why are you more likely to get banned for vebal abuse over inting/afking/trolling

Death by Glamour··11 votes·650 views

i can stop you flaming with a mute

i cannot alter your play style

riot you really need to come down far harder on people who troll their team

edit - getting downvoted for asking riot to come down harder on trolls and intentional feeders...

19 Comments

Lauchmelder13 votes

It's easier to have evidence of a flamer than having evidence of a troll.

Icathian Creed4 votes

Thats the main reason right there.

AFK could be crappy internet Inting, god I fucking hate that word. Just cause someone is doing poorly doesnt mean they are feeding intentionally. Trolling, as long as its normals, its fine to try new things, not really trolling just because that new thing doesnt work well or doesnt fit the meta

Its a game man, calm down

Death by Glamour3 votes

im not talking about people playing tf adc or ap xin nor about someone playing poorly we all have those games.

more like someone running it down mid or refusing to group with the team hence losing the game

Icathian Creed2 votes

Thats not called inting or trolling, thats called not cooperating with team. And theres a whole nother report catagory for that

Death by Glamour2 votes

running it down mid isnt inting now?

out right refusing to group with your team isnt trolling them?

by that logic its pretty clear why so many people get away with it

archerno11 votes

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im not talking about people playing tf adc or ap xin nor about someone playing poorly we all have those games.

more like someone running it down mid or refusing to group with the team hence losing the game

It all comes down to the fact that its hard to prove

Death by Glamour3 votes

is it though.

i could post recordings of recent games were a certain aatrox player died twice in lane and then proceeded to run down every lane

or

a cass who failed a soloing baron and then refused to group with the team because apparently it was our fault she died

but ofc the mods would remove them as this is against the naming and shaming policy, even though the proof is there to be seen.

archerno13 votes

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is it though.

i could post recordings of recent games were a certain aatrox player died twice in lane and then proceeded to run down every lane

or

a cass who failed a soloing baron and then refused to group with the team because apparently it was our fault she died

but ofc the mods would remove them as this is against the naming and shaming policy, even though the proof is there to be seen.

Ye but someone would have to go through that video.

Chermorg1 votes

Did you report them? The system is, in fact, very accurate and good at catching lane-runners. Hence why they're less common now, I haven't seen a true "run it down mid" or anything like that in months.

Paquay1 votes

I disagree. I've had my handful of "run it down mid" trolls and I've never, not once, seen them punished.

I know it happens, I don't dispute that. But it is very infrequent. All you have to do is take a little cs here and there, buy a few items every now and then, out a few hits on enemy champions, and the system will label it a bad game as opposed to inting.

I've seen it too many times to be coincidence. The ones who get banned are just the dumb ones.

SanKakU1 votes

And then Riot created replays...and highlights!

Lauchmelder1 votes

And how do you see that he trolls? Could be a bad player. Intentional feeding is obvious, what about that guy that intentionally misses his skillshots so he loses the game?

The system you guys want is a system with a high af failure quote.

Dolyna2 votes

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why are you more likely to get banned for vebal abuse over inting/afking/trolling

Obviously because it's a lot harder to write code to check for inting/afking/trolling than it is to check for verbal abuse.

Riot is getting better at developing that kind of code, though. They're making progress.

NinjaGuy692 votes

Most of the punishments are handled by the Instant Feedback System (IFS) except for AFK punishments (which are handled by the Leavebuster System). Unfortunately, it's much harder for the system to detect intentional feeding because it is tuned to prevent itself from handing out liberal punishments to players who might have just been having a bad game. However, players who are intentionally feeding and/or trolling are punished much more severely. Usually, the first punishment for verbal abuse is a chat ban but the punishment for intentional feeding (even if it was your first offense) is a 14-day ban.

If you had someone in your game who you believed was intentionally feeding, I'd recommend you download the replay, convert it to a format that you can upload to YouTube and then send the link in a report ticket on Riot's Support webpage. It sucks because it can take some work, but it's the best way to make sure that an intentional feeder/troll gets punished.

Telephone Booth1 votes

I think you're getting downvoted for asking a question with an obvious answer, not for saying they should punish trolls and shit harder Or more efficiently (which is a very common thought). So basically you're just stating the obvious and putting it in the form of a question. Incase you somehow don't actually know the answer, it's because chat is so easy to detect and punish for.

NlGHTFIRE1 votes

Honestly I agree with you man, I am more likely to get someone who trolls and/or ints in a game than flames. Even when I get someone who flames I just mute them. I hate when people say "it is just a game chill out." Because I am playing ranked for the sole reason of wanting competition otherwise I could be in normals. I have a limited about of free time and idk why I waste it playing league if all I am going to get is trolls.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

Chat and afk behaviors are handled automatically, where as general intentional feeding, trolling, etc has to be manually reviewed after reports.

im udyrman1 votes

i was playing a game when my only prayers is not to play against tryndamere and by God's will I was against hi. i got banned for flaming on a goddamn op at character who has no skill and not getting a NERF and got banned for flaming wtf of course someone would rage on a tryndamere who could kill u on 3 basic attacks with his op ult

im udyrman1 votes

and he reported me for feeding and troll how?

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