Reports Outside of Games? Match Rating?

Doctor Whomst··6 votes·1,078 views
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The screenshot(s) provided are toxicity from the same person being taken out on two different people, whose identities I've all censored out. The idea before this topic came from a toxic player following others outside of the end game lobby. Naturally, one wouldn't want to add the toxic player that's just given them a hard time. So instead, toxic player A asks toxic player B to add friends X and Y, and proceed to down-talk them in his place despite B never having previously interacted with these normal players. Toxic player B just added these two, harassed them, and left. I don't, however, think Toxic Player B is worth reporting simply because he was under the influence of his friend who just got out of a game of going completely silent and then flaming everybody at once. Was it bad to do? Yes. Though, I don't think Toxic Player B would've ever been so needlessly mean without Toxic Player A telling him what to do. Toxic Player A was a bad influence in and after the game

#How Should Toxic Players Like This Be Handled?

It's disappointing that the toxic players in question could harass others and get away with it, and so could others just as easily. The best thing you and anyone else could do, in my opinion, is to kill them with kindness :) Don't stoop to their level! They'll give up eventually, just don't give them past a one word response if you possibly can. Send in a Riot Support ticket and hope for the best

#Why Use a Report System Over Blocking?

Because if someone really goes out of their way so much like this to harass a player, odds are, they're no better towards team mates and other players in a team oriented game. The last thing I want is one tilted and toxic person playing a marathon and ruining other peoples' games while I can't do anything but send in a ticket.

#What Might Be a Healthier Alternative to Reporting Out of Games?

A healthier alternative to reporting players and creating a more hostile environment might be as simple as a personal player rating system. Pros:

  • It brings about more incentive to be a better team player
  • Player ratings would leave toxic players to reflect on their behavior if they're stuck with people just as bad as them all the time
  • Potential replacement for the honor system. Temporary banners for players who maintain high ratings from enemies and allies for a month+ would feel more rewarding than having 500 honors of both in a year and nothing to show for it

Cons:

  • What if my friends have a lower/higher rating than me?
  • Players with lower average ratings would be more inclined to quit rather than improve
  • Players who are queued together would have to give lower rating values, whether the other player was particularly good or bad, to avoid players banding against another

#Conclusion

Toxic players exist outside of the end game lobby- this is a known fact. There should be a more efficient way to deal with them that isn't as frustrating as waiting for riot support to step in, which may or may not lead to the desired outcome. What are your thoughts?

6 Comments

videorfeak1 votes
  1. You can already submit complaints in support tickets and Riot will look into the matter (make sure to send screenshots)
  2. Albeit a cood idea, everyone's first reaction will be "But couldn't people troll and give everyone bad ratings, and couldn't a group of toxic players all give each other good ratings"
Doctor Whomst1 votes

"Players who are queued together would have to give lower rating values, whether the other player was particularly good or bad, to avoid players banding against another"

That's why group ratings would be worth less. Besides, if someone's flaming you the whole time and you're flaming back, what are the chances you're gonna agree to give each other good ratings just to boost their rating? It's also similar to how current honoring works- for the few people out there who still use it. If your friends honor you, or if you're honored by a player who honors others frequently, it's worth less towards your honor badge.

"You can already submit complaints in support tickets and Riot will look into the matter (make sure to send screenshots)"

You can send screenshots, yeah, but you have to send ticket after ticket to finally get a human response rather than a predetermined response. They really shine when a certain case makes it to the front of a reddit thread- that's when they actually stop giving automated responses and start giving real feedback since they're under the pressure of so many people seeing a particular case.

Papa Andrei1 votes

THe personal player rating this is basically the Honor system. It seems like a great idea, buuuuut then it just falls on the wayside because people forget bout it

Doctor Whomst1 votes

If it personally affects the people that a player has to sit in a match with, people would probably be a bit more motivated to promote sportsmanlike players, and downvote the toxic ones. The way that the personal player rating system would work is that players with a lesser average score out of so many points would have to play with other people who act just as bad as they do, more or less. It's not like it has to be a drastic change in the people one plays with- it can be marginal but still have just as much of an effect. At least, for a while. Surely, I'd much rather vote up players with good sportsmanship more often knowing that the value of my personal rating of that player would only ever depreciate if I'm in a queue with other players to prevent a singular player from being grouped up on.

grug1 votes

i'd probably permaban a player like that for being so petty that he has to add someone post game to talk shit.

Doctor Whomst1 votes

And the sad part is that it wasn't even he who was involved. This was a total stranger being negatively influenced by a(another) toxic player because we all ignored him. Yes, we could've blocked him, but who's to say he won't just do it again to other people? With how reports are currently set up, I would have to send in a ticket and wait a month, or just ignore it and forget it altogether. However, this is an issue that needs a more efficient solution.

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