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Solution To Toxicity

Sendor·5/14/2017, 12:39:59 AM·5 votes·773 views
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Now first let it be know, That I am not toxic, I am not under chat restriction, I am not banned. Proof of in the link. Redacted friends list because none of your business, moving on.

Where Riot themselves has said banned players due to toxicity end up returning on another account, but other rioters have also stated that a majority quit league. Aside from what riot states, I believe they keep coming back on alt/smurf accounts due to the fact that their system has yet to purify toxicity and most likely never will before league dies out. (League will die, sorry plebs, all games die) However I always see these dumbass players make GD discussions stating. "I'm not toxic riot banned me for no reason" Or the famous, "HELP I WAS HACKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Nobody is hacking your Dirt 5 account with no runes and 7 skins. Shut up.) SO being as they always come back I propose a permanent solution in which all your special snowflakes on the rift can play and the not so special snowflakes can too. Permanent chat restriction. Not the limited chat. A new you don't have the right to speak chat restriction.

Problem solved, if your ever so toxic, you lose the right to speak in chat. Forever. Special snowflakes keep their innocence, and angry toxic ragers get to keep playing. If after losing the right to speak in chat they decide to start intentional feeding or in some other way assist the enemy team or lose the game for their team. Ban the account. I see no reason to ban account based on chat offenses.

This is a T rated game, barring online interactions. (Citation, http://prntscr.com/f7jisf ) So expect T rated content. Teenagers of this generation curse rage and get angry at games. Online games have always host this form of behavior. Blizzard games has it, They don't really care that much. DOTA Has it, (No self proof, DOTA comment based on info from friends and forums) and they do not really care that much. Toxicity in competitive gaming is a fact, not a suggestion. You pit two people against each other, and they will develop animosity for each other this is the standard, not all people fit in this category, but it is the standard of all online gaming. You can look at any PVP gameplay and there will be toxicity, no matter where the community is. So instead of trying to find these patchwork fixes, just fix the root of the problem, The ability to chat is the problem, if you remove the ability to chat the issue is simply solved. There is no reason to chat in league of legends. A majority of the time it's "GG" "GJ" Or some rager compiling some keyboard finger mashing into some stupid toxic racist/sexist/brutal comment that some special snowflake needs to go suck on his binkie to cope with. League of legends is not a safe space. It is a competitive pvp environment and with that and the ability to talk to your team and the other team comes friction, differing opinions, and animosity. Now I am no psychological expert like that dumbass Lyte, (That I believe did nothing but contribute to worsening the state of toxicity in league) but I do interact with hundreds of people on a daily basis, be it my job or video games. But when people disagree with each other they become aggressive towards each other, or they debate the disagreement, or they just ignore each other. So I propose that riot just simply removes the ability to talk in chat and unbans the toxic people and drops them on some sort of probationary setting that monitors their afk/feeding habits, and if they do some feeding them reban them.

I personally very rarely use the chat system, I find it to be a waste of time. I usually just type short generic things to get my point across quickly. Things like, "GG" "Baron" "Dragon" "All Mid/Top/Bottom" The chat system is not needed for any reason other than to encourage issues between players. It is un-needed and I believe unwanted by at least a portion of the community for this game. Sorry to tell you riot, Chat systems+PVP equals is the equivalent of putting a lit zippo directly next to a very thin container that holds a large amount of gasoline, eventually the fire will burn through the material and explode and when it does your just replacing and refilling the container with your feeble attempts to band-aid the problem of toxicity in your game.

TL;DR. Toxicity isn't the problem. Ability to talk to allies and enemies via chat is. Perma-banning players accounts is a band-aid that quickly falls off when the banned player makes a new account and continues their behavior.

Give the post updoots if you agree. I'd like riot to at least look at this. Maybe get some red thoughts.

Edit. 8:39 PM Same Day. Please let me know if you disagree or agree. Bump it if you do. I really think riot needs a more permanent solution to the problem.

12 Comments

Kei1435/14/2017, 1:16:59 AM4 votes

and I was wondering what ground breaking solution you'd come up with.

Couple of years back, Riot had "perma-chat restrictions", what they found out was that when the toxics lost the ability to chat, many of them resulted to gameplay toxicity (aka inting / trolling) instead.

While a nice idea, it'll probably require something different to reduce toxicity.

Lemuri5/14/2017, 1:51:05 AM2 votes

{quoted} Nobody is hacking your Dirt 5 account with no runes and 7 skins. Shut up. SO being as they always come back I propose a permanent solution in which all your special snowflakes on the rift can play and the not so special snowflakes can too. Permanent chat restriction. Not the limited chat. A new you don't have the right to speak chat restriction.

BLLAAAARRGGHAHHAHAAHhahaha ...... i love it... The parentheses ... It's funny cause i was thinking about posting a thread asking if i should simply remove my chat window or not. Seriously , for in-game , nothing good ever come out of this window beside few rare nice players. I wasn't sure cause at the same time i always thought to myself i didn't want to screw my team chances by cutting comms but in the end .... more i play more i realize that everything is happening through pinging. For my close friends we use Discord. I think it's decided ... off with the grimm window. Great post , great idea. My name is Lemuri and i agree with this solution. XD I'm only here since half a year and it's already pretty obvious this game always been or mostly always been infected with toxicity but its sad cause it is such a grandiose game altogether.

BigNasty30015/15/2017, 1:13:00 AM2 votes

The biggest problem with this is the people here are convinced that some people are "toxic people," that they don't want playing the game. This goes against Lyte's philosophy, and anyone with real life experience knows it isn't true as well. As you have already seen, these boards are filled with this faulty logic, as the term toxic is used purposely, meaning that it will spread to otherwise non-ragey players.

The fact that other games have less punishment, and less toxicity, also falls on deaf ears. It's like a cult, these people are brainwashed into thinking they can get rid of the "bad ppl," and then they will enjoy their game. It's ridiculous. Some think this due to immaturity, that I can forgive, but some of these people are well into adulthood and they still think in binary terms. The human psyche is far from binary.

I agree with your solution. I would welcome perma chat bans. I don't need to feel a false sense of justice through someone getting banned. Just make it so they can't chat and be done with it. Problem solved.

Awhegark5/14/2017, 1:00:01 AM1 votes

They want to add the ability to talk via mic.

KORGtuners5/14/2017, 4:36:17 AM1 votes

Been here for years. Current vibe is player behavior department is at the bottom of an endless list.