Exactly How Thin Is The Post-Punishment Ice?

Nutsmacko·9/5/2017, 10:11:19 PM·3 votes·767 views

To start, I've been an almost 100% active player since I started playing in mid season 4. Until a few weeks ago, I had never received punishment. After a night of being particularly toxic, I got a 14-day suspension, and, although initially shocked, I totally understand why, and I'm not trying to argue against my suspension (in all honesty, I probably should've been perma-banned, it was really bad, so I'm thankful for that). Since I've been able to play again, I've looked at the player behavior boards, looking for other player's punishments, and noticed that after a 14-day ban the slightest thing will get you perma'd. I'm trying to understand exactly how tame I have to be, because it seems like even saying something like "noob" can get your account suspended, and I'm nervous to log into the client and contemplating unbinding my enter key.

TL;DR How behaved to I have to be and for how long until I can relax a little?

18 Comments

Silent Gravity9/6/2017, 9:19:18 PM5 votes

I know you're going to be careful about insulting and arguing from the other responses in the thread. There are a couple common behaviors that the IFS flags as aggravating a situation that aren't as well known that are easy to avoid once you know about them.

Don't call for reports. Don't inform someone that you're reporting or muting them. Don't link someone's KDA or CS. Don't call trolls trolls or inters inters.

One report is enough. The system runs a review for any report. More don't do anything.

Reporting or muting are private decisions. A muted person that wants your attention may resort to trolling. A person who knows they're being reported already may feel like there isn't a reason to keep under control (the minimum that they had) because they're already being reported.

People already know their cs and KDA, the only reason to bring it up is to rub their face in how poorly they're doing. (If you're trying to help them play safer, use future tense language to make a plan of action, like: "farm cs in the top lane until you have another item". The IFS flags criticism, but not plans.)

If a troll is trolling or an inter is inting, they already know it and are doing it to get a response out of you. Responding to them publicly gives them what they want. If a person is playing poorly, and they're tilting then criticism of this sort can break their will. If a person is csing poorly, they're already getting frustrated that they're csing poorly. Frustration leads to more mistakes. If someone keeps getting caught out and killed, they may get frustrated and try to earn back the deficit by playing even more aggressively. That'll easily lead to feeding the enemy more. Insults won't help, and can even lead many to actually inting.

Also, if a person is just not good at the game, insulting them won't make them any better. If it's ranked, eventually they'll derank. Everyone also has off games. Some more than others, but as long as anyone can have a good game where they do better than normal, anyone can have a bad game where they perform worse than normal. Insulting people because their performance has a bell curve distribution doesn't make sense, because the criticism can't change anything.

BobaFlautist9/5/2017, 10:34:15 PM4 votes

I can't speak for your specific situation, but here's my rule of thumb that has worked well enough that I've never even gotten chat restricted: don't argue and insult. If you disagree with someone's call/opinion, that's fine, but don't insult them. If someone's being a piece of shit (in terms of behavior, not play) go ahead and tell them, but immediately mute them - don't go on about it

Like I've literally said "fuck off, you piece of shit" multiple times and never been with punished, because A. They were being shitty and B. I said it and moved on with my life.

ModThe Djinn9/6/2017, 12:39:32 AM3 votes

Since you seem to have a pretty good idea of what you did wrong and how to avoid it in the future, I'll get directly to the point: your account will be on extremely thin ice for at least a decent amount of time. For the next month or two I would make sure you don't type anything that could be taken as anything other than positive or objectively neutral.

We've heard it takes about 3 to 4 months to regain an account's standing, and I would probably be careful for a little bit longer than that just in case. At that point you can probably relax a little bit, provided that relaxing does not mean start behaving negatively towards other players.

fdshadfdcfx9/6/2017, 2:48:37 AM3 votes

I'm currently on a 14 day suspension as well it's amazing what happens on a late night bender... but i digress, back to my main point i'm just going to keep it real simple /mute all

Chermorg9/5/2017, 10:22:35 PM3 votes

To be completely honest with you, you shouldn't relax.

You will drop punishment tiers over time and games played. However, you should not "relax" and go back to your old ways or you risk running into another suspension. Rack up a lot of chat restrictions or bans and Riot may manually review your account and issue a permanent ban even if you've reformed before your other punishments.

True reform is to just stop being toxic altogether.

SavageConcordia9/5/2017, 10:23:06 PM3 votes

Once you have been hit with a 14-day, the best rule of thumb is to ask yourself if the behavior warrants a punishment of any sort (even a chat ban) if the answer is yes, then it can get you permabanned.

katsiaryna9/6/2017, 3:16:34 AM1 votes

Always flame by adding after game never in game.

Drugoth9/6/2017, 9:41:47 PM1 votes

Wafer thin.

Shadòw9/6/2017, 9:44:16 PM1 votes

best would be that you just try to don't write anything.

when you unlocked loot again you probably already dropped down a tier I think.

Friendly Ram9/6/2017, 9:46:32 PM1 votes

A stray fuck you can break the ice and i believe it was 4+months of good behavior before you drop tiers.

Deneviel9/6/2017, 9:54:21 PM1 votes

I would say forget that chat exist .... your only sentence should be "GG" and "SS or MIA"

If possible play with friends or club members in order to avoid random report for a bad match from a 9 yo that think to be a pro.

None asaid from RIOT know for how long you will stay under the radar but it's prob a quite long time.

Dehitay9/6/2017, 9:58:48 PM1 votes

There's generally 4 levels of punishment. A 14 day suspension is either the 2nd or 3rd. I think it's the 3rd, but I can't remember for sure. For each level of punishment, I believe there is a 3 month period before you drop a level. So if it's the 2nd level of punishment, it will be 6 months before you're treated like you weren't punished hard. If it's the 3rd level, 9 months before you're treated that way. However, since the 4th level is a permaban, there's really no forgiveness period for that.