Earn Back Your Perma Banned Acount

Anime Knight·May 14, 2018·3 votes·2,136 views

Hi Everyone, i just had a thought and i know alot of players out there might agree with me. With league sometimes things happen, we are all human and sometimes weither it be toxic behaviour or using cheats we all make mistakes, its in our nature. I really think Riot should Create a Earn back your account system Where you have to play like 1000 games or something without getting one report, in order to get back a perma banned account. What do you guys think? Isnt the point of making a mistake to learn from it and then be given a second Chance?

19 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWMay 14, 20188 votes

Look up the word "permanent".
Chat restrictions & 14 days suspension are considered 2nd chances.

AJStarhikerMay 14, 20187 votes

They already tried it. Back around S1 or S2, Riot attempted the Level 20 Challenge. They handpicked a set of permabanned players they thought most likely to succeed, and the results were so dismal, they pulled the plug almost before word hit the forums and they've never attempted a similar program since.

MagicFlyingLlamaMay 14, 20184 votes

Permbanned players already proved they are mentally incapable of reform. If they are kids, maybe in 10 years..

Also tyler1 is steadily heading for it again, should be a fun show.

This Is Your DadMay 14, 20181 votes

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Permbanned players already proved they are mentally incapable of reform. If they are kids, maybe in 10 years..

Also tyler1 is steadily heading for it again, should be a fun show.

Honestly he's selling it off too, I saw a reformed stream, cuz I don't watch the guy regularly, and he was talking smack about reforming. So he was getting viewers by saying "I don't do that shit no more, but I'm a tough OG" and so of course it'll gradually go back cuz it's fake.

JCPANDITMay 14, 20182 votes

Let me ask you - why should these players earn yet another chance? They had ample opportunity to improve their behaviour before the perma. Implementing your suggested system makes a joke out of the severity of the penalty.

YerroFeverMay 14, 20182 votes

The thing is, permanent bans aren't the first line of defense, it's a last resort.

Why didn't players learn from prior punishments?

CubanThund3rMay 14, 20181 votes

because nobody got perma banned back in the day, it was unheard of. so even with chat restriction after chat restriction and 14 day bans people figure as long as they aren't toxic enough to (their own standards) then they will never get perma banned just continue getting lesser punishments

YerroFeverMay 14, 20181 votes

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because nobody got perma banned back in the day, it was unheard of. so even with chat restriction after chat restriction and 14 day bans people figure as long as they aren't toxic enough to (their own standards) then they will never get perma banned just continue getting lesser punishments

But Riot has been permabanning for years and they explicitly explained that there is a punishment escalation system. Unless they just flat out ignored Riot and didn't believe that Riot would hand out permanent bans when they said they would...? Isn't that the player's fault for not believing Riot?

CubanThund3rMay 14, 20181 votes

so if you don't believe in god when god says to pray for redemption and you go to hell for it isn't that the persons fault for not believing in god? I'm not actually about to argue this specific point with you.

riot has been permabanning for years I agree. so I would draw a line accounts have to be before riot implemented the current system of 10 - 25 chat ban 14- perma ban Where would you draw the line? let me ask you this. the first ever account that riot has perma banned, should that player be allowed a CHANCE. to prove their reform and once proven if they are toxic in just ONE game get perma banned? If you say no then there is simply no further discussion or progress to be made between you and I

YerroFeverMay 14, 20181 votes

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so if you don't believe in god when god says to pray for redemption and you go to hell for it isn't that the persons fault for not believing in god? I'm not actually about to argue this specific point with you.

Existential arguments about religion aren't really comparable. I would say it's more comparable to someone saying "if you don't stop, I'm going to punch you. Stop it, if you really don't stop I'm going to punch you" and then the guy actually punching you.

riot has been permabanning for years I agree. so I would draw a line accounts have to be before riot implemented the current system of 10 - 25 chat ban 14- perma ban Where would you draw the line? let me ask you this. the first ever account that riot has perma banned, should that player be allowed a CHANCE. to prove their reform and once proven if they are toxic in just ONE game get perma banned? If you say no then there is simply no further discussion or progress to be made between you and I

No one on the forums I have seen was banned after one bad game. Everyone on the forums has said they have had multiple prior punishments, or Tantram has come down and corrected them and disclosing the number of prior punishments.

No one should ever be permabanned for one toxic game unless it was the most extreme of extreme cases.

I'm not sure where you're getting your examples from but LOTS of people on the forum lie about their punishment history and claim they're getting unreasonably punished by either editing their chat log or lying about their punishment history. They think that getting the forum's sympathy means they'll get their punishment reversed, but we don't have that power. Player support does, and they can see full chat logs, full punishment histories, and what not. We, the forum, only see what players post and what Tantram posts to correct lies that players have made.

