Overwatch option ins CS:GO.

Snowman Arc··3 votes·1,812 views

I was talking to a friend yesterday who played League as well, and quit it to play CS:GO because League had way too much toxicity and trolls. He told me that CS:GO also has a lot of those, but not quite to the extent of League.

What really caught me eye is that he mentioned a feature in CS:GO called Overwatch. You get this feature if you level up, same how you level up in League, and after a point, you get to use it. For example, if you level up to level 30 in League, you get to use this feature.

Now, what you do with this is you get to spectate a random game that is flagged by someone (if someone was reported, same as League) and you get to cast a vote about what was the reportable offense. Your vote has very increased value as well.

Let's put this into League standards. I assume that I'd be eligible to join this Overwatch mode, since I've played quite a lot of games, and I've never been penalized and I consider myself on the non-toxic part of the community. I rarely, if ever, troll, and I rarely flame people. Therefore, I could occasionally use this feature to watch a flagged game where someone was reported. Let's say someone gets reported for flaming. I get to watch the game and the chat, and see context and action. I can then cast a vote as to if the player was toxic, and if the behavior was justified to some extent (maybe he was defending himself against others, maybe there was a frustrating troll to provoke such behavior, or the player is toxic all by themselves over the pettiest of reasons), and then Riot can value my own report to a higher standard and have that report be checked in by Riot's own people.

Or let's say someone is reported for feeding. Since there are quite a lot of reports about players feeding and Riot is unable to watch all games, I can spend some time and see if the person is indeed inting or trolling and flag that game with the "empowered" report to provoke a Rioter to look into it.

This is completely unanimous by the way, you can't see who is reported or choose what game you get to watch or who the teammates or enemies are, so you basically have nothing to gain from it. It's all about you spending your own time to help the company deal with toxic behavior therefore I assume that people would be honest with their decisions. You wouldn't really take time off your own just to troll even more with this feature.

I do believe this is a good system to implement. It would quickly dissolve quite a lot of reports that happen over nothing and let Riot deal with the "real ones". Sure, they still won't be able to watch all "empowered" reported games, but they still will be able to watch the ones that are more suspicious and probably act on them.

13 Comments

Chermorg4 votes

Especially given recent threads as to what some players think is "trolling", I don't think giving players the ability to determine it is necessarily the best idea.

At best, it'll just send a lot of false cases Riots way, at worst it'll result in players using the system to attempt to bully players into following their commands: "do what I say or I'll go to the overwatch system and vote you as a troll".

kaling 2321 votes

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Especially given recent threads as to what some players think is "trolling", I don't think giving players the ability to determine it is necessarily the best idea.

At best, it'll just send a lot of false cases Riots way, at worst it'll result in players using the system to attempt to bully players into following their commands: "do what I say or I'll go to the overwatch system and vote you as a troll".

Ughhhhhhhh..... im very sorry to Break your riot bubble Sir Forum Advisor, but i dont think riot employee's have the ability to determine as well? and you are correct, you wanna know these recent threads are due to "Trolling"?? because once again, for ages ago, summoners have been telling you and your Punishment system/elo system are broken, the only difference between current day thread and post 8 season thread is one thing.... Depends on who gets ban and how they got ban, Example i am a league veteran, Moba places me at a Plat-Diamond level at every role, the only real reason i am posting now and not from my previous alts is because i feel i have been cheated, which is true..... so i am making this situation aware to the whole community, or that is the goal at least. So lets talk about what is going to happen next week, i will prob be off forum because clearly from your post above, it implies that you believe the support staff has a better "Judgement" on these trolls when at the end of the day are we not "Human"? are we not summoners playing on the same platform? do you have a special rift for people who play in plat+ ranks??? why do you believe that players cant judge other players?????? and once more... in all due respect... riot is large enough to create/produce a program where like CS:GO people can review games and judge off there peer's, the key thing i dont think you even realize/understand how to master this concept is because you believe people will rate other people from past games, well if thats the case, there should be way to work around that :), i mean you do have 35 million active summoners dont ya ;)

Also what do you consider "Trolls" once more i have to ask, because from my perspective Nightblue3 is a public troll as said in this Forum post (Which i believe is what your referring to) : https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/evEusqHE-i-think-the-punishment-system-should-be-changed?comment=00000000000100000000

So again.......... i have to ask the community...... Are we ok with RIOT looking down on us and giving us punishments which are not deserved? Are we ok with NA chat being more sensitive then a 13 year old girl going thru puberty? Are we ok with getting punished for telling a "Troll" player that you will be "Reporting" them? like cmon something must have connected in your head's~

Kantala2 votes

The only thing I connected is that you haven't connected much here at all.

Chermorg has the right of it here. Giving the ability to use a feature designed to remove toxicity from League into the players hands' will only enable them to become the thing that Riot is trying to reduce/remove from League.

Snowman Arc1 votes

But the game you are assigned is random and has no name plates on it. Also, I think that once you use this feature once, you must "level up" again, so it's not like you can abuse it. This way, the few times you get it, you have to use it correctly, it feels like.

kaling 2321 votes

^^^^^^ Also why cant we remove the summoner's name? Once again the process would be anonymous and no players would be biased.

Chermorg1 votes

You'd run into the problem of it taking a long time to review cases - which is what plagued the Tribunal. Further, multiple reports are useless now but you still see people calling for reports on others. The exact way the system works doesn't matter - people will use it's existence to harass others.

FurriesAreHot3 votes

I would not want players reviewing the people I report. So far, I have had 0 negative interactions with the IFS, and I do not trust the community dictating punishments.

Snowman Arc1 votes

It's not the community dictating. Their reports will just be prioritized to be looked up by the company.

Kei1433 votes

There's too Many people that don't understand what inting actually means and mistake it as feeding.

Got to change that mindset first before you implement such feature.

Barley2 votes

In CSGO, you have to be like Gold Nova 4 or something to have the feature. Gold Nova is the second rank in CSGO, so Id assume in League, it’s have to be like GOLD5+ to have the feature. Also, honor level 3.

Snowman Arc2 votes

Even better. Higher elo players probably have better ability to correctly rate a situation anyway.

Best Vi Earth1 votes

bumping cause this is a great idea and would love it

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