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got my friend permabannede - he blocked me on every media - did I do the right thing?

Yuumi or Dodge··66 votes·22,473 views

okayy so, i met one of my very good friends through league in 2017, we bonded during a game when we were both newbies and had been friends since. until today...

I played a ranked game. I was playing ahri mid and he was playing master yi jungle. my ping was higher than usual, about 80 ms when i usually have 40 so it was harder for me to dodge zed's qs. so I got solo killed once. then i decided to forfeit cs and xp to help my botlane out getting them a double kill. I died again in lane because i got ganked, and both of these times my friend told me to stop inting.

now he was complaining in chat too. whining because our support Braum accidentally took 2 kills. he would also constantly blame me in chat, saying we were losing because i decided to play with lags (even though it wasn't so laggy, it just affected my skillshots and the ability to dodge them...) and just generally making me not wanna play anymore. he was very negative the whole game, he is often like this when the game is not going his way.

So after the game I decided to report him for Negative Attitude and Verbal abuse. That was yesterday.

Today he was permanently suspended, just 5 days after returning to the account after a 2 week suspension. I did not get an instant feedback report so I know it was not my report that triggered the ban. he had 1 other game in his logs that he was banned for. he claims he was just telling his top laner to stop trolling and that the rest was jibberish but i dont know what he said because he refused to send me the full chat logs.

my question is, Was i in the right here? I was very upset by what he said in game. he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash, I get carried all the time and that's why my winrate is so good, and that no one would ever want to go out with me (even though i have a girlfriend myself...)

anyway that is all besides the point.

Should I have let him be and not reported him? I kind of ruined this friendship that lasted so long. if i had not reported him i think he wouldve gotten banned eventually anyway because of how toxic he is in his losing games..when he is winning he is nice but when losing he is just so toxic. I have seeked (suck? sook?) advice on reddit before for help with my awful mentality and mentioned my friend in this threads. almost everyone recommended that I delete him immediately.

my other good friend also kept telling me to delete him. that he is a kid and he can't get out of silver with his mentality.

i was already having some bad depression because of exams...but this just made it worse...can anyone at least reassure me that i did the right thing? cuz i really dont know what to think anymore

138 Comments

Umbral Regent76 votes

my question is, Was i in the right here? I was very upset by what he said in game.

Both from the standpoint of the rules and from a personal standpoint; yes. If he was being toxic and upsetting you through flame, underhanded remarks, etc., you were well within the right to report him. Him getting a permanent suspension just showed that he hadn't learned from his 14-day ban, and just got what was ultimately coming to him.

I kind of ruined this friendship that lasted so long.

Frankly, I think your friendship with him ended when he decided to call you "e-girl trash" amongst other things; he ain't much of a friend if he's ready to insult you and flame you like he did, both in and out of game.

can anyone at least reassure me that i did the right thing?

You did do the right thing, and I agree with your other good friend. If that guy was and still is toxic, then it's best to just cut him off; you're worth more than insults, and definitely don't need a "friend" like him to make you feel bad for no good reason.

Yuumi or Dodge2 votes

i agree that he deserved it...he already got his main that was level 207 permabanned less than a month ago...and he seems to think that im entirely to blame for it all. but rly we talked every day for a little over 2 years..rly i dont want to stop talking even though its the best. idk

ModKnightsKemplar20 votes

I don't know your friendship, and I won't pretend to. But when I see things like this:

he also insults me outside of game too

that makes me wonder if this person is really that good of a friend, or just someone that you ended up playing games with out of.... let's say convenience, for lack of a better word.

That doesn't mean they aren't fun, or aren't worth talking to, but definitely don't let their words get to you. If you want to keep talking to them, or help them, or whatever, and you can do that without having a huge negative impact on your own life, go for it. That's your call to make.

But there's no way to spin his ban as your fault. That is ridiculous.

Unker13935 votes

If he talks to you like that, inside or outside of the game, I would would not be eager to keep that friendship going. It will you more harm than good.

I think you did the right thing.

