perma banned for talking back to a toxic player

fcAOCfFFQq·1/18/2016, 7:00:04 PM·3 votes·1,182 views

I find it absolutely ridiculous that i was perma banned for a toxic thresh talking mad shit and i am not allowed to say anything back??? thats fucking ridiculous. ONE GAME, ONE and im perma banned? lmfao.

14 Comments

Anomander1/18/2016, 8:05:19 PM5 votes

Mute. Report. Move on. Retaliation is never needed in a video game.

Samus721/18/2016, 7:01:27 PM5 votes

I'm starting think we have one person out there logging in with all their alternate accounts and filling the forums with nonsense.

Zombiemaster1/18/2016, 7:11:05 PM3 votes

Punishments are given out in this order:

1.) 10 game chat restriction 2.) 25 game chat restriction 3.) 14 day ban 4.) Permanent ban

The way it works is once you receive one punishment, your next offense will give you the next highest punishment, regardless of how "minor" the offense may be. Now, it is possible to be escalated straight to a 14 day or permanent ban without any prior punishments, but Riot really only does this if they deem your case severe enough.

Knowing this, unless you were exhibiting very extreme toxic behavior in that one game, you WERE NOT permanently banned for just that one game. You were permanently banned because you received the other 3 punishments, which serve as warnings that your behavior is unacceptable, but you continued on with the behavior that got you those punishments. You essentially showed Riot that you have no intention of improving your behavior, so they decided that they no longer want you in their game anymore and permanently banned your account.

If you truly believe that this punishment is unwarranted, you can choose to post your chat logs to see what the community thinks about them. We could help give some clarity as to what lead to your punishment.

Also, something to keep in mind, the whole "he was doing it first" argument does not work. It doesn't matter what other players are doing, if you choose to retaliate back with your own toxic behavior, you will be punished.

Hunts and Dips1/18/2016, 7:58:18 PM1 votes

If I had a dollar for every betsy that got banned for this, I would be one rich jerry.

StankyDank1/18/2016, 7:00:37 PM1 votes

there is no way you were toxic one game and they permabanned you

Zielmann1/18/2016, 7:10:50 PM1 votes

What is responding to a toxic player going to accomplish? Defending yourself against some random person on the internet that you'll likely never see in game again? What's the point? Be the bigger person and just mute them when they start being toxic. Then you can report them after the game, and they'll be the ones here complaining about a ban, and you might still have your account.

ModPrandine1/18/2016, 7:11:55 PM1 votes

First off, you aren't punished for just one game unless it's severe enough to warrant such a punishment. In order to get punished, you have to be valid reported in ~15% of your games. It also takes 3 months of genuine reform effort to drop down 1 punishment tier.

As for your other point Riot has repeatedly stated that retaliation is never okay. From Understanding the Tribunal:

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.

From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:

“I want to complain about my ban, but I didn’t link my Reform Card.”

We get a lot of that here and, sadly, you’re not likely to get much in the way of sympathy or help until you post the Card. We need the context and we need to know that we’re getting the whole story. Don’t take it personally, just post the Card.