How are people supposed to reform when...

The Highest Noon·Oct 10, 2017·4 votes·489 views

"Hey, most of them are dead. Let's get dragon while it's free"

FULL HEALTH JUNGLER GOES TO FIGHT WOLVES WHILE FULL HEALTH ADC GOES B

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

"Ace! Now let's push mid and win!"

TOP GOES BOT MID GOES TOP ADC GOES JUNGLE

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

"ok their jungler and adc are dead let's get baron"

EVERYONE ELSE AFKS AT FOUNTAIN AT THE SAME TIME!?

[sg-janna]

It's just...so difficult to not shout at teammates, sometimes. I manage to not, but man. It's just so frustrating to know that the reason you're losing is because of other people's choices. And no matter what you do, it's those choices that decide your standing within the ladder.

15 Comments

Wasabi KittyOct 10, 20174 votes

By focusing on yourself.

If you're at an elo where people make these kind of mistakes frequently then you have a lot of improving to do as an individual. If you focus less on your team and more on yourself, you'll not only avoid getting banned, you'll also climb.

MadMad SicknessOct 10, 20171 votes

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By focusing on yourself.

If you're at an elo where people make these kind of mistakes frequently then you have a lot of improving to do as an individual. If you focus less on your team and more on yourself, you'll not only avoid getting banned, you'll also climb.

This guy gets it.

Kudos.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The Highest NoonOct 10, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wasabi Kitty,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dATl2sV9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-10T06:25:05.925+0000)

By focusing on yourself.

If you're at an elo where people make these kind of mistakes frequently then you have a lot of improving to do as an individual. If you focus less on your team and more on yourself, you'll not only avoid getting banned, you'll also climb.

I mean, yeah I'm sure I do need to improve on my skills in mind-controlling people. But no matter what I do, I only have so much influence on others. I'll have to take a look at that pdf tho. And get good with AD bard.

Wasabi KittyOct 11, 20171 votes

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I mean, yeah I'm sure I do need to improve on my skills in mind-controlling people. But no matter what I do, I only have so much influence on others. I'll have to take a look at that pdf tho. And get good with AD bard.

No you don't need to work on "controlling your teammates" better. You need to work on playing better as an individual. I'm sure any plat+ or even gold player could spectate one of your game and point a TON of mistakes that you make.

The Highest NoonOct 21, 20171 votes

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No you don't need to work on "controlling your teammates" better. You need to work on playing better as an individual. I'm sure any plat+ or even gold player could spectate one of your game and point a TON of mistakes that you make.

I'm sure they could, tbh. I'm sure they could also point out the 0-11 galeo support with first-tier support item and the 3-8 Lucian building assassin instead of ADC, too. The more I play in this elo the more I hate everything about this game.

Wasabi KittyOct 22, 20171 votes

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I'm sure they could, tbh. I'm sure they could also point out the 0-11 galeo support with first-tier support item and the 3-8 Lucian building assassin instead of ADC, too. The more I play in this elo the more I hate everything about this game.

If you hate the elo then get better and get out of it.

MadMad SicknessOct 10, 20171 votes

well you can also scream at them from wherever your playing at, or in your own mind while maintaining your own self-control in-game.

Real-life (directed at the computer screen) response:

"WHY, WHY, WHY. WHY DIDN'T YOU BACK WHEN I TOLD YOU TO, NOW WE BOTH DIED... WTF -insert verbal abuse here-"

Actual In-game response:

"ugh, don't worry about it" "we got this"

Continual in-game response:

"we got this" "it's np" "we can come back" "we'll try again next time"

As long as you aren't directly, negatively affecting another person's game-play experience then your all good. Maintaining positivity and composure in the face of adversity are all things that contribute to a having a mature outlook in life and it's something you'll continually do throughout your life.

There are places and times when it's ok for you to let out your stress, such as making a thread on boards LOL.

The Highest NoonOct 10, 20171 votes

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As long as you aren't directly, negatively affecting another person's game-play experience then your all good. Maintaining positivity and composure in the face of adversity are all things that contribute to a having a mature outlook in life and it's something you'll continually do throughout your life.

There are places and times when it's ok for you to let out your stress, such as making a thread on boards LOL.

