Having expectations of a teammate is not toxic

HavelDaRock·12/4/2015, 4:15:39 AM·9 votes·1,166 views

I keep getting in games called toxic and other teammates being labeled as such for simply point out facts and holding expectations in the game.

For example, Top lane Darius is moving down to the mid lane, top lane pings several mias and a warning on mid. I'm jungle and I'm in bot side jung, too far away to effect the situation. So I ping as well.

20 seconds later "AN ALLY HAS BEEN SLAIN"

Mid laner just died... even though we both warned him.

I said in chat "Did you not see all our pings?"

Our mid and support "OMG YOU'RE SO TOXIC WTF, YOUR MOM DROPPED YOU ON YOUR HEAD. etc. etc."

It just seems like people don't seem to understand what toxicity really is and use it as a get out of jail free card when someone criticizes their play.

TL;DR: Expecting people to react to pings and warnings in game is not toxic.

24 Comments

GundayMonday12/4/2015, 7:08:36 AM3 votes

But being a jerk about it after they make a mistake is toxic.

GWJin12/5/2015, 5:03:29 AM2 votes

agree 100%

Kikirino12/4/2015, 5:45:16 AM2 votes

I ganked a lane for a TF just recently and he stood there as I barely solo killed his lane opponent. TF was full health so I said "Next time I gank you should try contributing" and he threatened to afk because I was toxic... Fucking forbid I expect people to help kill shit when I gank their lane.

PIMPSMOOTH12/4/2015, 6:13:19 AM2 votes

Nobody likes being told what to do or how to play by another teammate, it's annoying as hell, especially trying to correct them after they make a mistake and berating players for every mistake made through the course of the game because in your opinion it's 'fact'.

Regardless of how tactfully you may word your cough constructive cough commentary of "pointing out facts" the bottom line is you're Silver, so you're not in a position to be doling out critical analysis all game long to Silver teammates. Plus, do you really think anyone wants advice from someone calling themselves 'GoGoNegroRangers'? No, they don't.

The more time you spend typing out how-to guides to your teammates the less you're paying attention and contributing to the match and your lane. Control what you can control in matches and that's your own play.

Slamurai Jack12/4/2015, 4:59:06 AM2 votes

If someone is gonna play like they're trolling, I'm probably gonna say something. If that's toxic, then so be it.

PIMPSMOOTH12/4/2015, 6:42:05 AM1 votes

Pinging and berating a player aka "pointing out facts" will do nothing to achieve what the OP hopes to achieve, that's the point. In fact, opening the dialogue for every 'common sense' mistake he perceives would result in more typing than actual focus on the match because we all know that elo is chock full of mistakes 24/7.

There's no straw man, the fact remains the OP is Silver and what he perceives as 'facts' in the match are highly debatable. Mentioning his rank is not done to belittle him, I'm Silver myself, it's to illustrate the fact he isn't so much better than the other 4 teammates that he should be telling them what to do, where to position, what items to buy, et cetera. They'll continue to do what they want to do, period.

Honestly, would you be receptive to analysis from a dude named 'GoGoNegroRangers' every time you made a mistake? I doubt it.

Samus7212/5/2015, 10:43:26 AM1 votes

Here's a suggestion: NEVER tell another person online how to play. ** EVER**

They will never take it politely. They will never accept that you wanted to help them. They will never like you for it. Nothing good will come from trying to help.

But if they were told exactly the way the OP stated and got reported for it, they should not worry at all. But next time, just laugh at the monitor and move on.