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Where's the line between trash talk and tox in /all chat?

Karunamon·1/5/2018, 7:51:07 PM·1 votes·767 views

I had a very interesting game last night. Normal draft, picked Anivia into Veigar midlane. If you know nothing about Anivia, you have to know that once she can get her mana flow cranked up, she turns into a waveclear machine. At higher levels of her ult, you can delete an entire minion wave in just a few seconds (as well as create a pretty big zone where no carry wants to tread).

I bring this up because CSing is what apparently put my angry yordle opponent on maximum overtilt. I was within about 10CS of him most of the game, even died twice to a gank and mispositioning, but around level 6, I started clearing waves like crazy. Overtook him by around 20-30, and then my jungler got him, thanks in part to a well-timed wall.

Veigar /all: "WTF U PUSSY CAMPING ME %%%"

Ohhhh dear. My face when:

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Anivia: Hey Warwick, start camping the hell out of this middle lane if you want free kills. This guy is mad and starting to make dumb mistakes Warwick: lol

Applying the principle of "tilted people play worse", I start gently poking the bear yordle.

Anivia /all: Hey now, it's okay little guy. You're close to me in CS and this is your first death. Relax. Veigar /all: STFU 0/2 NOOB %%%GOT Anivia: (who just got level 6) R+W+Q+E An enemy has been slain Anivia /all: Now I'm 1 and 2. And have more farm than you again. <3

Warwick catches him a couple more times when B. I respond with variations on "You should put down a ward down there and you'll stop getting caught out" or "you missed, little one" when I get out of his ult range.

What I didn't realize at this time is that he was apparently flaming his team behind the scenes. Not long after this exchange, 2 or 3 other people on the enemy team chime in with "Report veigar for tox" or some variation.

Anyways, we won the game hard. Between my chat, my play, and our jungler, this guy was tilted off the face of the planet and taking it out on his team.

On one hand, I feel kinda bad for subjecting his team to that.

On the other hand, I didn't harass him, belittle him, swear, use slurs, or do anything other than what could be described as mild smug passive-aggression. His mindset had to have a factor in his poor play in the mid to late game, and I took advantage of that.

Is it wrong to engage in this kind of /all trash talk, or is that too much?

9 Comments

SSJTribe1/5/2018, 8:36:12 PM2 votes

It's fine, really. In my opinion it isn't really necessary to chat to him (after all, he started flaming in all caps before you said anything at all to him). The WW play tilted him, he was already done. but again, that's just my opinion.

You're good as far as which words you used, just be careful not to take it too far.

Troll for Trump1/6/2018, 11:44:02 AM2 votes

Ok well, you're intent is to be a dick and provoke him into tilting and flaming.

Is being a dick ok?

The only reason he's being that toxic (and probably exceedinglyso) is because you're contributing to the tilt. Stop that.

sleepysithlord1/5/2018, 8:51:12 PM1 votes

i think non-harrassing chat talk is what the all/chat is there for. if that is too much for someone, they should turn it off lol. This is coming from someone who has all chat turned off though

Ninja Assassin1/6/2018, 1:10:17 AM1 votes

Honestly, any type of trash talk is fine imo, but if I were to make a distinction between condescending trash talk and angry trash talk, I dislike condescending players more. This is just my opinion, but honest trash talk is way less annoying that someone saying stuff that isn't genuine. It really pisses me off when someone tries to give me advice under the pretense of being nice or helping me out. I mean, its pretty obvious they are just trying to tilt me in a more subtle way. If you are going to talk shit at least be honest, but whatever, either way its just part of the game and dosn't really matter.

A Snarky Cyclone1/7/2018, 1:52:19 PM1 votes

There's a distinct difference between banter and toxicity. What you did was banter. Same way if an Anivia said that to me, I'd come up with some quip about clipping your wings or something. As long as their is no name calling, or direct insults, I see no problem with banter in all chat. Now if you were telling him "you're bad" or "you're a noob" or whatever, that's a bit of a different story.. that's more just provocative and meh and doesn't really add much to anything other than dickery.