This Is Your Dad28 votes

Calling you overweight egirl trash? That's not a friend, that's an emotional leech. Find a new friend, someone positive. You deserve to get something out of your friendships. Be selfish. I'd rather have a selfish friend being my friend because they want to be around me than because they'd feel bad otherwise. There are too many people on the planet for you not to deserve your own level of happiness with people who don't take you for granted and treat you like crap.

Caitlyn FTW9 votes

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Yuumi or Dodge8 votes

I never thought of it this way before, but it does make some sense. that he decided to ditch me because he lost his account in a video game. his justification for insulting me is that it's just a joke. now i hail from scotland so of course a nice friendly insult is like a good morning greeting...but it starts to hurt when he does it so consistantly all the time. and i had to brush it off all these times but idk who rly gave him the right to think that it's ok to talk to anyone in that way..

his perspective was that i was somehow tilting him even though i was trying my best all game even though i lose my lane. and I was doing well with my roams so idk how i was tilting him. apparantly me mentioning lag was tilting...

Raven Redeemed8 votes

You were certainly right to report him. Not even considering the grief he put you through, he was making the game worse for random strangers and violated the code of conduct.

I’d be very hesitant to stop talking to him just because random people on the internet told you too. We don’t know and can’t really judge the relationship. My advice would be to stop talking with him or spend less time talking with him if he is verbally abusive. It is impossible to spend a lot of time with someone without them impacting you so spend time with good people (or at least some time). Also, if you want to continue being his friend, tell him what you think he’s doing wrong. It can be awkward to have such candid conversations, but he may be a bit blinded to his own wrong doings (perhaps his insults were intended to be more lighthearted smack talk without realizing that he was hurting people etc.) and/or may go out of his way to change or at least act more appropriately around you.

Thunder Dreamss3 votes

I'm going to very much second this. Nothing wrong with reporting him for his behavior in game and if that drives him to break off the friendship there's no use looking back.

If he reaches out after cooling off tho... Well you need to decide the importance of the relationship and maybe have the talks that need having. All anyone here has seen is the negative aspects of the relationship without any balance and even with a "pros and cons" list none of us know you or your relationship in any useful way. You need to think carefully about how this person impacts your life and whether or not they are worth your time or if they can be with some changes.

Febos6 votes

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Was i in the right here?

"Right" and "wrong" are subjective. If we ignore feelings, then reporting bad behaviour is the right thing to do, regardless of who it is. However, because you said he was your friend, maybe the better option would be to either:

  1. Tell him to stop doing that.
  2. Stop playing with him if he didn't.

You could still have a relationship outside of League, could you not?

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I was very upset by what he said in game. he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash, I get carried all the time and that's why my winrate is so good, and that no one would ever want to go out with me

I don't have the authority to tell you whom you should be friends with or not, but, from experience, toxic friendships aren't a good thing. Banter is fine. I banter with my mates all the time. That doesn't look like banter, because you said you felt upset by it. You wouldn't be upset if it was all in good terms.

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mentioned my friend in this threads. almost everyone recommended that I delete him immediately.

Because we can look at your relationship from a non-bias point of view. Outsiders often have a better judgment in situations like this.

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can anyone at least reassure me that i did the right thing? cuz i really dont know what to think anymore

To me, you did the right thing. But I'm not you. I feel like you have unfinished business with that individual. You may not be able to move on until you resolve that.

My advice: tell him how he made you feel. After that, cut the relationship. Remind yourself that you're doing this for you, not for him.

Agent Corgi5 votes

You did the right thing. Friends don't treat each other like that & if he's going to take it so far that he has to block you on social media Over a Video game, then he's no true friend at all. Don't let this minor bump in the road get you down. Things will eventually get better sometime down the line & if this guy actually cares, he'll come back & apologize.

Beldori5 votes

So there is a few answers to this thread.

  1. it takes many reports to get banned, yours was the final one needed is all which means anyone reporting him would have done it.

  2. For those defending the toxic friend, If you think he shouldn't be punished you are part of the problem, toxic behavior on that level bleeds into real life let alone into other games and no friendship is worth that kind of abuse regardless of the game, the guy got what he deserved for his behavior.

ESeTyRC4 votes

? 80ms is "bad"? hahahah.... I guess I play every match with shitty af ping.

