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Honoring Opponents, WYA?

ModWuks·8/4/2019, 11:34:07 PM·80 votes·18,310 views

Even if the old Honor System, where you could honor opponents at the end of the game, was effectively a placebo at the end of its run, I honestly believe that it helped encourage better behavior and sportsmanship between both teammates and opponents alike. Whereas you weren't constricted to one honor a match and you could honor your opponents, there was more encouragement to not throw out unnecessary BM. I remember starting matches with GL;HF's- first to get honor, but then it just became habit. Then when the system swapped over, I didn't feel any of the same encouragement to do any of that, because at the end of the day, the one honor that players get would be to either their duo/premade or the person who performed the best, regardless of actual behavior unless it was egregious.

I think the system's rewards are great, but I don't think that the system is being used for what it was meant to be used for. I believe that the old system accomplished more for curbing toxicity as an incentive, even if the incentive was essentially just a metric. Adding scenarios where more than one person can be honored, and allowing for at least 1 honor for opponents, would do heaps to encourage good sportsmanship.

I'm not expecting it to be the panacea for bad sportsmanship, but I think I'd see more instances of good sportsmanship with a few of these changes to the Honor System.

45 Comments

Imperial Pandaa8/5/2019, 12:21:54 AM14 votes

I posted this a while back since Honor Opponents posts seem to come up now and then. I feel it is a fair compromise.

The following is how I would like to see it if they made any changes:

Keep the team honor screen as it currently is. You honor 1 person and it gives them that small honor boost. This is the "important" honor.
Regular post game lobby you can do frivolous honoring. These honors just basically let others know that your enjoyed playing with them. In all, they hold no true value.

Kei1438/5/2019, 1:19:54 AM7 votes

WYA ... Want Your .... Apinion?

[sg-lux-2]

Caitlyn FTW8/5/2019, 5:35:19 AM4 votes

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Zabulus8/5/2019, 9:44:53 PM3 votes

LET ME HONOR that one opponent who literally was my soul mate for that game before we gg and go away [zombie-nunu-tears]

GilxeN8/5/2019, 5:41:17 AM3 votes

Whole honor system is placebo and poorly constructed.

I can count on fingers how many times I have been honored, not for tilt-proof or good behaviour, but for carry factor, you carry you get honored, you dont carry u aint getting a dogshit.

Tin Obliterates8/5/2019, 6:38:24 PM2 votes

Doesn't give money, therefore Riot will put it off for as long as possible.

King Sheeptar8/5/2019, 4:57:10 PM2 votes

" Honor" system is stupid to begin with. You're a video game, not a military outfit. You have 0 idea what the concept of honor is.

enshine8/6/2019, 5:58:02 AM2 votes

i haven't given out a single honor in the past 4 years

nobody deserves it. not allies, not enemies. useless system anyway

Aliquid8/5/2019, 3:12:52 AM2 votes

i rarely honor my teammates considering i only play solo Q on my accounts now. if anything i'm just honoring the person who was the least feeding in most cases. why can't i honor my opponents for doing good or abusing the meta in their favor? :(

Tomoe Gozen8/6/2019, 1:12:18 AM1 votes

I've never understood the appeal of honoring your opponents. This isn't like a game in the LCS where the winning team goes to shake hands with the losing team. We're all sitting at a computer and don't really care about any of those things. I don't chat with the enemy team, my All Chat was disabled 4 years ago and with good reason. I don't have a reason to befriend the enemy team after a game because i'm not in a business in looking for teammates either.

In half of the games i play, i intentionally skip 50% of honoring my own teammates because in these 50% of the games, i don't feel like they deserved it. I don't want to reward honoring for the sake of honoring and perpetuating the honor system as a farming tool of fake goodwill. People who are truly honorable, don't have to ask for honors or worry about it at all. Getting to H5 is a lengthy process in itself, which means that it takes a while to get to that point.

