Why does my suspension feel so one sided?

bravesoul·1/16/2016, 11:03:43 AM·2 votes·1,018 views
bravesoul, your League of Legends account has been suspended

I understand that I lose my temper with this game. I also understand that I should not encourage people to off themselves and make empty threats to hunt them down, etc. What I don't understand, is why do the people who go into game on tilt, intentionally trying to provoke anyone who makes a mistake, go unpunished for initiating the disrespectful behavior? Moreover, why doesn't their toxic behavior count against them when I respond accordingly with wishful thinking of the other player committing suicide or the like? I am only toxic to people who have cast the first stone, never by default. In other words, I am only toxic to those players who are initially toxic to me. I feel that the best way to help another player understand the way that their comments are perceived is to give them a taste of their own medicine. If they are willing to be rude off-the-bat, for no apparent reason, why the heck is it not ok to treat them the way they are treating others? And more importantly, why isn't it acceptable in Riot's eyes to treat them this way? They treat everyone else like this. Who cares if they are sad and they actually do something stupid. You wouldn't treat a criminal the same way you treat a civilian, so why is my method unacceptable? I feel, that me giving them a taste of their own medicine is not unjust, nor is it uncalled for. That player DESERVES to be belittled and ridiculed if they are treating others in a similar manner for no reason. Think of it this way: If you're on the playground and a bully comes up and shoves you into the mud, what are you going to do about it? Are you going to politely ask him to stop harassing you? Or are you going to knock his lights out because he deserves it? Which method do you think is more effective? I certainly think an eye for and eye is completely acceptable, and If two players want to verbally duke it out (I think we can all agree that if you can't take an insult, don't issue one in the first place) without any moderation or intervention from Riot. Like a hockey fight. Players are using the tactic of intentionally provoking another player simply so they garner a response (usually a negative one) and use the all chat feature as a means to punish the player THEY INITIALLY ATTACKED by means of a virtual popularity contest to suspend the other players, regardless of attacker's own verbal toxicity. Its bullshit that Riot is more concerned with who ends the fight rather than who started it, because I sure as hell don't take any shit from anyone, real life or on the internet. If you're disrespectful to me, guess what's coming your way? Just because someone gets their feelings hurt, doesn't mean that nothing they have said, or none of their behavior is wrong. Riot, you need to look more at the reasons that the fights start, rather than the person who is man enough to finish them. Most of the time after I threaten another player, their toxic behaviors cease, and their comments are fewer and farther between. It makes no sense that you are attacking the after effects of the initial problem rather than the root of the issue itself. If a dude comes into the bar and starts trash talking you, you're going to beat the hell out of him. In which case, the person who started it, is nearly always kicked out, and the guy who finished it is revered and welcomed. Why doesn't riot endorse this? It is usually not the case where toxicity is completely one-sided and totally unwarranted. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so why aren't you guys more focused on the catalyst rather than the explosion? A barrel of gasoline is going to explode if you leave it out in the sun. So don't get mad at the barrel, take the sun out of the equation. In this particular instance, I made a mistake of warding too late during the initial part of the game when everyone is buying items and getting to lane. I got caught and gave up first blood, but Yi then took it upon himself to say "report morgana. Troll feeding". This player was complaining in pre-game chat lobby about long queues (nearly 40 minutes) and not banning Yi. He was bound to tilt himself, and yell at someone to belittle them. I merely think that if he wants to start a fight like that, then he better have the balls to finish it. I don't feel bad for saying the things I did, because I would never say them to a person who didn't disrespect me first. Respect is earned, not handed out. If your team is really going to punish me for my own version of virtual vigilante justice, then so be it. But If people like Yi were held accountable for starting this dispute, then I wouldn't be complaining here would I? This example is exactly like a minority getting in a fight with a white person. If the white person uses bigoted slurs, then the minority is going to beat the shit out of the white person. But then the white person wants protection from the wrath which they brought upon themselves? Pfffft That is a load of shit. If you can't deal with the results of the comments you make, then stay silent. I'm not saying I should go unpunished, buy Yi is just as guilty of toxicity as I am, and therefore needs to be punished as well.

