14 Day Suspension, Where did I go wrong here?

Ultra Rapid Feed·3/8/2019, 5:21:31 AM·8 votes·6,717 views

I was given a 14 Day ban for intentionally feeding in an ARURF Game as Rengar, Versus Zed, Fizz, Vladimir, Khazix, Bard. Can I get some help understanding where exactly I went wrong to lead to a 14 Day ban instead of atleast a warning?

I have no offenses on this account so this is my 1st.

Some clarity, I built Move speed Rengar, going Predator, Celerity, and Nimbus Cloak. My teammates really didn't like that and decided to report me. I don't have the replay as it was more than 20+ games ago (I played a LOT of URF the night it was supposed to go down) but I have the match history here.

Other details are in the picture.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2991769493/64892793?tab=stats&participant=2

62 Comments

AeroWaffle3/8/2019, 5:26:28 AM6 votes

Not sure what you want us to do. Judging from that support chat it looks like they have manually looked into you case and deemed the punishment valid. We don't have the ability to watch the replay like they did.

Are you asking people to come to a different conclusion based on less information?

Lazersnaw3/8/2019, 5:42:13 AM5 votes

Urf is a game where you pretty much have higher chances of dying instantly and usually have a high death count or kill count of 20. I honestly was surprised after reading this how horrible that support ticket person was.

I dont know what to do really...these are the people that deal with problems like this. Im really sorry man i would ban this guy if i could hes a real piece of crap, hope you get a different support ticket guy cause this ones an asshole.

Ephixus3/8/2019, 5:58:52 AM4 votes

LMFAO inting reports in ARURF shouldn't even be a thing.

Wow this punishment system is utter garbage.

Doombot3/8/2019, 9:17:58 AM3 votes

The supports job is to justify what the system did and they give you general copy paste replies, as you can clearly see, this person isn't even addressing the points you tried to explain, can''t even tell if they took the time to read your message completely. Telling somebody who got banned for inting "you were not trying to win" without pointing at any proof.... you can always do that, takes no brain. I would not believe that they actually reviewed this properly, because the "review" is probably part of the automated system as well.

But hey, maybe I am wrong and they reviewed it only to give a reply that looks like copy pasted within 10 seconds, maybe that makes sense? I doubt it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this support agent is also just a bot that scans your messages for keywords and then spits out prefab replies, you wouldn't notice the difference.

l LOST MY SHlP3/8/2019, 2:41:55 PM3 votes

Not sure who's a bigger r%%%%% here, the guy who reviewed and banned a bronze player over a single arurf bad game(vs vlad fizz and zed that's an instant lose in bronze) or guys who actuality support this ban. You are actually handling this pretty good, you didn't do anything bad, just trying to make a trash game into a fun one. You shouldn't be banned if you ask me, unfortunately nobody is. Best of luck to you.

Darknesshas13/8/2019, 7:52:38 AM2 votes

Your first problem was that you got hostile toward the Service Rep. That is the fastest way in the book to get someone to not help you. Also, they said that "You we'ren't working with your team". That sounds like you decided that you we're gonna farm elsewhere or dive straight at a champ you couldn't fight alone. Int'ing is a serious problem and when you don't help your team, they'll get angry at you for going off alone and making the problem worse

420 grams3/8/2019, 6:37:34 AM2 votes

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Jo0o3/8/2019, 5:31:32 AM2 votes

Man, Riot's really in over their head trying to determine intent in feeding during URF. Combine not knowing how to play the champs you get assigned with the comically unfair nature of half the kits in that game mode and the ability to return to the fray in seconds flat, and it should come as no surprise that somebody might die 19 times in 25 minutes.

That said, I think what got you in trouble is how deep some of your deaths are. A ban for intentional feeding is most obvious when somebody runs it down throughout a game, but it's technically against the rules to run it down at all. The main thing jumping out at me from your death locations is the one inside the enemy base, despite your team not having even made it past tier 2 turrets.

Still, color me extremely skeptical of Riot Support in this case. Urf is a for-fun bullshit gamemode where some folks are gonna get 30 kills and others are gonna get 20 deaths. I can't see why they'd crack down on something like your game here.

ChrisBrownze3/8/2019, 5:43:37 AM2 votes

Normally we could just get the replay off another player in that game who hasnt played as many games since but because the game happened on the last patch the replay isnt viewable this patch anymore so its impossible to judge.

Considering youre only bronze and all your enemies were higher ranks last season, the high deaths does not automatically indicate inting and with no replay I dont think the boards can argue in any direction.

The only evidence I could find is that the following game opgg shows you selling all your items and buying 6 tears at 23min even though the game lasted 25 and a half min. This shows me you at least didnt take that game seriously all the way till the end but your team was so far ahead in kills it didnt really matter.

I think its ridiculous you got banned for an urf game even if you did troll considering the amount of ranked games Ive had someone troll me and not get banned. Its just urf, pretty shocked people would even report in urf for feeding.

Tahngarthor3/8/2019, 5:57:38 AM2 votes

People seem to think that just because they're playing a less serious game mode, that the rules should be less seriously enforced. Just because it's not ranked, doesn't mean the people playing don't want to have a good experience.

Boatwhistle3/8/2019, 7:41:08 AM2 votes

Looking at the build and your cs relative to everyone elses then technically you weren't doing your best to win. Not saying I agree but "doing your best to win" is a pretty vague standard since technically anyone doing any off meta or not focusing on farm could be said to not be doing their best to win. Without recording though who is to say you didn't just stand there at least once and let them kill you despite you being able to see you would get caught and then you didn't use a blatant escape.

I have stood and allowed a champion to kill me only to get reported to hell over it which was bs. I had no ay to get away and we were going to ff anyway on account of the feeder ffing. No good would have come of the effort and there was no point to trying, yet players so often either don't think or are enjoying the opportunity to be dicks.

Vreivai3/8/2019, 7:26:46 PM1 votes

I do feel the need to ask what you were doing inside the opposing team's base when only two of their outer turrets had been killed all game. That said, bad decisions (which is what this appears to be the result of) should never result in bans. Riot fucked up here, and needs to admit it.

As for why you didn't get a warning, they don't issue warnings. First offense is a 14-day ban.

Azazel Aerternum3/8/2019, 10:19:42 PM1 votes

Well, technically you went wrong around when you began to play something other than Normal Summoner's Rift, everything after that is merely causality of the initial fall from grace, and subsequent path of eternal doom and brimstone that awaits all who dare to veer from it.

On a more serious note, you went wrong when you operated under the assumption that Riot has a fair, let alone Just, system for dealing with players that are reported. My understanding has been that they will look for any justification to maintain said ban, and will do so even if it is operating under an illogical path. I.e. you can get falsely reported, and then banned, even if they were to verify that the final report(s) were falsified, they would still uphold the ban. They also take what you say, or don't say, too seriously.

Honestly, I'm at the point where I just wish they'd give me a pre-game option to turn off chat.