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Is this considered toxic? If it is, I will most likely uninstall

NoLongerToxicOMG·6/23/2019, 1:14:23 AM·2 votes·2,262 views

Game 1 In-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: mines 2g, so no NoLongerToxicOMG: why are you alone? NoLongerToxicOMG: change your screen to borderless NoLongerToxicOMG: fullscreen then NoLongerToxicOMG: olaf you need to gank to win NoLongerToxicOMG: you cant farm all fuckin game NoLongerToxicOMG: Im done NoLongerToxicOMG: mid open NoLongerToxicOMG: better jg wins NoLongerToxicOMG: olaf just afk farms all game and doesnt gank mid or top NoLongerToxicOMG: just botlane NoLongerToxicOMG: no shit? NoLongerToxicOMG: sucks doesnt it NoLongerToxicOMG: when no one helps you NoLongerToxicOMG: shes been mid more than you NoLongerToxicOMG: you have ganked mid 0 times NoLongerToxicOMG: she ganked mid 3 times NoLongerToxicOMG: theres a difference NoLongerToxicOMG: lets do a recap NoLongerToxicOMG: you have gotten a dragon NoLongerToxicOMG: you havent ganked mid once NoLongerToxicOMG: why should I help you when you dont help me? NoLongerToxicOMG: what lead? NoLongerToxicOMG: I didnt give up NoLongerToxicOMG: I asked for help NoLongerToxicOMG: but no jg was presence in this game NoLongerToxicOMG: babysit? YOU NEVER CAME MID ONCE? NoLongerToxicOMG: shyvanna ganked mid 3 times to your 0 ganks mid NoLongerToxicOMG: hey jg maybe you can get one dragon? NoLongerToxicOMG: trying my best here NoLongerToxicOMG: nice cait NoLongerToxicOMG: yeah we get it, youre the better jg NoLongerToxicOMG: gg NoLongerToxicOMG: better jg wins Post-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXMD6wmcwvE&t=77s NoLongerToxicOMG: Oh am I? NoLongerToxicOMG: You got one drag NoLongerToxicOMG: they got 2 infernals and rift NoLongerToxicOMG: and you never ganked mid once Game 2 In-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: you saw that? NoLongerToxicOMG: how are you so underleveled NoLongerToxicOMG: sure NoLongerToxicOMG: zac casused you to have less cs NoLongerToxicOMG: 27 cs to 88 NoLongerToxicOMG: then dont follow him NoLongerToxicOMG: get out of my lane NoLongerToxicOMG: or get reported and banned NoLongerToxicOMG: ty for red buff NoLongerToxicOMG: I didnt need you at all NoLongerToxicOMG: you fed them a kill and did no damage NoLongerToxicOMG: ???? NoLongerToxicOMG: report ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: super toxic NoLongerToxicOMG: blames everyone expect him self NoLongerToxicOMG: just mute him zax NoLongerToxicOMG: hes crybaby NoLongerToxicOMG: he wont stop whinning NoLongerToxicOMG: seriously NoLongerToxicOMG: we can win NoLongerToxicOMG: now its over NoLongerToxicOMG: its over NoLongerToxicOMG: gg NoLongerToxicOMG: talon NoLongerToxicOMG: you couldnt kill me if you were fed and 10 lvls ahead NoLongerToxicOMG: vote yes NoLongerToxicOMG: next match Post-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: report this toxic ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: What? NoLongerToxicOMG: WE? NoLongerToxicOMG: ^ NoLongerToxicOMG: Enjoy your ban Game 3 Pre-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: so ban teemo then NoLongerToxicOMG: Why ban GP? NoLongerToxicOMG: Hes never played in this elo NoLongerToxicOMG: So can the item QSS NoLongerToxicOMG: Quick silver sache counters mordes ult and only cost 900 gold NoLongerToxicOMG: Because most people dont know NoLongerToxicOMG: A super long range mage vs a melee assassin with a short jump NoLongerToxicOMG: hmmm In-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: he has a bad early pre 8 NoLongerToxicOMG: pre6* NoLongerToxicOMG: No, Kass NoLongerToxicOMG: No it doesnt NoLongerToxicOMG: luck is for irons NoLongerToxicOMG: why dont I have flash? NoLongerToxicOMG: Every game I do NoLongerToxicOMG: But the game gives me Heal this game NoLongerToxicOMG: so fucking buggy this ga,e NoLongerToxicOMG: fucking ping it NoLongerToxicOMG: ofc the game fucks me by giving me heal NoLongerToxicOMG: You shouldnt rely on crutches NoLongerToxicOMG: bye NoLongerToxicOMG: Yeah I scale hard mid to late bud NoLongerToxicOMG: Like oneshots from range NoLongerToxicOMG: in this elo? theyre bad NoLongerToxicOMG: bad NoLongerToxicOMG: do it yourself NoLongerToxicOMG: better go top kasss NoLongerToxicOMG: I wasnt in lane mia NoLongerToxicOMG: youre not in lane? NoLongerToxicOMG: WHERE IS HE?> NoLongerToxicOMG: You gotta kill me once in a while kass NoLongerToxicOMG: aparrently it is meta since kass is 1/5 lul NoLongerToxicOMG: you need a strong early to have a okay lat kass NoLongerToxicOMG: Cleary I have since I am owning you NoLongerToxicOMG: pls stop sivir NoLongerToxicOMG: I need that NoLongerToxicOMG: Not really NoLongerToxicOMG: you lost inhib tower NoLongerToxicOMG: thats huge NoLongerToxicOMG: Wtf is this lag? NoLongerToxicOMG: how do I enable my ping in the top right? NoLongerToxicOMG: was free yet no one was there NoLongerToxicOMG: only 3 people NoLongerToxicOMG: I was too and sivir NoLongerToxicOMG: But evey and Pyke were not NoLongerToxicOMG: you lose spliting NoLongerToxicOMG: its over NoLongerToxicOMG: fed morde is impossible to kill NoLongerToxicOMG: Urgot NoLongerToxicOMG: 14 deaths NoLongerToxicOMG: stfu 4/6 NoLongerToxicOMG: haha nice 3 inhibs buddy NoLongerToxicOMG: no towers and we have baron NoLongerToxicOMG: fuck dragon NoLongerToxicOMG: push mid NoLongerToxicOMG: IKR NoLongerToxicOMG: but the same wanted the stupid fucking dragon NoLongerToxicOMG: ^ NoLongerToxicOMG: we have baron NoLongerToxicOMG: way better than elder NoLongerToxicOMG: group base NoLongerToxicOMG: ^^^^ NoLongerToxicOMG: Group with urgot NoLongerToxicOMG: push mid and win NoLongerToxicOMG: ? NoLongerToxicOMG: GG Post-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: Remember what I said kass NoLongerToxicOMG: Kass players in low elo are bad NoLongerToxicOMG: You only killed me twice this game NoLongerToxicOMG: ? NoLongerToxicOMG: Later crybaby