In the years that the old honor system existed, i've only honored an opponent twice. I don't remember who they were playing but if i ever felt genuinely that someone from the enemy didn't give up the game and didn't flame like a lil' shit, that was true sportsmanship in my eyes. Imagine my surprise when almost no one was deserving of it, from my perspective. There's no incentive to have it done regularly and the cases what should be an "honorable opponent" aren't even clear.

Esaul8/7/2019, 5:45:46 PM1 votes

There are times where I wish I could honor an opponent for various reasons vs my own teammate. I do miss that feature.

Memelord Shuky8/8/2019, 7:18:50 AM1 votes

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Even if the old Honor System, where you could honor opponents at the end of the game, was effectively a placebo at the end of its run, I honestly believe that it helped encourage better behavior and sportsmanship between both teammates and opponents alike. Whereas you weren't constricted to one honor a match and you could honor your opponents, there was more encouragement to not throw out unnecessary BM. I remember starting matches with GL;HF's- first to get honor, but then it just became habit. Then when the system swapped over, I didn't feel any of the same encouragement to do any of that, because at the end of the day, the one honor that players get would be to either their duo/premade or the person who performed the best, regardless of actual behavior unless it was egregious.

I think the system's rewards are great, but I don't think that the system is being used for what it was meant to be used for. I believe that the old system accomplished more for curbing toxicity as an incentive, even if the incentive was essentially just a metric. Adding scenarios where more than one person can be honored, and allowing for at least 1 honor for opponents, would do heaps to encourage good sportsmanship.

I'm not expecting it to be the panacea for bad sportsmanship, but I think I'd see more instances of good sportsmanship with a few of these changes to the Honor System.

Before system swapped - Start of the match: "GLHF" After system swapper - End of the match: "GGEZ"

OneMustFall8/5/2019, 6:27:54 AM1 votes

I think the honor system should be changed so you can honor up to three people including the opposing team. Honor rewards for Level 4 + 5 should also give better rewards like skin shards. I think both of these changes would make the honor system feel less trivial and improve sportsmanship across the board.

Nightsky Pirate8/5/2019, 6:39:14 AM1 votes

Honestly, I think we're better off without habitual encouragement. Such is shallow. Nobody is expected to be really invested all the time, but hallow encouragement is like tasteless office cake in celebration of that worker nobody but the boss cares about. However, when you are invested and ready to encourage, do it! Your genuine emotional investment will vastly more likely promote good spirit than a half-effort prebattle salute.

That is worthy of honor.

Best Valor NA8/5/2019, 6:42:52 AM1 votes

Rarely do I ever WANT to honor my opponents, but I just had a game where we had some really close/intense fights early game in mid. We traded kills a few times and complemented each other on the plays/dodges/fights. It was truly the best experience I've had with an opposing Midland.

I so badly wish you could honor opponents still.

Agent Muffin8/5/2019, 6:45:00 AM1 votes

Yes please

JustDonnyy8/5/2019, 7:06:41 AM1 votes

The entire Honor System is pretty stupid and unrewarding currently. It would be nice to see a complete overhaul with better rewards and a way to actually see your progress instead playing for months wondering if it'll ever go up.

Meritas8/5/2019, 7:56:39 AM1 votes

You can't do it, because in Solo Queue's toxic environment allied honor would not be given in at least half the games. And really, can you blame players? So often you are forced to choose between honoring an inter, a really bad player, a flamer and a passive aggressive one if you want to progress in the Honor system.

Stephenizgod8/5/2019, 8:49:45 AM1 votes

We should just get 1 for our team and 1 for the enemy team.

Garen is adopted8/5/2019, 11:45:41 AM1 votes

the new honor system just punish (sometimes, most of times not) bad habit insead of encourage people to be decent human beings. I honestly think it even encourage more people to be toxic, especially when your teammate works hard to get that victory but there are 3 premades so he will barely get any honor cause screw everyone out of gang. I miss to not be forced to choose which one deserve more a honor and being able to honor multiple allies as well as enemies that are not 24/7 cursing how braindead and tryhard our champions are and some "compliments" to familly. I feel like I'm watching a fight in kindergather playing lol insead of a moba from like a year on.