Do you help your team if they flaming and harassing you ?

verysalt·6/3/2018, 9:05:38 AM·2 votes·1,223 views

I just had a game where I was carry multiple skirmishes and clearly we had full advantage. Dudes never went to secure dragons and I promised not to help any more if team don't go for objectives. The hell opened. Because I didn't help in next skirmish my team mates started flaming me and harassing. The point is: because they were flaming me I refused to help them. We lost even though we had undeniable advantage. The lesson: some players rather lose than helps flamers.

How about you, would you help flamers and win or you rather make them lose and after game enjoy getting instant feedback on them ?

8 Comments

Shukr4n6/3/2018, 10:14:50 AM4 votes

Fullmute and play at your max

Warlord Rhinark6/3/2018, 10:08:30 AM3 votes

You can get instant feedback on them regardless of if you help them or not.

Not helping them only leads to you losing.

That's literally the only thing you get out of it.

I wouldn't say that's worth it.

Go help your team next time.

Umbral Regent6/3/2018, 10:42:22 AM3 votes

Here's the thing: Regardless of how much your team is flaming you for god knows whatever reason, you all are on the same team, working towards the same goal: Destruction of the enemy Nexus. If you are not playing to win, you should not be playing at all. Deciding not to help your team over flaming (which can easily be muted) makes you extremely petty, and twice as bad as the flamers themselves.

So, yes - as long as the people flaming you are on your team, you are obligated to help them win. You don't need to like them, you just need to actually be trying to win.

And, as Warlord Rhinark said, your reports would be valid against them regardless of whether you win or lose.

Intentionally throwing the match only makes you a troll, so, there's genuinely nothing to be gained from intentionally throwing.

Vlada Cut6/3/2018, 11:19:04 AM2 votes

As satisfying it is to make those infatile flamers rage even more, it would be pointless to do so if it was ranked. Few times I got in the same situation as you and as long as I was helping them they chilled a bit. They aren't flaming you because they hate you, because you simply threw the game off the window for them. Why become one of them when you can show them that you're better than that....

woodvsmurph6/3/2018, 11:54:46 AM1 votes

I try to go along with team strat at least a few times even if I know it's stupid; at least if they won't listen to a better shotcall. And hopefully after a few times of failing, my team is smart enough to realize the calls are garbage and listen to someone else. Usually not true, but I can always hope and give them benefit of the doubt. When that fails though, I'll just ignore/mute and do what I know is best - within the unfortunate realm of having to play around their continued wrong decision-making in many cases.

In a non-demeaning manner, I'll sometimes point out how what I predicted/warned about came to pass after they do some play or point out how one person on team being selfish (like doing krugs when we're about to teamfight for infernal on other half of map in 15 sec) cost the whole team and/or that player and how the price we/they paid is much higher than the reward. Sometimes it actually starts to sink in and people start to listen up.

I try hard not to fall back into hard flaming people, but it can be difficult. Too many games I see one or more teammates whose attitude is basically they would rather lose the game than let their teammate(s) carry them. Either they get to solo carry, or they'll make sure nobody on our team can carry. That kind of shitty attitude and gameplay should get them banned. But it doesn't. Unfortunately 90% of players seem to think such players are perfectly acceptable and should be defended, but any kind of toxicity that is more than merely implied is not acceptable no matter how much provocation via inting and/or very obviously implied harassment and toxicity was involved to trigger said explicit toxicity. It's sad but true. If the inting trolls and obvious but implied harassment and toxicity were properly dealt with and therefore weeded out of the game, you'd see a ton less explicit toxicity. But all you get for asking for something like this to be done is toxicity from the very people defending intentional feeders and calling you a terrible person for becoming toxic at such players. Kind of ironic; the anti-toxicity people going all toxic on the "toxic" players for asking for justice against people who try their best to ruin their matches via feeding and less obvious toxicity directed at the "toxic" players before said individuals ever become "toxic" by being pushed over the edge. But alas, nobody realizes or admits this - besides the ones calling for inting to be punished... which is a very small minority.

Paíntchip6/3/2018, 12:07:38 PM1 votes

Fuck them. Do your own thing to try and win on your own. Maybe next time the little shits won’t treat their own team mates like trash. Basically the vast majority who play this game are the kids who always got the candy bar when they cried for it in the store. They should have gotten smacked in the back of the head and told to knock it off instead. So, essentially you are playing with people who have always gotten their way, so I say fuck them and try to win your own way. They’ll either get smart, orthers will do the same to them.

Xidphel6/3/2018, 4:25:04 PM1 votes

Problem is, I still need them to win. I still help after muting them. No use throwing the game because of some assholes.