Blue energy + ranked

MIDGETtripod·Mar 6, 2018·1 votes·376 views

So, I have leveled a new account. By the time I hit 30 I did not even have enough blue energy to buy the champs to even begin ranked. From lvl 30 to 40 I have bought a single champ. In the old system you could buy roughly 10 champs in the same 150 games. I would think blue energy needs a buff when it comes to leveling and getting players into ranked without having to wait 500 games to buy that next 6300 champ. It seems like the only way to realistically get champs is to spend money on this game.

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ModThe DjinnMar 6, 20185 votes

I'm a little puzzled. The minimum you can get from 10 levels (after level 30) is 8200 BE, which is more than enough for one champion, and easily enough for two or three lesser-priced champions. That's not even counting the 40% discount you get on using BE to upgrade a champion, which makes that enough for two 6300 champions with some left over.

Add to that the free Ashe at level 2, the free Garen at level 3, the free Brand at level 3, Tristana/Alistar (who you can get for free), Xin Zhao shard at 6, the assured Caitlyn/1350/3150/4800 shard at level 5, the assured 450 shard at 10, the assured 1350 shard at 11, the two assured 1350 shards at 18, the 4800 shard at 20, the 3150 shard at 22, 27, and 29, and the 450 shards at 27 and 29, and you've received 15 champions/shards ignoring every other champion capsule. You've also received (counting the champion capsules NOT mentioned as assured) 13,535 in BE value from the other capsules offered, which is enough to outright buy the bulk of the non-6300 champions you've gotten in those shards.

If you're buying expensive champions, sure -- you won't have enough. But you can DEFINITELY get a functional ranked pool pretty quickly.

MIDGETtripodMar 7, 20181 votes

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I'm a little puzzled. The minimum you can get from 10 levels (after level 30) is 8200 BE, which is more than enough for one champion, and easily enough for two or three lesser-priced champions. That's not even counting the 40% discount you get on using BE to upgrade a champion, which makes that enough for two 6300 champions with some left over.

Add to that the free Ashe at level 2, the free Garen at level 3, the free Brand at level 3, Tristana/Alistar (who you can get for free), Xin Zhao shard at 6, the assured Caitlyn/1350/3150/4800 shard at level 5, the assured 450 shard at 10, the assured 1350 shard at 11, the two assured 1350 shards at 18, the 4800 shard at 20, the 3150 shard at 22, 27, and 29, and the 450 shards at 27 and 29, and you've received 15 champions/shards ignoring every other champion capsule. You've also received (counting the champion capsules NOT mentioned as assured) 13,535 in BE value from the other capsules offered, which is enough to outright buy the bulk of the non-6300 champions you've gotten in those shards.

If you're buying expensive champions, sure -- you won't have enough. But you can DEFINITELY get a functional ranked pool pretty quickly.

None of those champs are on my account yet and I am level 30. The account was roughly 23 pre ip change. I bought all the low champions with all my BE at lvl 31 and still could not play ranked.

ModThe DjinnMar 7, 20181 votes

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None of those champs are on my account yet and I am level 30. The account was roughly 23 pre ip change. I bought all the low champions with all my BE at lvl 31 and still could not play ranked.

Ah, that's the issue. You got caught in between the changes. Still, from level 24 to 30 you should have gotten 2,900 BE in addition to a 4800 shard, two 3150 shards, and two 450 shards, alongside a Glorious Champion Capsule for hitting level 30. If you disenchanted the shards that were over 450, that's an additional 1,170 BE, putting you at 4070.

There are 13 champions that cost 450 or below, and you'll have shards for 2 of them, making those two cost 270 each, putting you at 3,530. You can then buy another 7 champions, putting you at 9 champions. That's nearly halfway to the requirement right there, plus the additional free champions you can get through Facebook etc.

Admittedly, you did get caught halfway between systems, which isn't great. But there's one more thing you're missing here:

##Ranked is NOT designed to be accessible immediately upon reaching 30. Most new players don't really fully grasp the game at that point, so the 20 champion requirement helps them have more time to learn before jumping into the most serious gameplay mode. This is by design.