21 Comments

LukeTheSheppy1/16/2016, 12:32:37 PM11 votes

By the by, here are OP's logs if you got distracted by the large wall of text. WARNING. QUITE POSSIBLE THE WORST SET OF CHAT LOGS YOU'LL SEE.

lol yi, go kill yourself in real life you little pussy do it yi you miserable little prick :D hey yi go kill yourself bro :D use a plastic spork seeing as you're a tilted little bitch, it suits you perfectly yyeah, so do it yi, stop playing and shoot your brains out lol go kill yourself yi :D no i want him dead people who flip out on me for no reason deserve to be hunted down, stripped of their flesh, and prodded with electical wire you too ez ill find you both and ill make you regret ever crossing me nah i say what i please so ezreal, you know whats funny as long as the client is open i have a direct connection to your ip address lol makes it more fun for me i dont need ddos lol yi you think you can judge becuase of what? lol you're such trash Im going to have fun ripping your body into ribbons nah you and yi deserve to lose toxic little bitch, tells me hes going to report cause hes stuck in fountain ill give you something to report for im going to see how many ways i can make you suffer before i kill you and your family off ribbons actually they can't read very well Yi says "reporting morg for intentionally feeding" lol i'll give him a reason to report nah i literally dont care about any of you especially %%%got yi i just like to intimidate people and practice being a sociopath i do what i want i've been acting like this for 5 years, riot doesn't give a fuck :P you know why? because I sold morgana's design to them lol yeah see yi so fucking mentally challenged dont be, just be mad that your mom had sex with her brother while doing drugs and drinking

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1599475/nostalgia-critic-wtf-o.gif

I'm....honestly shocked this isn't perma.

Moonlytee1/16/2016, 11:54:13 AM8 votes

_Okay, after a few minutes of reading and struggling to do so, I have finished reading this disaster. _

TL;DR OP Believes that because his team also verbally attacked him that it is "one sided" and "unfair" that he be the only one banned. Within his provided link, there are numerous threats that he would hunt down his ally(s) via IP address and butcher/slaughter them and their entire family in cold blood, due to his allies performing poorly.

I have read quite a few abusive things on the Tribunal and in games, and I have been the target of such abuse in the past, sir I believe a 'Ban' is the best case scenario. I mean lets be honest, you're lucky you're not facing jail-time.

...Unbeleivable, and I thought telling someone to uninstall was harsh... Jeeze..

BeatzBoyFTW1/16/2016, 11:30:45 AM6 votes
  1. I am not reading this block of text if you refuse to paragraph them.

  2. The fact that you're already being toxic on the 2nd line of chat & continued to curse on Yi for no reason, just shows that you deserved the ban so much. Probably enough for us to hope for you to reach a permaban.

disregardable1/16/2016, 11:09:20 AM5 votes

Quite the wall of text you got there.

Sarutobi1/16/2016, 11:26:42 AM4 votes

Like people have said time and time again Riot's stance on Retaliation is that it doesn't solve anything. You can only use the excuse that they started it first only so much. Hell in my opinion that stops being a valid excuse once you are out of early elementary school. It's such a childish excuse. You aren't the person who is in charge of "punishing" them by being toxic towards them. All you need to do is report them after the game. Mute them in game if they are acting up. Sadly currently we don't have anything to combat trolls while in game. So it's sadly going to cost you games, but the main point is just report them. What exactly do you think will help the cause of being toxic back at them? They'll just use that against you and is the reason as to why you were punished. You took their bait and because they know how the system works they used it against you because toxic behavior is easier and faster to punish than trolls.

Zero Shingetsu1/16/2016, 11:27:44 AM3 votes

Needs paragraphs. But based on the title alone, my answer is this:

Bad luck. That's often the reason for bans in League. We've all seen TONS of people with horrible personalities trash both teams and slip through unbanned, over and over again. Then the guy who loses his temper a couple times and acts out of character gets banned. Honestly, I can only assume it's a case of bad luck.

alasarcher1/16/2016, 1:13:09 PM3 votes

I read part about bars, and u are wrong. If 2 people are making ruckus in a bar, they both get kicked. It doesnt matter who started.

Mystery Ghost1/16/2016, 11:10:38 AM2 votes

how is anyone going to read this

BeatzBoyFTW1/16/2016, 12:57:40 PM2 votes

I saw the updates, and realized that you commented me twice, and both of them were deleted by Riot.

Judging from this, you're doing nothing but proved more of why you seriously deserved your ban. Please respond as a mature individual if you expect positive criticism.