If your "friends" aren't a positive influence on your life.. well. I wouldn't sweat over what's been done.

Kei1434 votes

Personally, if a person on my friendlist is toxic in chat, I'll unfriend them.

Little Songbird4 votes

Girl, that relationship was toxic. I am so glad its out. You are a beautiful and kind girl, dont let people bring you down like that.

You are making a more positive environment for yourself!

Goodluck with exams!

KFCeytron4 votes

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he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash, I get carried all the time and that's why my winrate is so good, and that no one would ever want to go out with me (even though i have a girlfriend myself...)

i was already having some bad depression because of exams...but this just made it worse...

"We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn

Burn motherfucker

#BURN" –Bloodhound Gang

TL;DR: Good riddance to this non-friend.

Skýcrow4 votes

Your report doesn't matter that much, because he would have been banned regardless with that attitude... anyways! A friend that insults someone else in the way you described, is no friend at all. It's better that you aren't friends anymore with him, your other friend is correct with the delete part.

to me this sounds like he doesn't even think about how valuable real friends actually are, and i think he should get a taste from that. Maybe in the future he will understand how lonely life can get without having friends or less friends.

Broken Soul4 votes

I'd say you definitely did the right thing. I mean, in the League community, toxicity is a constant. It's better to cut out as much of it as you can so that way your playing experience won't be ruined. You said he was directly insulting you, both in game and out. That's not a healthy friendship at all. There's no excuses for that kind of behavior, even though I sometimes get tilted and blow my lid, too You were in the right, that's all there is to it. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Vaelkyrie4 votes

The only thing of value I can contribute is this: the past tense of the verb _to seek _is sought.

Zardo3 votes

Honestly, good riddance. If he was toxic towards you he wasn't a good friend to begin with, you should look for new friends to play with who are nicer to you.

Larriet3 votes

got my friend permabanned

No, you didn't. He got himself banned.

If your friends are saying/doing things to you that are against the rules, they deserve to be punished. You did the right thing here.

I know some groups of friends like to troll or jokingly hurl insults at one another, and as long as its in good fun and you're not in a game with randoms on your team, that's cool! (If you're doing that, don't report your friends as a joke, btw...) But if you're not all down for that, or they're trolling a game you really want to win, or they really meant to insult you, then yes, they totally deserve it.

Just something from me personally: I've had friends who rage (out loud, not in chat), and friends who flame, and friends who get salty at their teammates, and none of them have ever directed that at me. Not excusing the ones who flamed others of course, but if he's saying those things to you, he clearly doesn't value your friendship. You're better off without. For his sake, I hope he can grow up a bit. And for your sake, I'm glad you have him out of your hair.

Ahri Baka3 votes

It's kinda sad I stopped duoing with such people I notice that they are even slightly toxic It's for me impossible to even duo with a very close friend , he is just too toxic and we fight every time we duo

Tuition Fee3 votes

  1. If a friend is bitching at you for a video game over factors you can't control, ditch them ASAP.

  2. You saved people from unpleasant games by reporting him. If game went unflagged, he might not have been punished until much later, assuming he didn't say a zero tolerance phrase.

  3. Sexism, body shaming and putting down someone else's confidence is never okay.

  4. I once had a friend who posted that he wanted to shoot someone on social media. Did I snitch? Yes. While snitches get bad reputations, sometimes you just gotta do it if someone is crossing a line.

Badriiyah3 votes

You did the right thing 100%, you are in the right. No one should act that childish (AND HE PLAYS YI) jokes aside, I always try to keep my games chill, but people like him who have been often banned, its probably just better for everyone to have him removed [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Your Demon3 votes

listen buddy , ur worth alot more than anyone credits you , anyone who calls you trash or garbage needs their brain checked out. Anyone i mean anyone who degrades you like this and then you continue to be with them is just a bad influence on you , and you will just ruin your mental health and attitude. i 100% think u did the right thing , im actually suprised u didnt do it sooner , dont stick up/with toxic/bad people and i really dont like people who say "even though he is toxic and rude he is nice to me". Hope you have a great day

Total Violation3 votes

First of all...

"he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash"

He was not your friend.