I can give context: Game 1: Olaf our jg was blaming me for losing mid tower early when I needed help since he was afk farming all game and not ganking. Game 2: Ezreal was super toxic towards the team and left bot lane since he was bullied by his enemy adc, then decided to come to my mid lane and farm my cs. Game 3: I am talking to kassadin , My enemy mid laner all game that kept shit talking me.

Is this worth a 14 day suspension since I really didn't say anything vulgar or hate speech, Also if its important, I carried and won 2/3 of these games, so I don't know how was I suspended for griefing.

19 Comments

IR3ALLY3NJOYC0CK6/23/2019, 1:32:23 AM8 votes

welp time to uninstall

Hotarµ6/23/2019, 1:32:31 AM6 votes

Is this considered toxic?

I've highlighted these messages in particular for a more detailed explanation but overall yes, these games were toxic and against the rules.

##Game 1:

NoLongerToxicOMG: you cant farm all fuckin game NoLongerToxicOMG: Im done NoLongerToxicOMG: mid open NoLongerToxicOMG: better jg wins NoLongerToxicOMG: lets do a recap NoLongerToxicOMG: you have gotten a dragon NoLongerToxicOMG: you havent ganked mid once NoLongerToxicOMG: why should I help you when you dont help me?"

Straight from the jump you're forcibly telling other players what to do, then berating them or giving up when they don't perform the way you want them to.

If your jungler isn't ganking you, insulting them by saying "I'm done, mid open, better JG wins" isn't going to make them more likely to gank you, it makes them more likely to ignore you. You're also wagering the status of the game on this argument, because your jungler didn't help you (whether intentional or not) you're purposefully going to be a detriment to your team by refusing to help them.

To keep it short, be the bigger person and just walk away. It's not about getting the last word in or playing a certain way out of spite, it's about winning the game and keeping your composure. If you can't cooperate with your teammates, mute them and focus on how you can improve the situation.

