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"You are ineligible to earn rewards due to previous behavior"

Black Jesus lV··5 votes·1,691 views
Hextech Crafting and Loot Q&A

Well, it's been a whole month now since Hextech crafting has come out and I haven't seen anything different. I have deliberately removed my chat from my in-game screen, I don't type unless it is helpful as in MIA'S etc.

I haven't been reported or received a suspension since i got that first message: "You are ineligible to earn rewards due to previous behavior." So please, tell me what it takes to get off of this list. Like I truly don't understand... I've shaped up.

If i knew that I wouldn't receive rewards when Hextech crafting was coming out before hand then I honestly wouldn't have said the things i've said. Please Riot. What do I need to do? I've spent 450$ on RP, and it finally comes time to earn things for free you take it away. I had one bad day and got severely punished. I've learned my lesson.

I've only been punished once by the Tribunal for 3 games of toxicity all in the same day. It was just a bad day, but I truly feel like I've learned my lesson. Because i'm a daily player and I got banned for 14 days, it truly was the longest 14 days of my life.

If you disagree with this, you have no reason to. I'm simply asking for information, because i'm deeply lost. I have no idea what to do at this point, and it really is stressful seeing myself get S's and having my friends get rewards while in a call with me. Worst of all, seeing the words "You are ineligible to earn rewards due to previous behavior."

I can honestly feel, the toxic players who are devoted to this game. They just want to win, and it's uncalled for what they do/say. but truly some games are just UN-achievable. Some people now are toxic more than ever because they're so salty about not earning rewards.

Please, some help? Can i get some information or a way to contact a Rioter? Or shed some light on what I can do better? I truly don't even talk in games anymore. It's really hurting and makes me think differently of Riot every time they say "everybody has those days". I support Riot, but this is just unfair and makes me want to just lash out, going back to my old self. But I refrain, thinking maybe sometime I will receive my rewards? Please, what do I need to do... I don't even talk anymore in games. I've taken out my stress on other games like MMORPG's where i can truly express my anger etc. It happens to the best of us. But please I just want to know what it takes.

34 Comments

Goatee Gaming2 votes

Reading this you sound like a child after your parent says, "Well I was going to do this, but then you acted that way and now I'm not."

You shouldn't hide your chat because people communicate with you as well so how are they supposed to communicate things that can't with pings, such as no summoners or an ult on cooldown? You don't sound like you've learned anything because I guarantee you put that chat box back, you'll get another ban.

redniwediS1 votes

Positioning and pings are really all you need, according to Riot. They say this from time to time when asked about communicating with your team when the mute button exists.

Goatee Gaming1 votes

I mean if you're in a 5 man yeah and if they're basing that statement off of the LCS where the players are talking to each other constantly, but personally I get frustrated (internally, never toward others) when people don't just type in chat. Guess that's just me.

redniwediS1 votes

If I'm playing a role I'm comfortable with I'll gladly type, and perhaps even hold a conversation in chat. If I'm not then I'll try to stick to pings, since I can't really afford the distraction. I'll still read chat though, I'll just rely on pings to get anything I have to say across.

Still, learning to read body language is a very important skill to learn. Even if your team is talkative and remembers to use their pings you can learn volumes from the enemy team with it. It would be nice if a small set of advanced tutorials could be added to the game to help new players learn it and other things, but oh well.

Black Jesus lV2 votes

Fact is, i generally play better without the chat, you claim to know about communication yet you aren't even in ranked but have the feels to post on someones plea for at least information. I turned off the chat ALSO because people get reported for no reason. You can get reported for saying something as small as "you suck". So the general idea was to just avoid getting reported all together so that way I wont be subject to receiving a longer punishment. But thanks for your input, you are clearly the child.

Goatee Gaming1 votes

So because I'm not in ranked and you don't agree with my opinion, I'm a child? Sound logic.

Perfect analysis from someone who cries because he can't be civilized toward others.

NastyboyAndy2 votes

Normal players don't communicate haha, i barely play the game and i know that. All they do is troll stuff. I think that's his point. Also, he was asking for advice and information. Black Jesus LV wasn't crying in any form. You saying he was a child/crying means you're the child when he asked for information and advice. That's very adult-like characteristics to me, it wasn't a demand. Child.