Second, you did not "get him banned", since he had already been suspended before the permaban. His actions got him banned, you were just the last person to raise your hand and vote "yes" to his ban. Even without your report, the ban was inevitable.

My personal advice:

Be glad that this emotionally unstable person blocked you on all social media, and you should block him too. You do not need people like this in your life, let alone call them "friends".

Do a clean up on your real life friend list, anyone who behaves like this has no place in your life.

Pay close attention to how people act online, because in games like League, where people's identities are hidden behind a username and a champion, that's when people show their true colors, and feel most secure to act natural.

I guarantee that will now have a more pleasant League experience, and a more pleasant life.

LexCat3 votes

I still dont know how after all you have said here, you still call that trash your friend. Just delete that sucker from your life and find new people. I have friends I play with everyday and we have a lot of bad game when we all make mistakes and lose. We get mad and tilted, but never ever insult each others, or even report.

14daysuspensionk3 votes

Looks like he had probably been playing Yasuo

Yuumi or Dodge3 votes

Funny thing is yasuo was his highest mastery champion, followed by yi xD

14daysuspensionk4 votes

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Funny thing is yasuo was his highest mastery champion, followed by yi xD

That explains everything. He fell into the rabbit hole of maining champs like Yasuo and Yi.

DragonArt3 votes

A true friend don't do things like that.

** it is better to be alone than badly accompanied**

miightofdemacia3 votes

This is why I don't like playing league with people and don't add randoms personally. A lot of people get toxic or disappointed but they don't realize that you cannot win every game. Matchmaking is designed to make you lose eventually. The game is great but just naturally makes people toxic or frustrated

Edit: I think you did the right thing. It's probably better you don't play with that person anymore and if you still want to stay friends just don't play league together. And if you dont stay friends then that's fine too because your friend needs to respect you better i think.

John Westlin3 votes

His toxicity just proves that he is competitive. I think he should quit this game and you should move on because you did a right thing. I think he is upset and doesn’t control his emotions. Again if a game makes him that mad, he shouldn’t play at all. A team-based game is not that good for self-centered people.

R107 Games1 votes

Nope; that was a dick move.

You could've just asked him to stop being toxic and if he refused they you should've minded your business after that. Maybe you could've stopped being his friend. But getting his account banned which he spends money and time on is a dick move.

Hell even in irl if your friend is mean to you the sensible thing to do is ask them to stop and if they refuse you stop being friends. Not try to get them in trouble

ChaosReyn3 votes

He got himself in trouble. Multiple times before this. Not even adding the part where this was OP's business.

R107 Games1 votes

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He got himself in trouble. Multiple times before this. Not even adding the part where this was OP's business.

OP reported him, so he played a part in his punishment

ChaosReyn5 votes

Noone's denying that. But OP isn't responsible for all the actions the guy made, and OP's honestly a minimal factor in his ban anyway. Probably woulda been banned without their report. And again, it was their business - that toxicity was being directed at them just as much as everyone that game.

People have falling outs. That's life. OP isn't wrong for having enough of the guy's shit.

CarpeConundrum1 votes

did I do the right thing

No. No you did not. Friends can be forever. This game will eventually die and people will move on to another game. Dude... You're not that bright. League is temporary, friendship is eternal. Ein Folk, Ein Friendship, Ein... something not racist.

If you genuinely believed that what you did was the right thing to do, or if you had any confidence in your decision you wouldn't be here asking for a hug box to tell you everything will be alright and you're a good girl for what you did. I don't think you did the right thing and I don't think you suffered any "abuse" from this person, you should hear how guys talk to each other and banter over vidya. UwU Ur no git GF lulzor. Pfffffffffft.

EvilDustMan1 votes

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No. No you did not. Friends can be forever. This game will eventually die and people will move on to another game. Dude... You're not that bright. League is temporary, friendship is eternal. Ein Folk, Ein Friendship, Ein... something not racist.

