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The Return of Tribunal is the ONLY thing that can save lol

Resurrerection·5/28/2017, 5:16:59 PM·4 votes·784 views

Many people in and out of the community largely agree, lol is toxic. This is a massive issue that's never going to get solved unless some major changes happen. Like fixing and returning tribunal to use. I get that it's down for maintenance however it's been down for so long, and lol has become unimaginably toxic in that time, e.g. I literally have a higher chance of being told to kill myself than not being told to now.

I was also compelled to make this discussion because the vast amount of players that are disgustingly hateful and rude with no provocation (and trust me, it's not like they're tilted, I check match history before reporting), my last 3 matches all had a chat with literally no team work and was made of mostly death threats and hate speech. It's genuinely disappointing that I have come to thinking that any form of communication other than pings/simple emoji's is a bad idea at low elo (where because of the lack of a need to be professional as there is no spotlight on you).

As this is a serious post please be civil and polite in the comments and remember that constructive criticism is always welcome and needed to make this post popular enough to be seen by enough people to have an impact.

  • Sincerely, a very frustrated and tired long time league player.

Edit - I saw the new post and I'm truly excited, I will be deleting this post soon so, don't bother commenting.

30 Comments

Imperial Pandaa5/28/2017, 5:41:25 PM3 votes

See, I wonder how a marriage between the Tribunal and IFS would be. The IFS could be the first line. Being used to detect and forward cases to the tribunal. However, I feel it would be beneficial if there were restrictions on who can volunteer to be a part of Tribunal. I.E. people not already on the punishment tiers. That might seem harsh, but there seems to be quite a few who don't agree when they get bans and only a handful of those tend to be reasonable. That might seem harsh to those who only have Chat Restrictions, but I feel it would help prevent abuse. If they happen to revamp the honor/positive behavior system well enough, maybe only let those players volunteer. Obviously there would need to be other stipulations in place as well (Rank 30, etc...)

Also, get rid of the payout that used to exist. Yes, getting some ip might be nice, but too often (from what I understand) did this result in auto clicking a decision just for that.

Now the other benefit of the marriage. IFS would be able to continue evolving based on decisions from the tribunal, improve its parameters.

Live2LetDie5/28/2017, 5:45:03 PM3 votes

There would not be enough time in the day to go through all the reports. I pumped the math out years ago on the forums and it's only increased with the player base size.

MUSHROOM MIDGET5/28/2017, 5:35:52 PM2 votes

i dont think you realize just how many trolls are out there. do you think the trolls would stay away from the tribunal? no they would love it. constantly trying to get people banned who do not deserve it.

this means a lot of cases would be false punishments which means riot would have to manually review a lot more to decide if punishments were really deserved. which is exactly what they do not want to do.

Kei1435/28/2017, 8:32:13 PM2 votes

you just think the system isn't working cos you don't see it working. doesn't mean it's not working.

ModPeriscope5/28/2017, 5:28:45 PM1 votes

I don't think you'll ever truly eliminate all of toxicity. We are on the internet, and anonymity grants freedom from real-life punishment for saying whatever comes to mind.

Overall, I think we all want toxicity reduced as much as possible. This involves detection, punishment, and reform. Riot has targeted these three areas to better reduce the toxicity: better detection leads to quicker punishment; better punishment (punishment fitting the crime[s]) deters more toxicity; better reform reduces the number of toxic players. So the Instant Feedback System targets the first two, and I think it does a sufficient job of this.

The Tribunal had many errors with dealing with those two quantities. As for detection, it was left up to volunteers. Due to case load and bias, players could be inadvertently punished or they'd be punished a great deal of time after their reportable behavior occurred. I can't speak too much for the punishments, but if the detection was off, then the punishment would also not be appropriate.

We should probably work better towards reform, which is one reason why you see Arbiters and volunteers on here. It's one way to improve in-game behavior and help players to reform.

I literally have a higher chance of being told to kill myself than not being told to now.

I personally find "kys" statements and racist statements rare, perhaps because these topics are swiftly and heavily punished.

Joxcab6/2/2017, 2:47:33 PM1 votes

The Tribunal was far more horrible in literally every single way. Hell no. The instant system works almost perfectly fine.