You Should be able to Report People for not Surrendering

supple hams·7/9/2017, 9:06:41 PM·2 votes·1,146 views

While yes, everyone should have the ability to vote no to a surrender if they want to keep playing, there are definitely times when it is just toxic/rude behavior.

TL:DR - I said mean things to rude people (a duo Queue), and got stuck playing a game for 30 minutes longer than I should have out of spite.

To preface my argument: yes, I do become a rude/toxic player occasionally. I lose my temper relatively easily when people are rude to me and/or other players, not because they are bad at the game. And in this case, I was also being pretty mean. (I am the mid-laner in this scenario)

I entered a game today with my friend. Recently, I have been losing most of my games, and as it turns out, almost every game I am match-made into, my team has lower ranks and win-rates than the enemy team. (Checked via lolnexus, so I'm not too sure how accurate the website is) And alot of the time it is a substantially large margin; I'm already irritated by the game.

The game was decently well for a few minutes, but shortly I noticed that my jungler was not very good. I tried to direct him using pings and messages, but he decided to ignore all direction. I was faced in an almost-2-v-1 situation in mid. Either the enemy jungler or enemy support was mid at pretty much all times. Throughout the entire laning phase, our jungler did not gank a single lane. He died a couple times to the enemy jungler, starting at around 12 minutes in. After numerous attempts to get our jungler to assist anyone on our team, I did try to goad him rudely at about 13 minutes in to gank, and he responded in kind (insulting).

At 15 minutes, we attempted a surrender, and two people (him and his duo partner) did not surrender. At this point in the game, I was the only person with kills. "We can still win this" is what he said. 3 Minutes passed and our situation is now worse than before. We got a couple kills, but the enemy team was up 18 to 3. The second surrender vote did not go through. At this point, I was losing my patience with the ridiculous jungler and his partner. I did become pretty angry at this point, and I started saying rude/toxic things to the other party.

The other three players (me, my partner, and a random), literally begged the other two players to surrender, and they continued to hold the vote. This game continued for 30 minutes, solely because the three players who were trying to surrender, repeatedly held off the enemy team. Because if we did not, then we could be reported for having a negative attitude/intentionally feeding. The two players who voted no on all of the surrender votes, were doing very poorly, and were not even able to assist the team in fights.

After the game, I tried to have a real conversation with the other party. At this point, both of them were now being rude as well as hypocritical. The jungler said that he was trying to learn how to play in the jungle, and I play jungle quite a bit, so I tried to help him. Instead of attempting to take any criticism, he heavily insulted me, and then told me not to flame as he left, while flaming me.

I told both teams to report me, but to also report the players who did not surrender. It was at this point that I realized that there is no report option for this. Like I said previously, I do understand that all players should be able to vote no (They were a duo, so they could hold the vote indefinitely). Players should also be prepared to play longer matches (which I was). But the fact that I cannot report two players for forcing three other players to play out a game that they do not want to play, as well as have an excessively low chance of winning, seems ridiculous.

I was very rude, and I am fine with being banned because of it. I do deserve it occasionally, but the fact that there is no way to punish these people, because their toxic behavior was in the form of not surrendering rather than verbal abuse, makes me very irritated. I cannot put this under the negative attitude bracket either, because it specifically says "giving up".

I see alot of posts that talk about why people don't surrender. 1st, this was a normal match. 2nd, while the jungler said that he was doing it to learn (but didn't want advice/criticism) his duo partner clearly said that they didn't surrender specifically because I was in the match.

12 Comments

Cup of Cocoa7/9/2017, 10:11:25 PM2 votes

Just because people don't want the game to end doesn't mean they should be punished for it. This suggestion is pretty childish. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Yeah, it sucks that the duo did something like that, but that doesn't mean a case like that will happen to everyone else. It would be extremely unfair if innocent people got banned JUST BECAUSE they actually saw a chance at turning the game around towards winning and didn't surrender because of that.

TheViper79117/10/2017, 8:56:41 AM2 votes

I have my voting rights and you will not tell me how to use them.

deathgod57/9/2017, 9:17:02 PM1 votes

I mean then it makes more sense to simply report him for flaming and negative attitude.

also if you would make this an option should you just not enable it to auto surrender if a majority vote(3v2) get's passed? Seems like an easier option then to make it an auto surrender.

Lune201512/1/2017, 10:52:49 PM1 votes

Remove surrender option!

Mindspeaker12/2/2017, 1:50:11 AM1 votes

...sigh responded to a necro thread again ......

Shubham Sharma7/9/2017, 10:13:04 PM1 votes

lol nexus shows all ranked wins and losses, together for flex and solo Q so someone like me who only really plays solo Q but drank 9 shots and played flex with friends all day and lose like 20 games in a row str8 trolling (in premade 5 man so no victims but ourselves) lol nexus won't always show true skill or WR, where as my solo Win rate is pretty decent 60% in diamond 2 ATM, and I don't really play 3v3 but I did a little bit. Better to click the name and check what they do in the Queue you're playing in for a slightly more accurate estimate of how the player normally plays that champ or ranked/norm whatever

This Is Your Dad7/9/2017, 9:22:26 PM1 votes

The only time this ever occurred to me was when I had an intentional feeder ashe that voted no on the early surrender and said in chat to the enemy team "They tried to surrender lol but I voted no to make them suffer, coming down mid next." Edit: Just out of curiosity I checked back on this person and they're still running it down mid. Holy jesus they're on a like a 12 game losing streak with a 28% win rate right now. As long as you build normally you can tell people you're intentionally feeding and just run it down mid.