If you genuinely believed that what you did was the right thing to do, or if you had any confidence in your decision you wouldn't be here asking for a hug box to tell you everything will be alright and you're a good girl for what you did. I don't think you did the right thing and I don't think you suffered any "abuse" from this person, you should hear how guys talk to each other and banter over vidya. UwU Ur no git GF lulzor. Pfffffffffft.

my question is, Was i in the right here? I was very upset by what he said in game. he also insults me outside of game too, calling me things like overweight, e-girl trash, I get carried all the time and that's why my winrate is so good, and that no one would ever want to go out with me (even though i have a girlfriend myself...)

CarpeConundrum2 votes

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Yuumi or Dodge3 votes

what are you talking about? i was asking for advice because i was so shaken after what happened. and yes, I'm playing support, of course I'm going to "get carried"...also remember that this isn't my only account. I played Anivia, Vel'koz and Neeko was 60-75% winrates on each on previous accounts. There is a skill in getting carried - at least I am not mindlessly feeding my opponents. Take the game where I went 5/3/37 - really the only reason we won was because I was able to keep veigar alive in teamfights.

I think you are just being mindlessly sexist towards girls in video games - they are not all e-girls and there are girls that have reached high ranks. The reason girls are rarely seen in high levels of play is because they make up less than 10% of the playerbase, and high elo makes up less than 1% of the playerbase as it is.

CarpeConundrum2 votes

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what are you talking about? i was asking for advice because i was so shaken after what happened. and yes, I'm playing support, of course I'm going to "get carried"...also remember that this isn't my only account. I played Anivia, Vel'koz and Neeko was 60-75% winrates on each on previous accounts. There is a skill in getting carried - at least I am not mindlessly feeding my opponents. Take the game where I went 5/3/37 - really the only reason we won was because I was able to keep veigar alive in teamfights.

I think you are just being mindlessly sexist towards girls in video games - they are not all e-girls and there are girls that have reached high ranks. The reason girls are rarely seen in high levels of play is because they make up less than 10% of the playerbase, and high elo makes up less than 1% of the playerbase as it is.

How is it sexist to say I don't like playing video games with women and I don't like women in the industry? It's extremely underhanded and a PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY I DON'T LIKE WOMEN IN GAMING. Because holding any opinion or any position that is counter to the position or opinions of women is automatically sexist.
If I say that women have, objectively, ruined both the AAA and indie development industries, you'll call me sexist no matter what evidence I offer (this isn't the thread for that but I could go on for hours) and that's what has ruined gaming in my opinion. You women can screech "sexism, sexism, sexism" and shut down anyone who says anything you don't like, even when it's just an opinion like mine. I never said women shouldn't or couldn't play video games, all I said was I prefer not to play games with women and that makes me a sexist somehow. THIS IS WHY I HATE WOMEN IN GAMING!!! STOP RUINING MY FUCKING HOBBIES!!!

https://imgur.com/a/RKDpSRQ

Pic F'ing related.

Yuumi or Dodge3 votes

Look the reason I said you're being "mindlessly sexist" is because you assume I'm getting carried in my games, and the fact that you ban all girls from your club or whatever without giving them a single chance. Can't tell if troll or not

CarpeConundrum2 votes

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Look the reason I said you're being "mindlessly sexist" is because you assume I'm getting carried in my games, and the fact that you ban all girls from your club or whatever without giving them a single chance. Can't tell if troll or not

I didn't assume anything, I looked up your OP.gg and I don't have to give anyone a chance, man or woman. I have the freedom to choose who I associate with. I wouldn't go to the bar or pub with a gaggle of women, I don't want to spend my downtime at home online with a gaggle of women. I just want to hang out with some dudebros and do dudebro shit. Why is that sexist.

EvilDustMan3 votes

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I didn't assume anything, I looked up your OP.gg and I don't have to give anyone a chance, man or woman. I have the freedom to choose who I associate with. I wouldn't go to the bar or pub with a gaggle of women, I don't want to spend my downtime at home online with a gaggle of women. I just want to hang out with some dudebros and do dudebro shit. Why is that sexist.

Okay. Serious answer. You can say "I only like to do things with dudebros"

But when you say "I only like to do thinks with dudebros because all girls are (insert something negative here)" that is sexist, yes.

CarpeConundrum2 votes

{quoted}

Okay. Serious answer. You can say "I only like to do things with dudebros"

But when you say "I only like to do thinks with dudebros because all girls are (insert something negative here)" that is sexist, yes.

