Long story short. Nasus gave first blood, ran it down top, then ran it down bot. Malzahar died then left, and we were left to fight 3v5 (and we still did surprisingly well). My question is, why aren't inters instant bans? Especially when the nasus has 8cs at 18 minutes..
Timethief495 votesIt is but its harder to automate than flaming. People can be new players, play a champ for the first time, have a bad game, have technical difficulties. Riot cant hire thousands of people to watch every game.
Taktykal1 votesIt is but its harder to automate than flaming. People can be new players, play a champ for the first time, have a bad game, have technical difficulties. Riot cant hire thousands of people to watch every game.
yes they can hire, they have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of money
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesBecause it's virtually impossible to automatically detect int feeding.
Let's take an example from your post. Let's say we base it off of CS. If you have no CS by (x) time, and you're reported, you'll be punished for inting, because that's an easy way to check.
Problem number 1: Riot forgets to encode it to not happen for ARAM and random game modes that involve low CS. Now a fuckton of people got banned.
Problem number 2: Supports. Enchanters don't CS. Or at least shouldn't be. Problem number 2.1: Riot encodes it so that enchanters aren't counted for this. Now inters are just feeding on enchanters. And they forget to code a new enchanter as an enchanter for these purposes, and half the community is banned.
There are just countless problems with an automated system for this.
Jo0o2 votesAnd even when all these gaps are closed, there are still going to be exceptions.
Say you're top lane, get cheesed level 1 for first blood, then the enemy laner freezes lane at their turret. You're gonna be utterly starved for cs for a while, especially if they're just better than you independent of xp/gold differences, especially if you're something like Garen with no ranged farm options or dashes.
Hell, people would even try to force somebody into that situation for kicks, once the parameters are made known. Say you need 50 cs by 20 minutes to be considered not feeding. I guarantee you, folks will use freezes and camping to utterly shut somebody out of the game and hurt their account. Hell, now that I mention it, I think I did this once solo: I was Yorick against a Nasus that was clearly not a great player, and the enemy jungler wasn't present top lane, so I actually shoved his entire lane down his throat and killed him a whole bunch of times. Poor guy had like Phage+boots at 20 minutes, and was desperately trying to hold off super minions on his nexus turrets.
The Def0rmed1 votesI see what you mean. But still, 12 deaths 8 cs at 18 minutes is obviously feeding. Although lower level games (pre-30) will have to be tinkered with in the system...
Jo0o2 votesBecause Riot is scared to ban folks for being bad at the game, lagging, or other legitimate excuses, so they seem to require manual reviews for intentional feeders, and those manual reviews get bogged down by people rage-reporting folks for simply doing poorly. Your example is certainly an int feeder, but Riot probably hasn't gotten around to looking at it yet.
I had an int feeder in my promos this season get banned about five days after I reported him, despite not feeding in any game after mine. Now, for all I know he got banned for chat offenses rather than feeding, but it's possible that it just took several days for Riot to examine his behavior and make a decision.
sleepysithlord2 votesRito doesnt care about int feeding, simple.
deathgod52 votesI answered the question before with this quoted comment. TLDR: it is an instant ban when caught, but it is not that strong of a system.
Simple answer I went into a while ago.
The int ban system isn't as directly trustworthy as a flaming system. #Flaming Flaming is easy to detect and is hard to dispute. If somebody calls an other person a stupid ni***r it is 100 percent a easy ban.
- It is 100 percent logged and clear;
- It is harder to dispute;
- It is is still an offence and annoyance for many people.
#Inter system It seems simple at first, you ban people that are clearly inting you might get trolls that profit on that like tahm kench runners that just run/flash their adc into the enemy team. You either need to manually review the cases or have multiple cases open or have a very specific bot be triggered.
If they manually review all cases
- They probably wouldn't send out instant feedback considering it wouldn't be the instant feedback system;
- They would keep this a secret because people would report everything as inting to have a "human review".
If they mechanically reviewed cases.
- They might hold back in feedback to reporters because these cases tend to be contested like the youmuus 14 day ban https://twitter.com/YoumuusYT/status/874808328173608960 ;
- The system might not directly ban people based on one game because of set false postives.
Total Atrophy1 votes“Open mid”-The Ref0rmed
The Def0rmed1 votesLmfao.
Naribelle1 votesBecause there are so many people that report people who are genuinely trying, basically. The guy you had was obviously a feeder, but someone learning their champ, or in a bad matchup, or whose laner is simply much better at the game than them could have the same score as a feeder and would get an undeserved ban just for wanting to play at all. A system like this would only discourage anyone from ever trying to learn and it would kill the fun of the game for a lot of people because they'd never get to try out that champion that they thought looked fun to play but was mechanically difficult so they'd get banned for trying to learn. There is only so much you can do on bots, whenever I try to learn a new champ, I go to bots to understand their abilities only, because you can solo hardstomp bots and then go into a normal game and go 0/12 just because there is more to a champion than just knowing what their abilities do
KVbqbFsC8e1 votes"just a bad game"
EL HAMSTERO1 votesvery hard to detect. they had stricter feeder detection for a while but they were punishing a lot of people who later proved to be innocent.
Goldilux1 votesI think player behavior in game is harder to automate compared to scanning chat?
AlienPrimate1 votesOne problem is this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOfAT74x2Ls
He had a terrible score and could have played things differently, but it was obvious he was trying to win and still got banned anyways.
Jo0o1 votesWell, he also said "I'm literally inting" in the game, which confused matters =P
Got it fixed and reverted pretty quickly, if memory serves?