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If youre a new player, F U

Límits·5/23/2016, 1:45:51 AM·4 votes·491 views

That's the message people send me in LoL. (Sorry for the title, but my recent match felt like I was being told this)

I finally convinced my beginning friend to try normals to gain confidence because he has been nervous about it. I was matched against players who were claiming to be plats/golds/diamonds. So what happens? my buddy gets wrecked, within 10 minutes the entire enemy team starts talking shit to our team telling us to surrender at 20, and starts making fun of my team whenever a teammate made a bad play. (I'm fine with stomps, but getting stomped and bm...)

So what I understand is, if you're a beginner, you're not welcomed here? At what point can a beginner start playing PVP and actually be placed against beginners. My buddy no longer wants to do PVP, my other teammate was also trying to teach his buddy, and he felt so bad, going as far as saying, "This is depressing, let them end, I wanted to teach my new friend but we get matched up with these vulgar people."

Worst part is, people don't care because its a "smurf" and their mains are supposedly immune to being banned.

Riot you need to find a way to make this game accessible for people who haven't been playing since beta. What problems did Lyte actually solve? Did he just lower the toxicity from one part of the game and transferred it to another?

Friend logged out, sorry for the rant.

Final Thought: Won't say I'm a clean player, I bashed back at the assholes. I agree it was unacceptable and later just muted them all instead of adding more wood to the fire.

13 Comments

iody5/23/2016, 2:08:34 AM2 votes

this is so true people dont think of league of legends as a game anymore its so competitive that people flame entire games in norms and gamemodes like urf arent enjoyable unless all you want to do is play the same 6 champs and tryhard like ranked. my point is that we need to realize its still a game and everyone is trying to get better. realistically the majority or players are "bad" i believe only 30% are above plat if even. it should be more of a focus of the community to better eachother and help other players learn and to learn from other players not bm and flame for being bad.

xPlainDollx5/23/2016, 1:53:29 AM1 votes

I know what you mean. I started playing League of Legends this winter and I got a very unfriendly vibe toward new players as well. It almost feels like the community thinks of League as their own little clubhouse. No on new can get in without the password and if you do, you need to constantly prove that you're worthy of being there. I had actually played quite a few RTS's in the past so I picked it up quicker than others but I have been, and have seen many others, the victim of smurfs that bash all new players in lower Elo's. Most of my posts on the forums have been about things similar to this as well. It's something that is constantly thrown in your face as a player of League and, to be honest, me and a lot of other people are starting to get really sick of it. It's a shame Riot doesn't seem to know what an IP is and that even if someone is smurfing, their IP is still the same.

VvVVvV5/23/2016, 1:58:43 AM1 votes

Just mute them and keep playing. Even if they are smurfs.....that will just make you better. I dont know what people that "smurf" get out of it. To me its just stupid. Why spend your time on here playing against people you know you are higher skilled than? It doesn't help them improve in anyway. And if they are boosting it really doesn't help the people they are boosting because once they start to play for themselves again at their higher tier they themselves will be the ones getting stomped, unless they get better.

So just take it as them doing you a favor. The more you play against people higher skilled the better you will eventually get. So just mute them.

Cavemantero5/23/2016, 2:15:01 AM1 votes

Honestly, the elo ranking system has led to League being one of the games with the most toxic and poor sports gamers I've ever seen. There is an elitist attitude that basically pours from the top down. Players make their own teammates their enemies when they start losing and are a bigger reason why teams lose games than the actual skill of the opposing team. I quit before season one started due to the toxic players.

The game became so popular in a fairly short window of time, but it has so many flaws that have actually become worse since I returned playing in season 3. It is a team game but team work is really simply based on individual performance with this game. If teammates actually saw you as such, they wouldn't be that way. Summoner's rift has now been designed for one player to dominate the other 9...not for a team of 5 to win against another team of 5.

I'm going to be real here...the only way to learn to play this game is by sticking it out and muting your teammates. All of them unless they are friends. There will not be any real coordination if you are voice chatting so you're actually better off just muting everyone at the start of the game.

New players should start out by learning a different champions kits in games against CPU. This will help you get an idea on what style and lane position you want to learn to play. It's best to learn a little bit of all of them, but that will help steer you towards learning how to play a few you have chosen as go to champs.

Focus on laning SAFELY and DEFENSIVELY first....even though it's almost impossible to do now thanks to the season 6 balance changes where damage is so high and tower diving is now a 'safe' tactic, learning how to do that and getting CS is what will give new players the best chance to compete after the early phase.

The snowballing that is taking place now also prevents new players from learning as they aren't really given a chance to learn from their mistakes...they just simply die over and over to a snowballing experienced player so it is even more important to try to learn how to lane safely which includes predicting and warding against ganks.

After that, I'd say learn team fighting. ARAM is a great place to develop team fight skills as well as dodging, positioning, and CSing since it is so difficult there with 5 opposing teammates aiming at your face. You will develop team fighting skills much much faster there than playing normals.

As far as jungle and map awareness, the only real learning tools apart from just gaining experience for that is watching youtube videos on jungling and warding.

Learning when to be aggressive is the pretty much the only thing you can really learn through experience and this is where I find most of my teammates fail as this game isn't the same as FPS death match which many players have brought bad habits from. For example, I laned with an Irelia in URF today who lost us the game by taking a bad dive when we were actually winning lane and could afford to play safer. It wasn't simply a greedy play which happens from time to time, it was just sheer over-agression. She had been feeding non-sensically earlier but we were able to maintain until that last dive.

With that said, impatience will kill beginners in this game and it will ruin them from experiencing what this game actually has to offer if the toxic teammates don't first.

Rand0mH3r0X5/23/2016, 2:17:56 AM1 votes

I'm totally for Riot ending smurphing. One person, One Account. I've always had this position.