I don't think I could live by shelfing all my emotions and thoughts just to say "better luck next time" lol but I've been working on turning negativity into positivity. BUT WHAT DO WHEN DON'T WORK

MadMad SicknessOct 10, 20172 votes

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I don't think I could live by shelfing all my emotions and thoughts just to say "better luck next time" lol but I've been working on turning negativity into positivity. BUT WHAT DO WHEN DON'T WORK

Well i guess that's a personal choice then lol. We are free to do whatever we want to do, and we are also free to receive the repercussions of our own choices. But shelving emotions is a good skill to have though LOL.

it can get you farther in life than people who rant on and care very little about others. Ever read: "how to win friends and influence people"? the pdf is free

As for when it doesn't work: its not supposed to work all the time. However, doing it does put you in a better position for it to work all the time.

But for when it doesn't work... just que up again and try again. You can always just que up again, or play arams, or play with friends.

There are ways to de-tilt yourself.

Lord of MathOct 10, 20171 votes

I will often make passive aggressive comments, but then make it clear that It is also my fault for those situations. Also, full health does not mean the same as ready to fight drake or baron. Cooldown on smite is one thing, plus mana at the moment impact the decision. For example if I am jungle and we just killed the enemy jungle and midlaner and I am oom and have no smite while we lost our top, I am not going to want to engage the drake asap. A back fr me to regen Mana plus the ADC to buy a lifesteal item to sustain the damage. Otherwise the attempt to baron may very well fail due to it out damaging you, then you wasted time. Also if you think that the team should take drake, then start punching it. If people do no start following you soon, then leave and complain that your team does not follow up in all chat. Then next time they will ignore you even harder and your enemies will notice and try to take drake while your team ignores you asking for help in contesting drake from the enemy team, while you can just jump in take drake, and lead the enemy team into your adc and support where they proceed to wreck faces because they chased you.

The Highest NoonOct 10, 20171 votes

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I will often make passive aggressive comments, but then make it clear that It is also my fault for those situations. Also, full health does not mean the same as ready to fight drake or baron. Cooldown on smite is one thing, plus mana at the moment impact the decision. For example if I am jungle and we just killed the enemy jungle and midlaner and I am oom and have no smite while we lost our top, I am not going to want to engage the drake asap. A back fr me to regen Mana plus the ADC to buy a lifesteal item to sustain the damage. Otherwise the attempt to baron may very well fail due to it out damaging you, then you wasted time. Also if you think that the team should take drake, then start punching it. If people do no start following you soon, then leave and complain that your team does not follow up in all chat. Then next time they will ignore you even harder and your enemies will notice and try to take drake while your team ignores you asking for help in contesting drake from the enemy team, while you can just jump in take drake, and lead the enemy team into your adc and support where they proceed to wreck faces because they chased you.

You're right...

if I were talking about those situations, of course. People generally don't complain about good decisions, they complain about bad ones. You're speaking on the assumption that everything someone does that I'm referring to are good decisions, when they're not. Smite isn't on a cooldown. There are no mana issues. The ADC doesn't need to get lifesteal to take the first dragon with the rest of the team. Bad decisions are being made.

Lord of MathOct 10, 20172 votes

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You're right...

if I were talking about those situations, of course. People generally don't complain about good decisions, they complain about bad ones. You're speaking on the assumption that everything someone does that I'm referring to are good decisions, when they're not. Smite isn't on a cooldown. There are no mana issues. The ADC doesn't need to get lifesteal to take the first dragon with the rest of the team. Bad decisions are being made.

Well you did not give us the information about that, so I decided to be a smart ass. Toxicity can be done right. Also, I just laugh off the bad decisions because I was raised in a household where we insult each other 24/7 and I play bard so I will just build damage t that point and carry the game because the enemy only sees a balloon and will chase me into baron pit where I stun them for a free kill.

DrugothOct 10, 20171 votes

Alright, now that you've identified the problem: You can't control your teammates. It's time to focus on the solution.

So what is the one guaranteed constant in every one of your games? You're in it. You can control yourself.

Imo focus on what you can change and forget about the shit you can do nothing about.

The Highest NoonOct 10, 20171 votes

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Imo focus on what you can change and forget about the shit you can do nothing about.

That's been my first step in reforming. First I looked at the obvious problems. Bad plays receive bad reactions and bad reactions make bad plays. So I went to youtube, looked at some videos about how to play better, and realized a few things. Now I'm making better decisions in games while staying positive in chat and encouraging everyone.

That's simple when you're dealing with people who actually wish to learn, play better, and/or win. What I know yet know how to deal with are those who don't care about any of that and just want to play the game the way they want to play it. Those types of people are allowed in the ranked game mode and when you've been in Silver for as long as I have you realize that those types of people are more common than you'd think.

Anywho, trying to figure out how to respond to that is my current problem.

DrugothOct 10, 20172 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Looks like you've got things figured out. About those fuckers that don't care though, just don't sweat it!