##Game 2:

NoLongerToxicOMG: get out of my lane NoLongerToxicOMG: or get reported and banned NoLongerToxicOMG: you fed them a kill and did no damage NoLongerToxicOMG: report ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: hes crybaby NoLongerToxicOMG: he wont stop whinning NoLongerToxicOMG: now its over NoLongerToxicOMG: its over NoLongerToxicOMG: gg NoLongerToxicOMG: report this toxic ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: Enjoy your ban

Continually asking for reports can be considered player harassment as it doesn't do anything to better the situation and it won't result in punishments being doled out more often. It takes one report to trigger a game for automatic review, you don't need to ask other players to report Ezreal.

On top of that, using reports as a weapon (saying things like "enjoy your ban" and "get reported and banned") is spiteful, unhelpful, and negative. Same thing as above, be the bigger person and walk away. If they make a bad play, tell them constructively how they can play better and help them, don't berate them for it.

Everyone makes mistakes.

##Game 3

Pre-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: in this elo? theyre bad NoLongerToxicOMG: bad NoLongerToxicOMG: do it yourself NoLongerToxicOMG: its over NoLongerToxicOMG: Urgot NoLongerToxicOMG: 14 deaths NoLongerToxicOMG: stfu 4/6 Post-Game NoLongerToxicOMG: Remember what I said kass NoLongerToxicOMG: Kass players in low elo are bad NoLongerToxicOMG: You only killed me twice this game NoLongerToxicOMG: ? NoLongerToxicOMG: Later crybaby

You really need to stop saying "it's over" and being passive aggressive with your teammates, that isn't going to make you more likely to win. Your teammates are there to help you and even if they're being difficult you need to work with them to win.

Focus on improving your mentality, don't take your games so seriously, and try to work with your teammates in the future.

Is this worth a 14 day suspension since I really didn't say anything vulgar or hate speech,

If you received previous punishments in the form of a 10-game chat restriction and a 25-game chat restriction, yes, these logs will warrant a 14-day gameplay suspension. The next step is a permanent suspension.

Riot has already made it abundantly clear that this behavior is unacceptable, now they're going to start getting more serious with the punishments as a way to stop toxicity dead in it's tracks.

Also if its important, I carried and won 2/3 of these games, so I don't know how was I suspended for griefing.

It's not really important, honestly. Whether you carried this game or went 0/20, players don't appreciate this type of language and Riot doesn't condone it in any capacity.

Arngrim316/23/2019, 1:59:54 AM6 votes

So basically you wanna uninstall the game because you didn't bother to read the rules of what not to do in games. You acted like a jerk to your teammates, and now you're salty because you got punished. Petty. very petty indeed.

Umbral Regent6/23/2019, 1:45:04 AM4 votes

NoLongerToxicOMG: olaf you need to gank to win NoLongerToxicOMG: you cant farm all fuckin game NoLongerToxicOMG: Im done NoLongerToxicOMG: mid open NoLongerToxicOMG: better jg wins NoLongerToxicOMG: olaf just afk farms all game and doesnt gank mid or top NoLongerToxicOMG: just botlane NoLongerToxicOMG: no shit? NoLongerToxicOMG: sucks doesnt it NoLongerToxicOMG: when no one helps you NoLongerToxicOMG: shes been mid more than you NoLongerToxicOMG: you have ganked mid 0 times NoLongerToxicOMG: she ganked mid 3 times NoLongerToxicOMG: theres a difference NoLongerToxicOMG: lets do a recap NoLongerToxicOMG: you have gotten a dragon NoLongerToxicOMG: you havent ganked mid once NoLongerToxicOMG: why should I help you when you dont help me? NoLongerToxicOMG: what lead?

Not even six full lines in and you start harassing your Jungler, saying "open mid", and starting into a needless argument.

And, just so you know; calling "open x" is negative behavior, regardless of whether or not you gave up or whether or not you performed well.

NoLongerToxicOMG: but no jg was presence in this game NoLongerToxicOMG: babysit? YOU NEVER CAME MID ONCE? NoLongerToxicOMG: shyvanna ganked mid 3 times to your 0 ganks mid NoLongerToxicOMG: hey jg maybe you can get one dragon? NoLongerToxicOMG: trying my best here NoLongerToxicOMG: nice cait NoLongerToxicOMG: yeah we get it, youre the better jg NoLongerToxicOMG: gg NoLongerToxicOMG: better jg wins

And you continued that harassment well into the post-game lobby.

Then in Game 2;

NoLongerToxicOMG: how are you so underleveled NoLongerToxicOMG: sure NoLongerToxicOMG: zac casused you to have less cs NoLongerToxicOMG: 27 cs to 88 NoLongerToxicOMG: then dont follow him

This can be considered minor negativity.

