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how the fuck does any of this justify a perm ban?

Legaią·2/8/2020, 5:33:35 PM·5 votes·2,666 views

What the fuck is the point of reforming when Riot is just going to ban people for nothing?

Legaią: thanks g Legaią: ok Legaią: i cant move Legaią: I WAS Legaią: cant do much when im cced Legaią: k Legaią: i mean i can leave if you want Legaią: i can let you 4v5 idc Legaią: im fine tbh Legaią: camille just needse to learn her place Legaią: 4 mid Legaią: dam minion block Legaią: keeo voli top Legaią: jk lol Legaią: how the fuck did i miss Legaią: thats soul Legaią: we can baron Legaią: it happens Legaią: b then dragon Legaią: sylas stop plz Legaią: XD Legaią: that cost us elder Legaią: thank god Legaią: i was killing a ward and senna hit a luck stun i wasnt 4v5 anything Legaią: dont type to me Legaią: ever Legaią: naut Legaią: i only have one ult Legaią: 40 fucking minutes when it should already be won Legaią: dont b Legaią: help Legaią: ward it Legaią: sylas y r u bot Legaią: waiting for team to stop farming Legaią: not my fault Legaią: you all threw the game so fucking hard when i spoon fed this shit to you Legaią: its not my fault at all Legaią: you all were farming Legaią: i was witing for baron Legaią: i made the right call Legaią: your fault not mine Legaią: muting all Legaią: if we lose ur fault

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5 Dollar Holler2/8/2020, 5:35:40 PM6 votes

This doesn't feel like the full transcript, although "Legaią: you all threw the game so fucking hard when i spoon fed this shit to you" is enough for punishment.

And if you got perma banned for toxicity, that means you have a history of repeat offenses all within a pretty short timeframe.

GatekeeperTDS2/8/2020, 6:01:13 PM6 votes

Legaią: camille just needse to learn her place

Remember a few things. We all need to keep these things in mind.

1.) You are not in charge of anyone but yourself. 2.) You are not as good as you think you are - we all have room to improve. Flaming people does not make them improve. Do you like being flamed and insulted? 3.) If you've been punished multiple times, then you've proven an inability to reform and reached the final punishment level.

If you start a new account, keep these things in mind.

Umbral Regent2/8/2020, 5:39:43 PM6 votes

What the fuck is the point of reforming when Riot is just going to ban people for nothing?

Legaią: i mean i can leave if you want Legaią: i can let you 4v5 idc Legaią: im fine tbh Legaią: camille just needse to learn her place

Legaią: i was killing a ward and senna hit a luck stun i wasnt 4v5 anything Legaią: dont type to me Legaią: ever Legaią: naut Legaią: i only have one ult Legaią: 40 fucking minutes when it should already be won

Legaią: sylas y r u bot Legaią: waiting for team to stop farming Legaią: not my fault Legaią: you all threw the game so fucking hard when i spoon fed this shit to you Legaią: its not my fault at all Legaią: you all were farming Legaią: i was witing for baron Legaią: i made the right call Legaią: your fault not mine Legaią: muting all Legaią: if we lose ur fault

This wasn't "nothing". You threatened to leave the match and force your team to 4v5, and spent the rest of the game arguing and pinning the blame on everyone else for the loss. Much of the above chat is inflammatory and detracts from the game, and if this is how you behaved after a 14-day ban, which came with the explicit warning that any further misbehavior will result in a permanent ban, then yeah, this justifies a permanent ban.

You were told to stop misbehaving or else you'd be permanently banned. You continued misbehaving, so it should come as no surprise that you get permanently banned for ignoring Riot's warning.

Kei1432/8/2020, 8:48:16 PM6 votes

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What the fuck is the point of reforming

So Riot stops banning you.

You might think you've reformed, but this performance is not good enough, especially after your 14-day ban.

fatherdarius2/8/2020, 5:48:11 PM4 votes

Legaią: thanks g Legaią: ok Legaią: i cant move Legaią: I WAS Legaią: cant do much when im cced

I feel like the above is fine.

Legaią: k Legaią: i mean i can leave if you want Legaią: i can let you 4v5 idc

Some may think this is a threat, but i've had that exact conversation when 4 of my team took herald but they wanted be pushing a lane. "ok, i'll go push lane but you'll be 4v5" I don't know if that's how you meant it but overall this is NBD.

Legaią: im fine tbh Legaią: camille just needse to learn her place

If you meant her place in team fights (i.e. positioning, etc) I feel like it's fine. If you meant 'learn your place, bitch' then you're being a jerk.

Legaią: 4 mid Legaią: dam minion block Legaią: keeo voli top Legaią: jk lol Legaią: how the fuck did i miss Legaią: thats soul Legaią: we can baron Legaią: it happens Legaią: b then dragon Legaią: sylas stop plz Legaią: XD Legaią: that cost us elder

I feel like the above is also fine. You chat a lot, and i can sense your frustration. But that isn't necessarily good or bad.

Legaią: thank god Legaią: i was killing a ward and senna hit a luck stun i wasnt 4v5 anything

I'm guessing someone was calling out what they considered a bad play? I dunno

Legaią: dont type to me Legaią: ever

This was unnecessary. If you don't want to see someone's chat, just mute them. I sense the beginning of negativity.

Legaią: naut Legaią: i only have one ult Legaią: 40 fucking minutes when it should already be won

Can't tell if you're calling out the team or just complaining about a long game, LOL. But - if I can't tell, your teammates probably can't either.

Legaią: dont b Legaią: help Legaią: ward it Legaią: sylas y r u bot

No need to insult sylas.