Black Jesus lV1 votes

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Normal players don't communicate haha, i barely play the game and i know that. All they do is troll stuff. I think that's his point. Also, he was asking for advice and information. Black Jesus LV wasn't crying in any form. You saying he was a child/crying means you're the child when he asked for information and advice. That's very adult-like characteristics to me, it wasn't a demand. Child.

PRETTY MUCH MAGNESIAC. at least learn what ranked is like. I understand you don't want to end up with a bronze title. But you should really get placed and then try your methods of communication. Nuff said, kid

Sarutobi2 votes

I can somewhat understand why they won't show it at least for the time being. It really shouldn't be a "oh so this is how long I have to be nice to people in order to get rewards" because it's pretty obvious that most people will just be toxic once they get their reward then when they do get punished just wait it out with the amount of games/days it takes to get the rewards again.

Lothàrs Edge2 votes

But that's how it is with any reward system based on "good" behavior.

Black Jesus lV1 votes

I can see how that makes sense. However

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Feels, my friends don't even support Riot anymore. It's a shame, because time to time I still buy skins. but knowing that they can't receive free skins. Whenever they get S ranks i get a free chest and they don't lol. Thanks friends. But i dont think they'll be playing much anymore.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Things like this depict that it just wasn't an amazing thing for the game because it sounds like it can cause players to be more toxic knowing that they will never receive rewards than having a hope that it is still possible for them to receive rewards. My statement above was just asking a question AS TO, what I need to do to get off the list. When daily, more and more players are reported for the dumbest things. Just on the Victorious gaming website I saw that a person got muted for saying "Anivia skins" and nothing else. TRULY. facebook.com/Victoriousgaming if it's acceptable to get banned over that, then what is correct behavior? Is the tribunal corrupt? Answers please. A time frame, a Tribunal casing, showing who viewed and and MAYBE a REPEAL button. much like Runescapes ban/mute system to repeal them if they were falsified. Because it truly is disgusting. I can give you a word for word, how I got banned for the 14 days, the worst "You are a F***n idiot". I remember it so perfect because I remember laughing at it IRL.

Th3Legacy2 votes

more like months, got restricted once and 6 weeks, 50 games in with no reform

redniwediS1 votes

It takes different amount of time depending on how high up the punishment list you were.

14 day bans are literally one from the top, so you have a significant amount of time to wait. It sounds like you're on the right path though, so just keep at it and you'll have access to hextech stuff in no time.

You're not really missing much though. Getting chests and keys without paying money is an incredibly slow process, even with a premade.

disregardable1 votes

Riot never said that it depends o how high up the punishment list you are. It depends on your account's standing, which is more ambiguous.

redniwediS1 votes

It's my understanding that the reform system does take into how severe your punishment was into account when deciding how much time is necessary when reforming, even with positive behavior.

I could be remembering incorrectly, but I believe I've seen arbiters say something along these lines.

disregardable1 votes

Riot NeuroCat On Reddit:

We're working on putting out a better explanation for this. For players that are punished by the Instant Feedback system and work off the punishment, they will still be restricted from earning Hextech chests or keys for a period while the system ensures that they have reformed their behavior. There is no fixed interval here - if you continue to play with sportsmanlike behavior, you'll eventually get back into good standing. We're looking into making a player's status more clear/visible to help avoid this kind of confusion.

That's the only Riot response we've had. There's no fixed interval of time, and it doesn't say anything about scaling with the punishment system.

redniwediS1 votes

None of that actually goes against what I said. All I said is it takes the punishment level into account, not that the punishment level dictates how long it will be.

disregardable1 votes

That's what you implied, and we have no proof that it takes it into account at all. He didn't say that. There's no proof that having a 14 day ban means he has to wait more time.

redniwediS1 votes

I implied nothing of the sort. I've already said I could be wrong, so unless you actually want something useful from me we're done here. I don't want to argue, I was just trying to be helpful.

disregardable1 votes

You told him something that isn't true, I obviously want you to edit it out of your post or delete it.

redniwediS1 votes

Then prove to me it is wrong first. All you've done is quote something that doesn't really impact what I said one way or the other.

No fixed interval simply means there is no static list of times you have to wait. It takes a number of variables into account when deciding how long it will be until you are reformed, including current behavior.