I never said all women were XYZ, I said IN MY OPINION I don't like playing games with girls for XYZ reasons. I make no point of objectivity in regards to my reasons for not enjoying playing games with them. I avoid things which annoy me, it just so happens that girl gamers annoy me. That's not sexist, it's just a coincidence. It's purely incidental that the most annoying people in games are women. If you like it, that's your bag broskee. I don't. That doesn't make me sexist. Those are just my personal standards.

EvilDustMan3 votes

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I never said all BLACK were XYZ, I said IN MY OPINION I don't like playing games with BLACK PEOPLE for XYZ reasons. I make no point of objectivity in regards to my reasons for not enjoying playing games with them. I avoid things which annoy me, it just so happens that BLACK gamers annoy me. That's not sexist, it's just a coincidence. It's purely incidental that the most annoying people in games are BLACK. If you like it, that's your bag broskee. I don't. That doesn't make me sexist. Those are just my personal standards.

Okay, I have edited the post. Now, does that post seem racist to you? Because if it does, then you are sexist, yes.

CarpeConundrum2 votes

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Okay, I have edited the post. Now, does that post seem racist to you? Because if it does, then you are sexist, yes.

No, not really. I agree. The right to free association means that we have the right to freely disassociate from any individual or group we want to.
I prefer to be around my own people. I don't think this makes me racist anymore than not wanting to share 100% of my time with women. I want one fucking hobby where I don't have to deal with women. Our grandparents had work, our parents had clubs and lodges, growing up I had video games and table top RPGs. Now I have nowhere. I don't like mixed groups of men and women. It's inevitable that any group with both men and women will eventually unravel as men start competing with each other for female attention and women spur on the drama. Every single discord server, every single teamspeak server, every irl group I've ever been apart of has been torn apart by women. The problem is, or one of the problems is, that you can't treat women like equals despite that being the demand. If OP were a dude I'd have insulted him and told him to grab his balls, but I said (more or less) the same thing to this female and you jumped in to white knight for her. The only reason she announced herself as a female in the first place is because she knew that people like you would defend her and shield her if anyone like me came into this thread to tell her to grow up.

It's inevitable and happens everywhere, previously mentioned discords, TS's and irl groups. Women act in such a way as to provoke male responses and if anyone tries to patrol their behaviour, people like you white knight. This is why I don't like women in gaming. This is why I don't like women in any of my hobbies.

I am not a racist for not enjoying the company of blacks your edit was bad and you should feel bad.
I am not sexist for not enjoying the company of women.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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No, not really. I agree. The right to free association means that we have the right to freely disassociate from any individual or group we want to.
I prefer to be around my own people. I don't think this makes me racist anymore than not wanting to share 100% of my time with women. I want one fucking hobby where I don't have to deal with women. Our grandparents had work, our parents had clubs and lodges, growing up I had video games and table top RPGs. Now I have nowhere. I don't like mixed groups of men and women. It's inevitable that any group with both men and women will eventually unravel as men start competing with each other for female attention and women spur on the drama. Every single discord server, every single teamspeak server, every irl group I've ever been apart of has been torn apart by women. The problem is, or one of the problems is, that you can't treat women like equals despite that being the demand. If OP were a dude I'd have insulted him and told him to grab his balls, but I said (more or less) the same thing to this female and you jumped in to white knight for her. The only reason she announced herself as a female in the first place is because she knew that people like you would defend her and shield her if anyone like me came into this thread to tell her to grow up.

It's inevitable and happens everywhere, previously mentioned discords, TS's and irl groups. Women act in such a way as to provoke male responses and if anyone tries to patrol their behaviour, people like you white knight. This is why I don't like women in gaming. This is why I don't like women in any of my hobbies.

I am not a racist for not enjoying the company of blacks your edit was bad and you should feel bad.
I am not sexist for not enjoying the company of women.

Alright.

Thank you, I've screenshot all of these and will make an imgur album later. This brightened up my day, I have never laughed so hard at schadenfraude in my life.

CharDeeMcDenniz4 votes

so much cringe in one post

awful

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