Legaią: waiting for team to stop farming Legaią: not my fault Legaią: you all threw the game so fucking hard when i spoon fed this shit to you

Aaaaaaaaaaand.... there's the negativity. Blaming others for the loss, bitching at your team, etc.

Legaią: its not my fault at all Legaią: you all were farming Legaią: i was witing for baron Legaią: i made the right call Legaią: your fault not mine

Because the other 4 players on your team made the 'wrong' call but you made the right call naturally. Even if true, there's no need to play the blame game. It obviously didn't help the situation.

Legaią: muting all Legaią: if we lose ur fault

Yeah, that's not helpful.

If the tribunal were still active, I'd vote to 'punish'. That punishment could be a 10 or 25 game chat restriction, a suspension, or a permanent ban depending on your prior punishment history. If your last sanction was a 14 day suspension, then unfortunately the next step is a permaban and the punishment is correct.

shh im hiddens k2/8/2020, 7:21:28 PM3 votes

Meme autocracy --- don't talk to people in league, just mute all. Yeah it's probably worse but it's what most people do to keep their accounts (how sad)

If you're what I or most would consider a normal, hardcore gamer you simply cannot use the chat.

League is quite obviously home to a very casual base and they will instead of debating or having a convo with you mid game just report you like a child and run It down their lane, FYI.

New account. Mute all. Never unmute.

Would it be nice to be able to freely use the chatroom like any game ever created? Yeah. Could you just ignore the keyboard warriors? Yeah. In fact you can now. Strange right?

But apparently we can't have that. They should just remove txt so we don't have to feel bad about not communicating with teammates and give us quick txt emote like responses if they're really so concerned

Love Anastasia2/8/2020, 5:55:04 PM2 votes

Because League punishment system is trash xd

hyperion31822/8/2020, 5:46:40 PM2 votes

Some people reach permabans without being horribly vulgar or wishing horrible things to sisters. They are simply repeatedly negative and follow the protocol 10cr, 25cr, 14d, perma. The game you are displaying is not hardcore by itself but takes place after a 14d ban apparently, hence the permaban. If it was your very very first offense, maybe you would have only gotten 10 chat restrictions or nothing.

You got permabanned ban because you KEPT breaking rules, remember you didnt lose the account for one last incident only. Its an accumulation of negativity/toxicity. And reform cards are almost never exhaustive.

"i wasnt arguing with anyone.". That doesnt change the fact that you were negative and spammed useless comments for 1-9 players who dont have to witness that. You got reported by 1-9 people.

The rest of the chat is irrelevant because nobody forced you to flame in multiple games.

"Negative behavior is unacceptable regardless of the circumstances or who started it. It can be tempting to respond to negative players with negativity of your own. Our systems do not care who started the behavior and will treat each reported player based off the merits of their own case. The only way to handle these types of players is to mute them and continue playing the game followed by giving them a report at the end of the match."

"Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on."

Lùmen2/8/2020, 5:49:52 PM2 votes

just another immaculate display of the incredibly flawed Instant Feedback System. use chat and get banned. Contact Riot Support if you get a nice person to talk with there, they might consider reducing your perma to a 2 week ban. just be nice and play on their merciful side, any1 in Riot support can lift perma bans

Environmentalist2/8/2020, 5:53:02 PM1 votes

I actually agree with OP. The "toxicity" in this is non-existent. People argue. It's a competitive game. You're delusional if you think positivity or silence are the only two options. OP didn't explode on anyone. There's no outright hatred like racism, homophobic slurs, etc. 0/10 deserved.

Yin Yang Taoist2/9/2020, 1:38:29 PM1 votes

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What the fuck is the point of reforming when Riot is just going to ban people for nothing?

Legaią: thanks g Legaią: ok Legaią: i cant move Legaią: I WAS Legaią: cant do much when im cced Legaią: k Legaią: i mean i can leave if you want Legaią: i can let you 4v5 idc Legaią: im fine tbh Legaią: camille just needse to learn her place Legaią: 4 mid Legaią: dam minion block Legaią: keeo voli top Legaią: jk lol Legaią: how the fuck did i miss Legaią: thats soul Legaią: we can baron Legaią: it happens Legaią: b then dragon Legaią: sylas stop plz Legaią: XD Legaią: that cost us elder Legaią: thank god Legaią: i was killing a ward and senna hit a luck stun i wasnt 4v5 anything Legaią: dont type to me Legaią: ever Legaią: naut Legaią: i only have one ult Legaią: 40 fucking minutes when it should already be won Legaią: dont b Legaią: help Legaią: ward it Legaią: sylas y r u bot Legaią: waiting for team to stop farming Legaią: not my fault Legaią: you all threw the game so fucking hard when i spoon fed this shit to you Legaią: its not my fault at all Legaią: you all were farming Legaią: i was witing for baron Legaią: i made the right call Legaią: your fault not mine Legaią: muting all Legaią: if we lose ur fault

Doesn't justify a perma. unless you were given a 10-game, 25- and then a 2-week suspension before. If you haven't then you can challenge this here. Good luck, OP!

Tele II2/11/2020, 6:31:13 AM1 votes

Use chat to blame everyone else and condescend to them with shit like asking if they are bots, and telling them you spoon fed them a win but theyre so bad they still cant win it, will usually result in punishment. I understand you probably weren't familiar with how strict Riot is about chat. Meh, now you know. Good luck in the future. Keep any petty arguing and insults out of chat and you'll be fine. You dont have to share every thought in your head with everyone. Sometimes you just keep those things inside. Remember, youre just an anonymous stranger to them. They dont actually care about what you have to say.