Should Riot be permanently banning accounts without looking at the gameplay footage?

MAD is OOB gg·2/7/2016, 11:01:00 PM·4 votes·1,149 views

Recently my account was permanently banned by riot. I'm not here to say that all permabans are not deserved. I'm also not here to argue that my case was deserved or undeserved. I'm simply here to say that people can have toxic gameplay and that the system should take this into account when using action against someone. At some point or another we have all seen it. We all get that teammate that wont stop following us around trying to contest every cs or jungle camp we go to. The person in my case was clearly looking for a reaction and I sadly gave it to him by calling him "a little shit". What I'm trying to get at is that not every case is black and white based off the text alone. If you just look at the text of the game completely removed from the situation that is happening in the game, it would appear as harassment. If you look at the gameplay leading up to this point in the chat log it would not appear to be outright harassment, for the other person was clearly doing something to cause this reaction. Sure I did not need to make any comment to him at all, I probably would still have an account if I didn't. I still think that the system needs to incorporate the replay of the game to make a more informed decision on whether that player truly deserves the punishment received.

24 Comments

The Queen Viper2/8/2016, 12:27:55 AM5 votes

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Should Riot be permanently banning accounts without looking at the gameplay footage?

Yes. Gameplay footage is irrelevant.

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What I'm trying to get at is that not every case is black and white based off the text alone.

Incorrect.

Just because he probably did something wrong, doesn't justify your wrongdoings.

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If you just look at the text of the game completely removed from the situation that is happening in the game, it would appear as harassment.

That's because it was. Adding more "context" won't help and is irrelevant.

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If you look at the gameplay leading up to this point in the chat log it would not appear to be outright harassment, for the other person was clearly doing something to cause this reaction.

So why did you feed the troll ?

Don't do it.

You failed.

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Sure I did not need to make any comment to him at all, I probably would still have an account if I didn't.

Nope. You don't get permabanned because of one single game.

You are toxic, and your brain can't handle this game.

Go play something else, people don't want you here.

PIMPSMOOTH2/8/2016, 12:25:23 AM5 votes

"Should Riot be permanently banning accounts without looking at the gameplay footage? "

Absolutely. The last thing Riot needs to be doing is paying some poor souls to waste their lives reviewing matches when the system in place is working as intended. Players who get perma banned deserve it and know they're breaking the rules en route to their bans.

Riot has it's hands full doing wayyyyyyyy more important tasks such as attempting to balance the game, bug fixes, create/implement new content, etc etc.

PIMPSMOOTH2/8/2016, 12:30:07 AM3 votes

Correctamundo Meillinii [zombie-nunu-hearts]

MeilinII2/7/2016, 11:03:21 PM2 votes

Post the reform card/chat logs. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn] If you retaliated, ban deserved. Two wrongs don't make a right.

MAD is OOB gg2/7/2016, 11:11:38 PM1 votes

The problem is how many games this actually takes place in. To say I deserve a ban means you think that over half the people who play deserve a ban.

MAD is OOB gg2/8/2016, 1:25:54 AM1 votes

lol thanks for your intelligent input.

Dominick Destine2/8/2016, 9:11:34 PM1 votes

Nope.

While there are certain middle of the road behaviors that are very hard to detect (Ex: Tryndamere Excssive split pushing can sometimes be the equivalent of intentionally throwing the game... other times it will lead to a win) but the system does a decent job of differentiating toxic gameplay and non-toxic gameplay (I.e. intentional feed vs. just having a terrible game).

Samus722/8/2016, 9:27:18 PM1 votes

It depends.

Were you reported for being AFK? Unless there is a way to see that you were AFK other than watching the game itself, I'd watch the game and see. Are you reported for bad language? All that is needed is a chat log.