if what's considered "toxic" is defined by the community

scazzman··2 votes·853 views

what would happen if someone were to create a TON of bot accounts, which were programed to report all 9 players after every game, we arent talking a small operation, but if someone were to make it so one of these bots were encountered on average in every single game

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Handy Sandy 3 votes

There's no evidence of the people they reported of doing anything against the rules, so nothing would happen.

scazzman1 votes

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There's no evidence of the people they reported of doing anything against the rules, so nothing would happen.

but if you were to make enough bots, the automated system would redefine itself based on the bots being the majority. right?

Lauchmelder2 votes

No. If the majority considers Gg Ez toxic Riot will include it. If bots report people after the game while they did absolutely nothing wrong nothing will happen.

scazzman1 votes

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No. If the majority considers Gg Ez toxic Riot will include it. If bots report people after the game while they did absolutely nothing wrong nothing will happen.

but what if the majority were the bots?

Lauchmelder1 votes

Nothing would happen. How is this hard to understand? If someone isn't breaking the rules he can't get punished, no matter how often he gets reported.

Sarutobi1 votes

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but if you were to make enough bots, the automated system would redefine itself based on the bots being the majority. right?

That would only work if Riot didnt actually keep tabs on the system they are using. Riot does look into cases and handles it manually granted not all of it, but they need to make sure the system is up to day. Im sure if something like this was to happen they would see it and fix it before it got out of hand!

ModUlanopo4 votes

but if you were to make enough bots, the automated system would redefine itself based on the bots being the majority. right?

Nope. It doesn't work like that. Even if it did, you would need millions of bots that somehow accomplished this without detection, which isn't going to happen.

scazzman1 votes

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Nope. It doesn't work like that. Even if it did, you would need millions of bots that somehow accomplished this without detection, which isn't going to happen.

granted it would be a longshot and highly unlikely, it wouldnt be 100% impossible either

CrimsonReaps1 votes

It is highly unlikely, and i believe Riot can at least detect the general area where an account is logged into from, 1,000,000 log ins from the same area at the same time might bring up a few red flags.

ModUlanopo5 votes

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granted it would be a longshot and highly unlikely, it wouldnt be 100% impossible either

It would be so unlikely as to be statistically irrelevant and therefore unhelpful even as a thought exercise.

CooL Ice Tea1 votes

Nope. It doesn't work like that

okay slower now please. How does it work then?

I mean how did become "gg easy" reportable? At some point in the beginning it wasn't reportable / punishable / didnt trigger a punishment. So the major part of the community started to report for something which didn't get you punished at that time and so after a while it got this state of "toxic". right?

AeroWaffle2 votes

Creating enough bots to deviate the average when millions of accounts exist is pretty damn unlikely.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

yo so everyone who downvoted you dont get OP's question.

OP is basically asking, If somehow a hacker made enough bot accounts that COULDN'T be detected, and these bots outnumber the actual player base, What would happen?

IE: say saying the word "nice job" is considered fine, but then these bots are introduced and suddenly everyone saying "nice job" is being reported.

This is a thought experiment guys do some thinking!

My thoughts: if the bots existed and outnumbered players, in order to to ban people for being toxic theyd have to you know.. talk. so we would see players just accepting that chatting is now no longer safe, and the game would go on as normal

scazzman1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Arcade Andrew,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=c3PAEwZx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-14T07:17:14.074+0000)

yo so everyone who downvoted you dont get OP's question.

OP is basically asking, If somehow a hacker made enough bot accounts that COULDN'T be detected, and these bots outnumber the actual player base, What would happen?

IE: say saying the word "nice job" is considered fine, but then these bots are introduced and suddenly everyone saying "nice job" is being reported.

This is a thought experiment guys do some thinking!

My thoughts: if the bots existed and outnumbered players, in order to to ban people for being toxic theyd have to you know.. talk. so we would see players just accepting that chatting is now no longer safe, and the game would go on as normal

thank you

Arcade Andrew1 votes

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StillRJay1 votes

I would think Riot manages the list of key words that are punishable. If these bots started reporting players for saying "nice job", I doubt Riot would say "oh boy, better add 'nice job' to the list". I'm pretty sure nothing would happen.

scazzman1 votes

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I would think Riot manages the list of key words that are punishable. If these bots started reporting players for saying "nice job", I doubt Riot would say "oh boy, better add 'nice job' to the list". I'm pretty sure nothing would happen.

that's actually not the case, it's programmed to "learn" based on what the majority reports for, im sure they add a few things manually, but for the most part it's automatic

EvilDustMan1 votes

Go home, scazzman

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