Every time I come back to league it's more toxic.

it be lìke that·9/19/2018, 5:36:11 PM·18 votes·10,187 views

Can't make it through one game without someone on the team flaming others or making passive aggressive backhanded comments to everyone. (Seems to have shifted to mostly toxic junglers these days) how does it not improve but only get worse with everything riot has tried? Been chat restricted never suspended (I argue a lot but don't sink to childish shit) but its actually exhausting and no one plays games to not enjoy it.

Idk people say riot is killing league but it isn't, it's the toxic ass playerbase.

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Vll5tQL3xS9/19/2018, 7:33:23 PM7 votes

There are a few reasons for this. The first one being that toxic players are not punished properly.

1st offense - 10 game "Chat Restriction" (you can still chat, just in a limited fashion) 2nd offense - 25 game "Chat Restriction" 3rd offense - 14 day ban 4th offense - permaban

An independent study being conducted by students from UC Hastings, UC Berkeley, and San Francisco State are finding that the majority of these players who are being permabanned simply remake accounts, and continue playing. The main issue causing most of the toxicity on the servers is the chat system provided by Riot Games, and they have never fully removed it from a toxic player. They have removed a single players ability to speak to other players, and they described this as ineffective, but they have never removed a players ability to see what other players are saying, and that is just as important at limiting a toxic players ability to disrupt games because if they cannot harass others, and cannot be harassed by others, than they are much less likely to behave in an out of control way in game. Many argue these players will just demonstrate their toxic behavior in other ways, but many people tilt while playing the game. Even if it's only for a couple mins after dying a couple times in a row. Rarely do players complain about this kind of tilt, because it is honestly natural to the sport, but people do complain about what people have to say about eachother over the chat system.

I believe Riot understands their chat system is a huge cause to the problems on the servers, and I believe they understand permabanning accounts is ineffective at removing toxic players from the servers. I also believe there is money to be made because this independent study is showing that most of the players who have spent more than 100 dollars on their accounts that are banned, remake those accounts and rebuy skins that they have already purchased.

Cavesloth9/19/2018, 7:41:05 PM4 votes

Arguably the toxic player base is riots fault. When they put snowball runes into the game and made comebacks near impossible, what did they think was gonna happen? Granted yes, people are all responsible for their own actions, and should be held to account for them, but so should Riot for creating this mess that is the game now.

When losing feels like having someone rip off your head and shit down your neck for 15-20 min with little hope of escape because your plucky teammates and their "never surrender" attitude (which don't get me wrong, I would have found endearing last season, when their WAS hope of a comeback) even after going 0/10/0 botlane when even just one of those deaths can cost you the game, its not exactly surprising that even the best of people are succumbing to toxicity now. Riot can't ban them all because they'd lose most of the remaining players if they did that to everyone that had a game where they lost their temper and got toxic. Again, not that I'm defending them, just saying I can understand why they do it.

Another thing is the fact that inters still aren't punished properly because "they could be just having a bad game". A smart company would have programming to watch for people going on long streaks with seriously negative KDAs (-8 -10, somewhere in that range), and if it goes on too long, they should get suspended.

Its one thing to have a bad game, or even couple bad games, but because of the MMR system, if you do poorly for awhile eventually you should drop down to where you will do better if you aren't doing poorly on purpose. Could inters get around this sort of system? Probably, but if it's designed well enough they will have to at least do well in some games, and that's games they aren't ruining for 4 other people, and it'd be worth it in my book.

If they fix anything though, it should be the snowball. I think you'd see ALOT of the toxicity disappear if games weren't so damn stressful becuase one mistake can cost you the game (and 15-30 minutes of your life down the drain).

R107 Games9/19/2018, 7:56:13 PM3 votes

Mute toxic players,pretty fucking easy

rtbf2256182419/20/2018, 12:01:53 AM2 votes

it doesn't get worse. At least not in EUW. You sometimes meet great people. sometime those that don't qualify as humans.

It's like flipping a coin. It's not a 50% chance depending on how you flip it or when you flip it, but you know it's relatively random.

Baka Red9/20/2018, 1:04:24 PM2 votes

I cannot say anything about increase in toxicity with each come back, since I have been playing league continuously ever since I started it. My opinion is, that toxicity has remained pretty much the same, or even go down a little during the four to five years I have been here. This could in part be because I do not have all chat open and I have never had it open in the first place; I believe this protects me from lots of toxicity and I recommend people to do the same; turn off all chat and enjoy the if-not-quite-toxicity-free-league-then-at-least-lot-less-toxic-league.

A Fish With Legs9/20/2018, 8:00:00 PM2 votes

I assume that if the team falls behind or is losing, the person being toxic on that team wants to take down the team even faster, making the game even more toxic.

Hell, in one of my last games, we were doing well until the Shyv jg got outplayed by the enemy support, and then she blamed everyone on the team and using a lot of hate speech. We didn't do too bad, but after Shyv decided to sabotage the team's morale and ruin the fun in the game, the game ended pretty quickly.

I agree that the toxic playerbase is the reason for why League is stagnating. League isn't going to die any time soon, but as every season passes, the community becomes much more toxic than previous seasons.

WorstPicnicEver 9/22/2018, 6:14:55 PM1 votes

The whole behavior system was designed by Jeff "Lyte" Lin - a quick google search should tell you all you need to know about the reasons for its failure. Mr. Lin was one creepy toxic messed up dude.

Nea1049/19/2018, 9:58:54 PM1 votes

No, it is Riot. I'm not justufying ummanered people, I'm blaming them. Still, toxic people are a consequence, expecially when Riot does NOTHING about them, nor about trolls, inters and so on.

The lack of serious controls, and the awful overall state of the game (for which Riot is entirely responsible), have caused this situation.

Phoenixdust9/19/2018, 11:45:09 PM1 votes

And what causes the toxic playerbase? Rito!

Maybe they should start removing the trolls and soft inters, so less people would have a reason to be toxic O.o

The game being more snowbally than before doesn't help either :D

LtnJohn9/19/2018, 11:51:45 PM1 votes

i dont understand player's go flaming and toxic on some one... damn its just a game, we all player the game to have some fun and lose or win idc but toxic player's need to stop and end it or more player's will leave the Lol.

[slayer-jinx-unamused] [sg-ahri-1]

MrFawknSunshine9/19/2018, 11:55:14 PM1 votes

yep. people rather be toxic , flame and argue about the game instead of playing the game. welcome to the new meta .

long time no see, i saw you pop up on friends list the other day, hope all is well.

LL Lightslinger9/20/2018, 2:19:27 AM1 votes

I don't believe in toxicity. Why is everyone so sensitive? its just a random person that isn't involved in your life, and you let what they say get to you?

I think one of the fun parts of LoL right now is the banter between teams and teammates.