If you find something that specifically says your punishment tier is not one of the variables factored into the reformation process please post it. I want to know if I'm incorrect. As I said I'm working off memory here, but I do not believe I'm wrong.

disregardable1 votes

Yes, because as long as Riot never says they're not deleting Fizz next year, that totally means that they are right? Keep spreading misinformation then, it's really helpful.

redniwediS1 votes

I was just going to ignore this, because it's clearly a dead end conversation, but oh well.

You have no claim to call what I said misinformation. I'm working off memory, just as you clearly are. You can't simply ask someone to redact a statement because you think they are wrong, you have to provide some sort of evidence.

This is nothing like your Fizz example. I remember seeing an arbiter say this, and so I feel confident in repeating it. I don't know what you're basing your point of view off of, but in any case there is no need to be so hostile.

You're acting like I'm completely ignoring evidence that directly counters what I said, when in truth no evidence has been presented. Please don't tell me you think that quote from Neurocat actually proves what I said to be wrong...

disregardable1 votes

The claim to misinformation is that there's no proof that what you're saying is true. Unless you want to prove otherwise.

You're telling people things that are just going to have to be corrected later, possibly after he's already told someone else the misinformation. It's a chain of problems that can be easily prevented, and it's annoying that you refuse to do so.

Also, I'm not really sure why you're saying I'm working off memory when I linked solid information.

redniwediS1 votes

"Solid information" that doesn't actually disprove anything I said. I don't know how you keep missing that.

Unless we're just going to force everyone to link a source every time they say anything memory is still usable when it comes to every day stuff like this.

disregardable1 votes

Yes, stuff from memory works when I can just google the source you won't look up yourself. The problem occurs when what you're "quoting" isn't true and there's no source for it. Then it's just misinformation.

redniwediS1 votes

I wouldn't call being unwilling to sift through all arbiter posts until I find what I'm looking for too lazy, since there is no way to sort those posts on the boards.

Still, if what I said is not true we would have a source saying otherwise. As I said before if anyone finds something that proves punishment tier is not one of the variables taken into account to decide how long reformation will take I will gladly remove what I said. Until then your claim of misinformation is unfounded.

disregardable1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/unobngtr-how-player-behavior-penalties-affect-hextech-crafting

NOW we have a source saying so. Saying it before you had a source was still irresponsible.

redniwediS1 votes

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http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/unobngtr-how-player-behavior-penalties-affect-hextech-crafting

NOW we have a source saying so. Saying it before you had a source was still irresponsible.

Are you kidding me... I guess you're just going to ignore the fact that I remember reading this from an arbiter before. Arbiters can't possibly know what's going on before a Rioter posts it, right?

It's not irresponsible to use your own memory when trying to help a fellow player. You're just being an asshole.

themachamp1 votes

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Riot NeuroCat On Reddit:

That's the only Riot response we've had. There's no fixed interval of time, and it doesn't say anything about scaling with the punishment system.

I bet they have backed out of it like they have for solo Q. Keep saying one thing...let enough time pass.....then just drop it.

ImTheRealGnar1 votes

You're not going to get it for a while man. I had 10 games of chat restriction 4 months ago and so far I'm ineligible to receive rewards.

NastyboyAndy1 votes

Feels, my friends don't even support Riot anymore. It's a shame, because time to time I still buy skins. but knowing that they can't receive free skins. Whenever they get S ranks i get a free chest and they don't lol. Thanks friends. But i dont think they'll be playing much anymore.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

o brigid o1 votes

It just takes time. Stop worrying about it and just play and continue to be a good member of the community. Eventually, whenever you are eligible to receive rewards, it will be a pleasant surprise. Until then... nothing has changed since before hextech crafting started. The game is the same. You still get IP and champion mastery points like normal. Nothing is stopping you from enjoying the game. You'll get freebies when Riot gives you freebies :)

You want to know what it take?

It takes time.

themachamp1 votes

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Well, it's been a whole month now since Hextech crafting has come out and I haven't seen anything different. I have deliberately removed my chat from my in-game screen, I don't type unless it is helpful as in MIA'S etc.

Same, my lock out has not gone away and riot support...even the behavioral "specialists" are completely useless in acquiring information. The only thing they ever said was it takes a mix of time passed and games played. Tbh with you......I dont even think they have a system in place to spot reformed players. For all we know they just run a RNG program that selects 10 people at random to be deemed reformed and get loot....just so they can say that it is working. ><

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