:36 AM1 votes

Reports don't remove bad people. Reports remove people who react to bad people.

When I say bad, I don't mean new. New players don't bother me at all. But when a player clearly demonstrates that he knows how to play, then he backs off from every team fight because he likes watching you die and only helps if you can gift wrap a kill for him, then yes, that ass hole deserves some flaming. Of course, the system protects that ass hole and bans the flamer that he trolled.

Teslyn8/19/2018, 3:59:46 AM1 votes

you basically instigated him on chat to get this to the level you feel to show that there is toxic behavior.

gj.. you are part of the mess.

Teslyn8/19/2018, 4:04:49 AM1 votes

also, i reviewed the game.. basically you threw the game and you are going to say how toxic people are..

wth man.. the way you played is why people want actions to be more accountable than words. you literally ruined 4 other peoples games for your 'toxic player experiment'

i dont understand at all what you are trying to prove.