MIDGETtripodMar 8, 20181 votes

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Ah, that's the issue. You got caught in between the changes. Still, from level 24 to 30 you should have gotten 2,900 BE in addition to a 4800 shard, two 3150 shards, and two 450 shards, alongside a Glorious Champion Capsule for hitting level 30. If you disenchanted the shards that were over 450, that's an additional 1,170 BE, putting you at 4070.

There are 13 champions that cost 450 or below, and you'll have shards for 2 of them, making those two cost 270 each, putting you at 3,530. You can then buy another 7 champions, putting you at 9 champions. That's nearly halfway to the requirement right there, plus the additional free champions you can get through Facebook etc.

Admittedly, you did get caught halfway between systems, which isn't great. But there's one more thing you're missing here:

##Ranked is NOT designed to be accessible immediately upon reaching 30. Most new players don't really fully grasp the game at that point, so the 20 champion requirement helps them have more time to learn before jumping into the most serious gameplay mode. This is by design.

Yes, your numbers absolutely make sense. I think i had a total of 2 champion shards and that 1 capsule by 30. I think I bought 6 champs with rp that were 450 or on sale. I had to level up this account from a prior ban. This used to be my alt account to decompress from ranked flamers.

MIDGETtripodMar 7, 20181 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dTRGs3om,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-06T13:58:44.245+0000)

I'm a little puzzled. The minimum you can get from 10 levels (after level 30) is 8200 BE, which is more than enough for one champion, and easily enough for two or three lesser-priced champions. That's not even counting the 40% discount you get on using BE to upgrade a champion, which makes that enough for two 6300 champions with some left over.

Add to that the free Ashe at level 2, the free Garen at level 3, the free Brand at level 3, Tristana/Alistar (who you can get for free), Xin Zhao shard at 6, the assured Caitlyn/1350/3150/4800 shard at level 5, the assured 450 shard at 10, the assured 1350 shard at 11, the two assured 1350 shards at 18, the 4800 shard at 20, the 3150 shard at 22, 27, and 29, and the 450 shards at 27 and 29, and you've received 15 champions/shards ignoring every other champion capsule. You've also received (counting the champion capsules NOT mentioned as assured) 13,535 in BE value from the other capsules offered, which is enough to outright buy the bulk of the non-6300 champions you've gotten in those shards.

If you're buying expensive champions, sure -- you won't have enough. But you can DEFINITELY get a functional ranked pool pretty quickly.

They may have just not adjusted accounts played prior to this update then. I had 2 champion shards I could use with the 4k blue energy I had from i think 23-30. 13535 blue energy is no where near close to what I had on my account available. I had to buy rp and buy 8 450 champs just to play ranked.

ModThe DjinnMar 7, 20181 votes

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They may have just not adjusted accounts played prior to this update then. I had 2 champion shards I could use with the 4k blue energy I had from i think 23-30. 13535 blue energy is no where near close to what I had on my account available. I had to buy rp and buy 8 450 champs just to play ranked.

You started over two thirds through the level up process, which likely accounts for that. The numbers I gave were under the impression that you had indeed started a new account from level 1.

Kei143Mar 6, 20183 votes

Wrong boards, but your numbers are off.

MIDGETtripodMar 7, 20181 votes

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Wrong boards, but your numbers are off.

I did not have an option where to post when making this btw. I would hope it gets moved to proper boards

Kei143Mar 7, 20181 votes

You do, just don't click on "create discussion" while you are in behavior boards.

The moderators here also don't have the ability to move posts. Limited through technical reasons.

Awf MetaMar 6, 20181 votes

To get enough champions to play ranked is possible.

To get enough of the champions you want is not guaranteed.

I see it as a money making strategy. Good luck convincing a company to stop trying to make money.

MIDGETtripodMar 7, 20181 votes

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To get enough champions to play ranked is possible.

To get enough of the champions you want is not guaranteed.

I see it as a money making strategy. Good luck convincing a company to stop trying to make money.

I had roughly 4k blue energy at lvl 30 without buying any champs at all. I played with the free champs and could not play ranked with the energy I had available.

Awf MetaMar 7, 20181 votes

At level 10 I had 5080 BE.

It looks like The Djinn explained what happened to you.