NoLongerToxicOMG: get out of my lane NoLongerToxicOMG: or get reported and banned

This is toxic. Threatening reports to get someone to do what you want is against the rules.

NoLongerToxicOMG: I didnt need you at all NoLongerToxicOMG: you fed them a kill and did no damage NoLongerToxicOMG: ???? NoLongerToxicOMG: report ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: super toxic NoLongerToxicOMG: blames everyone expect him self NoLongerToxicOMG: just mute him zax NoLongerToxicOMG: hes crybaby NoLongerToxicOMG: he wont stop whinning

Then more harassment, including report rallying (which is also against the rules, and ultimately pointless since more reports don't increase the likelihood of punishment.)

NoLongerToxicOMG: report this toxic ezreal NoLongerToxicOMG: What? NoLongerToxicOMG: WE? NoLongerToxicOMG: ^ NoLongerToxicOMG: Enjoy your ban

And once again, continuing the harassment in the post-game lobby.

And lastly, in Game 3;

NoLongerToxicOMG: Yeah I scale hard mid to late bud NoLongerToxicOMG: Like oneshots from range NoLongerToxicOMG: in this elo? theyre bad NoLongerToxicOMG: bad NoLongerToxicOMG: do it yourself NoLongerToxicOMG: better go top kasss

NoLongerToxicOMG: You gotta kill me once in a while kass NoLongerToxicOMG: aparrently it is meta since kass is 1/5 lul NoLongerToxicOMG: you need a strong early to have a okay lat kass NoLongerToxicOMG: Cleary I have since I am owning you

Going overboard with shit-talking your lane opponent (I presume.)

NoLongerToxicOMG: was free yet no one was there NoLongerToxicOMG: only 3 people NoLongerToxicOMG: I was too and sivir NoLongerToxicOMG: But evey and Pyke were not NoLongerToxicOMG: you lose spliting NoLongerToxicOMG: its over NoLongerToxicOMG: fed morde is impossible to kill NoLongerToxicOMG: Urgot NoLongerToxicOMG: 14 deaths NoLongerToxicOMG: stfu 4/6 NoLongerToxicOMG: haha nice 3 inhibs buddy NoLongerToxicOMG: no towers and we have baron

More general negativity.

NoLongerToxicOMG: Remember what I said kass NoLongerToxicOMG: Kass players in low elo are bad NoLongerToxicOMG: You only killed me twice this game NoLongerToxicOMG: ? NoLongerToxicOMG: Later crybaby

And more still in the post-game lobby.

While your Game 3 chat logs were generally minor (still pretty bad, though), your overall behavior is - yes - toxic. You spent an unnecessary amount of time harassing teammates and shittalking people overmuch, and with that being consistent behavior, I'd say it goes over the line from negative to toxic.

Is this worth a 14 day suspension since I really didn't say anything vulgar or hate speech...

You don't have to use excessive vulgarity or hate speech to warrant a 14-day ban. If you recently came off of a 25-game Chat Restriction (which seems more than likely given the consistent negativity), then the next punishment on the ladder would be a 14-day ban.

Also if its important, I carried and won 2/3 of these games, so I don't know how was I suspended for griefing.

It doesn't matter. Your performance does not exempt you from the rules.

Additionally, the "griefing" subtitle of the Negative Attitude report category is a misnomer. It refers to general negative behavior, such as defeatism and passive-aggressive remarks, not to gameplay misbehavior like trolling/intentionally feeding.

KFCeytron6/23/2019, 1:49:13 AM3 votes

Announcing open mid, harassing your teammates for their scores, arguing constantly, calling for reports, etc. (I didn't go through all three logs) are definitely considered toxic, yes.

JetRam6/23/2019, 3:04:08 AM3 votes

I genuinely wonder if you spent more time typing than playing. Kind of pointless to play the game if you're going to be so reactive to every little thing people say in-game.

Anime Killer19457/6/2019, 1:49:27 AM1 votes

This has happened to me as-well, i invite you to check my post and see several snowflakes attack me for doing nothing wrong. Even though i didn't flame, and attempted to hold myself back from saying un-needed things, and keep my cool - I get punished for being frustrated by trolls and griefers. Way to go riot.

Telephone Booth7/6/2019, 1:59:31 AM1 votes

Yes it is considered toxic by Riot and many others. Sorry, you conform to society, society doesn't conform to you. If you dont wanna conform, there are consequences. Your punishment is one of them. But dont worry, its not like you're a bad person. You just dont agree with the standard of some game company. Its not a lesson in morality, you just failed to follow the rules in a video game. No big deal.