CubanThund3rMay 15, 20181 votes

what No i was saying that they can have this 1000 game challenge or w/e and then if they pass and get their account back. if they are toxic on their main just once then they can get instant perma banned. so that after getting their 3+ year old account back they can only ruin one game maximum

and yes if a person who's all bark and no bite says if you don't stop i'm going to punch you, sure you deserve the punch but in almost any situation one of them would end up apologizing and they would both be on... neutral terms it's not arguing whether or not the punishment was deserving or who's fault it was but like it's 3+ years riot can just unlock the accounts and have them on thin ice (as if they just came off a 14 day ban) it gives the player one chance at their account that was made before season 5 and all in all it really doesn't affect riot or the community because the banned person either is still playing or has quit forever

YerroFeverMay 15, 20181 votes

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what No i was saying that they can have this 1000 game challenge or w/e and then if they pass and get their account back. if they are toxic on their main just once then they can get instant perma banned. so that after getting their 3+ year old account back they can only ruin one game maximum

and yes if a person who's all bark and no bite says if you don't stop i'm going to punch you, sure you deserve the punch but in almost any situation one of them would end up apologizing and they would both be on... neutral terms it's not arguing whether or not the punishment was deserving or who's fault it was but like it's 3+ years riot can just unlock the accounts and have them on thin ice (as if they just came off a 14 day ban) it gives the player one chance at their account that was made before season 5 and all in all it really doesn't affect riot or the community because the banned person either is still playing or has quit forever

Riot already tried it and based on their numbers, 95% of permabanned toxic players that contacted player support and agreed to 1 on 1 counseling on player behavior with support specialists didn't reform. So, that's just the people who contacted player support and said they wanted to reform. The number is going to be even worse for players who didn't even care to try and just created a new account to be toxic to everyone out of spite.

I don't see how giving them another chance will actually help.

CubanThund3rMay 15, 20181 votes

I already commented about that below to AJStarhiker, those people probably had maximum 5 months to reform on a game where they probably didn't care about their rank or rank rewards and the lvl 1-30 grind was the same as them playing normals at level 30 It's as if you got banned on fortnite why reform when you can just make a new acc without losing anything? I doubt a lot of people had spent $500 dollars on their account by that point

stop saying "another chance" it would be as simple as if a person has played 1000 games and not received a punishment then they are able to apply to get their accounts back this isn't about giving every toxic person "ANOTHER CHANCE" do you even realize what you're saying? it's not a CHANCE to reform. they have already reformed if they've made it 1000 games without a punishment

pryda022May 15, 20181 votes

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But Riot has been permabanning for years and they explicitly explained that there is a punishment escalation system. Unless they just flat out ignored Riot and didn't believe that Riot would hand out permanent bans when they said they would...? Isn't that the player's fault for not believing Riot?

no it used to take a lot to get perma banned. they started this new penalty system about 2 years ago and the rates are much higher. they honestly should get rid of the report system and force ppl to use mute more often and only ban people for hate speech and I mean real hate speech not snowflake hate speech

Kei143May 14, 20181 votes

Person ally i wouldn't mind them getting their main accounts back after a lonnnngggg period of proof of reform.

If course this will happen after all the other better behavior initiatives have been implemented.

FlyingRoboticCowMay 14, 20181 votes

The chat restrictions and the 14 day bans are the warnings and the second chances, good riddance to them.

Emerald FangMay 14, 20181 votes

I think this system would be okay if someone was racist, said death threats, was inting etc. Those are one-time things that immediately result in a permaban. Mistakes happen, and those are big ones, but it only happened once. For 99% of league players, the phrase “Kys” doesn’t have real meaning behind it. I’m not saying that it should be allowed in any way, but if someone showed they were done with using “kys” as an empty threat I would be fine with a second chance.

However if this person was toxic 4 times and got 4 intermediate punishments, chances are they aren’t reforming. And they’ll probably just make another account and use it anyway.

thefourtysnMay 14, 20181 votes

No we don't need those toxic players in the League community, I don't know how hard it is to literally type in /muteall in chat. You won't see their text, and best of all you probably won't text. So it's basically a win/win for both players.

CubanThund3rMay 14, 20181 votes

Lmao all these comments of - why give them another chance - good riddence

@Flyingroboticcow it's really not good riddence because they never quit lmao that's the whole point of playing the 1000 games that they had never quit.. and still want to play all riot did was take away the money they spent on skins and let them make a new account or buy a new account it's not "good riddence" it's supporting account sellers or making level 1-30 hell for new players and if they did quit? then what? they're gonna hear about this 1000 game programme and come back?
@ JcPandit why give them another chance to what? get their 4 year old account back that they spent $1000 on. listen m8 if they can spend $1000 on skins they can buy new level 30's to ruin games. my question to you is. why not give them their account back? and on the first instance of toxcicity they get banned? in that case them getting their 4 year old account back would affect literally one game
@thefourtysn 1. you're assuming over 4 years that their attitude hasn't changed 2. "those toxic players" are still in ur community and if they aren't here anymore then this reform thing won't even affect them
@AJStarhiker your example is true. I just want to say that in this example the accounts would probably be older than 2 months - 2 years(seasons) giving a good amount of time for that player to have reformed. second, the game is way bigger than it is today and probably way less fun to grind lvl 1-30 so in season 1-2 Unless they had already been high in the ranks or REALLY wanted the money they spent on the account they were probably just playing the game for some stress relief and to direct their anger towards others, and not thinking about the possible rare skins they would be losing and stuff so it'd be like making a new account in Fortnite if you spent no money on it. you really don't care about the levels you'd lose in fortnite
@BeatzBoyFTW I can tell you from personal experience that after getting 1000 game chat mutes (yes legit those happend back in season 1-4?) I never once thought that I would get permanently banned, honestly I thought it was like as long as I don't threaten your family tell you to kys. use racist stuff that I would just keep getting chat restricts or like 7 day ban. if it's your first account and it's way back when nobody in those days actually expected a permanent ban because we had our own opinions of what is deserving of a permanent ban and it was unheard of.

again what reason is there to NOT bring back all old accounts after some appeal or 1000 games programme and then when you finally get the account. you have to go for like 6 months of (regular) playing without saying a SINGLE negative thing or you get instantly banned? again It would only affect one game.